Shots fired on Michigan State University campus; police ask everyone to shelter in place

[Lursa]

You simply don't like my answer... what else is there to say about it?

Repeating it doesnt make it true.

 

[Chillfolks]

When a car changes hands it is registered with the State.

If we are to compare guns to cars... why cannot the same happen for firearms?

The people who you really want to register their guns can’t be forced to. It doesn’t seem that a registration does anything to prevent someone from killing another person.

 

[Jezcoe]

I do, as a taxpayer, esp. where you (nor anyone else) has proven that most people dont get training anyway.



That's what the justices said.

If we are too impose a barrier to entry then the State should pick up the cost.

Taking the stance of " I don't want my tax dollars" blah blah blah nonsense when it comes to gun safety is a little strange I must say.

 

[Lursa]

When a car changes hands it is registered with the State
If we are to compare guns to cars... why cannot the same happen for firearms?

OK, then we'll continue to go and use the gun/car comparisons...nice.

What crimes does registration stop? It does nothing regarding stolen guns.

 

[Jezcoe]

The people who you really want to register their guns can’t be forced to. It doesn’t seem that a registration does anything to prevent someone from killing another person.

Some people break the law... why have laws?

 

[Chillfolks]

Some people break the law... why have laws?

More like why have laws that can not be enforced on criminals.

 

[Lursa]

If we are too impose a barrier to entry then the State should pick up the cost.

Taking the stance of " I don't want my tax dollars" blah blah blah nonsense when it comes to gun safety is a little strange I must say.

My answers are the same...I shouldnt have to pay for something you cant even prove is needed. I'm not interested in your opinion on taxing for unnecessary things. Again, you have no idea and it has nothing to do with preventing the largest numbers of gun deaths: homicides and suicides.

 

[Jezcoe]

OK, then we'll continue to go and use the gun/car comparisons...nice.

What crimes does registration stop? It does nothing regarding stolen guns.

Studies have shown that States with licensing and registration requirements tend to have fewer of the guns sold in that State show up at crime scenes. The guns that show up are from States with much looser requirements.

So there is that.

 

[Lursa]

Some people break the law... why have laws?

Previously posted:

Robbing banks harms others, it takes property, it may harm individuals there. Robbery in general, murder, rape, battery, etc all do harm and no one has the right to do those things to others to begin with. No one does those things without doing that harm, so we create laws to punish those acts.

Legal gun owners are not doing anyone any harm by owning, carrying guns. It's wrong to create laws punishing (further restricting) us from doing something just because some people are afraid that "something might happen." We're not living in the Minority Report.

This is why it's not the same, including this from today:

Anyone with intent to do harm or commit crimes ignores such laws. They only place the law-abiding at a greater disadvantage...it makes the entire rest of the country a vulnerable 'gun free zone'. Which only the law-abiding respect.

 

[Jezcoe]

More like why have laws that can not be enforced on criminals.

Then why have laws?

 

[Lursa]

Studies have shown that States with licensing and registration requirements tend to have fewer of the guns sold in that State show up at crime scenes. The guns that show up are from States with much looser requirements.

So there is that.

I dont know what that even means. Please provide your sources for context.

 

[Chillfolks]

Then why have laws?

Are you asking why we should have constitutional laws and not unconstitutional laws or acting dumb

 

[Chillfolks]

I dont know what that even means. Please provide your sources for context.

It means nothing, instead of admitting that registration will
Have very little impact it was a look over there tactic

 

[Jezcoe]

I dont know what that even means. Please provide your sources for context.

Easy.

States that have stricter Registration and Licensing laws tend to have fewer guns sold within that State show up at crime. scenes.

 

[Jezcoe]

Are you asking why we should have constitutional laws and not unconstitutional laws or acting dumb

No right is absolute.

 

[Lursa]

Easy.

States that have stricter Registration and Licensing laws tend to have fewer guns sold within that State show up at crime. scenes.

Sources?

 

[Maidenrules29]

350,000,000

Thats an UNDER estimate.....

 

[hecatmoggie]

The only difference with other countries is that everyone here can be a militia of one

no

noun

1. a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.

 

[hecatmoggie]

In what world are you living in that commiting acts of violence isn't already preached against and punished?

Targeting gun owners? That is just as silly as saying that mandatory seatbelt laws are targeting car owners. Minor inconveniences are not a full out assault on liberty.

the USA

we have music that glories it, tv and movies that glamourizes it, video games that gives extra points for it, we allow criminals time and time again to go to prison for 20% of their sentence, get out, do it again ... and again, and again

we allow drugs and gangs to run our nation in many areas, especially inner cities


yeah .... that's the USA

 

[hecatmoggie]

An entire generation has had to go through active shooter lockdown drills because what else could the nation do?

why didn't the generations of the 40's, 50's 60's, 70's, 80's have to go through it ? the guns have not changed, we have 200 million more now than then ........

what's changed ?

 

[hecatmoggie]

When a car changes hands it is registered with the State.

If we are to compare guns to cars... why cannot the same happen for firearms?

no, only if the person wants to stay legal does that happen

illegals drive cars without licenses, tags etc , people with no intent on being legal drive anyway, you can't stop them unless you imprison them, can you ?

There are 28 million uninsured drivers drivers in the U.S. 1 in 8 motorists (12.6%) don't have auto insurance.
About 15.9% of Americans don't have a valid driver's license. The age groups with the highest percentage without a driver's license are 16-19 years old (65.2%), 85 and older (39.9%) and 20 to 24 (19.2%).
Dec 9, 2010 — Like Ms. Valencia, an estimated 4.5 million illegal immigrants nationwide are driving regularly, most without licenses (certainly WAY higher now)


see how that works'? its not the common sense laws, its the PEOPLE ........... so to stop the above what do you do? ban cars?

 

[hecatmoggie]

Some people break the law... why have laws?

to loosley bind people

but in the end, tomorrow you and I could do - literally - anything we wanted to do

and nothing will stop us from doing it - am I right ?

 

[Maidenrules29]

Some people break the law... why have laws?

So that we can charge them with breaking one and then hold them accountable through due process.

 

[nota bene]

Well the Right claim it's a mental health issue, let's see the GOP House put some money into community mental health care.

I see that you've avoided responding to what I posted to you about the unfairness of your accusation.

 

[RF667799]

No right is absolute.

Nor can they be absolutely shit upon. Especially enumerated, fundamental rights.