Shots fired at ICE facility in Texas / At least 3 people injured in shooting at Dallas ICE facility, acting director says

[Paradoxical]

Hmmm your post.

Paradoxical “are you aware that Antifa and other left-wingers funderd by Soros would take cellphone photos of ICE agents, find out where they live, and kill their families”..

And some more.

• Garcia Venegas v. DHS (2025): An Alabama construction worker and U.S. citizen, Leo Garcia Venegas, filed a class-action lawsuit after he was allegedly detained twice during workplace raids despite showing his valid U.S. ID. The suit challenges what his lawyers call "unconstitutional and illegal immigration enforcement tactics" based on racial profiling.
• Gonzalez v. ICE (2013-2020): This class-action lawsuit centered on U.S. citizens who were subjected to ICE detainers without a probable cause determination. The court eventually ruled that ICE and the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department unlawfully detained thousands of people and issued a permanent injunction against the practice.

• Baltimore holding cell lawsuit (2025):Immigration advocacy groups sued ICE for allegedly holding people in inhumane conditions in Baltimore holding cells for prolonged periods. The suit describes conditions where detainees were denied basic necessities like food, blankets, and medical care.

• Lawsuit after car window smashed (2025):In June 2025, Lawyers for Civil Rights filed a complaint after masked ICE agents smashed a family's car window during a traffic stop, violently dragging a passenger out in front of his wife and children. The officers reportedly did not identify themselves or present a warrant.
• Protester injuries in Paramount, CA (2025): In June 2025, residents and protesters in Paramount, CA, alleged that federal agents fired tear gas and projectiles at a peaceful crowd, injuring several people.

Please highlight in bold where in my post I said they WERE being killed.

 

[Paradoxical]

Hmmm your post.

Paradoxical “are you aware that Antifa and other left-wingers funderd by Soros would take cellphone photos of ICE agents, find out where they live, and kill their families”..

And some more.

• Garcia Venegas v. DHS (2025): An Alabama construction worker and U.S. citizen, Leo Garcia Venegas, filed a class-action lawsuit after he was allegedly detained twice during workplace raids despite showing his valid U.S. ID. The suit challenges what his lawyers call "unconstitutional and illegal immigration enforcement tactics" based on racial profiling.
• Gonzalez v. ICE (2013-2020): This class-action lawsuit centered on U.S. citizens who were subjected to ICE detainers without a probable cause determination. The court eventually ruled that ICE and the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department unlawfully detained thousands of people and issued a permanent injunction against the practice.

• Baltimore holding cell lawsuit (2025):Immigration advocacy groups sued ICE for allegedly holding people in inhumane conditions in Baltimore holding cells for prolonged periods. The suit describes conditions where detainees were denied basic necessities like food, blankets, and medical care.
• Lawsuit after car window smashed (2025):In June 2025, Lawyers for Civil Rights filed a complaint after masked ICE agents smashed a family's car window during a traffic stop, violently dragging a passenger out in front of his wife and children. The officers reportedly did not identify themselves or present a warrant.
• Protester injuries in Paramount, CA (2025): In June 2025, residents and protesters in Paramount, CA, alleged that federal agents fired tear gas and projectiles at a peaceful crowd, injuring several people.

advocacy groups, Lawyers for civil rights. They would sue if an ICE agent called someone a Mexican.

 

[mike2810]

How can I post something that didn't happen. One of the links he posted was a guy that deserved it. An old Codger who was fat and slovenly who thought he could harass an ICE officer because he was old and fat.

sigh.
still won't address my point. You complained the poster only giving a couple of examples.
You did not ask the poster to provide all examples.

bye.

 

[Paradoxical]

sigh.
still won't address my point. You complained the poster only giving a couple of examples.
You did not ask the poster to provide all examples.

bye.

He would have posted them if he had them. Perhaps YOU have others?

 

[mike2810]

He would have posted them if he had them. Perhaps YOU have others?

oh bs.
I have asked you numerous times on other threads for "links" / evidence and you failed to supply any.

Bye.

 

[Paradoxical]

oh bs.
I have asked you numerous times on other threads for "links" / evidence and you failed to supply any.

Bye.

Links to what? That these alleged incidents (two of them) are outliers? What you always do is what Christians do. "Prove there is no God"

 

[jaeger19]

Please highlight in bold where in my post I said they WERE being killed.

Great. So you admit that your worry over their families being killed are unfounded.
You just killed your own argument .

 

[jaeger19]

advocacy groups, Lawyers for civil rights. They would sue if an ICE agent called someone a Mexican.

Citation.
I however have provided evidence of instance of ice arresting and detaining citizens, unnecessary and excessive force, violation of due process and access to legal counsel etc.

Not one of my examples was “ if an ice agent called a person a Mexican “

So you show me evidence of such lawsuits.

 

[Paradoxical]

Great. So you admit that your worry over their families being killed are unfounded.
You just killed your own argument .

Why would I do that when we already know someone shot up an ICE facility and killed people?

 

[Paradoxical]

Citation.
I however have provided evidence of instance of ice arresting and detaining citizens, unnecessary and excessive force, violation of due process and access to legal counsel etc.

Not one of my examples was “ if an ice agent called a person a Mexican “

So you show me evidence of such lawsuits.

Two instances. One of which was a guy thinking he could mess with an ICE agent,

 

[jaeger19]

Two instances. One of which was a guy thinking he could mess with an ICE agent,

No. I provided more than that.
Not to mention ICE’s 9
Own report of over 350 lawsuits and counting.

Sorry facts are facts. You have no evidence there is any need to have masked ice agents
And there is compelling evidence that ice agents need to be held accountable and that starts with them being able to be identified.

You claim to be a conservative for smaller government.
Please explain why having masked government agents abduct people off the street in unmarked vans is an example of “ smaller government”.

 

[jaeger19]

Why would I do that when we already know someone shot up an ICE facility and killed people?

Because shooting at an ice detention facility and killing detainees is not targeting individual ice agents and their families that’s why you ridiculous dude

 

[Paradoxical]

No. I provided more than that.
Not to mention ICE’s 9
Own report of over 350 lawsuits and counting.

Sorry facts are facts. You have no evidence there is any need to have masked ice agents
And there is compelling evidence that ice agents need to be held accountable and that starts with them being able to be identified.

You claim to be a conservative for smaller government.
Please explain why having masked government agents abduct people off the street in unmarked vans is an example of “ smaller government”.

I won't read your links. I read posts. I don't watch YouTube or read some other blogger masquerading as a reporter.

 

[Paradoxical]

Because shooting at an ice detention facility and killing detainees is not targeting individual ice agents and their families that’s why you ridiculous dude

How do you know? He shot up their facility to kill detainees? Really?

 

[jaeger19]

I won't read your links. I read posts. I don't watch YouTube or read some other blogger masquerading as a reporter.

You won’t read links because you can’t understand scientific journals and scientific reports. Which is pretty much all I cite.
I don’t follow bloggers or this “ you tube” you speak of.

 

[jaeger19]

How do you know? He shot up their facility to kill detainees? Really?

He wasn’t targeting individual ice agents and their families now was he ? You ridiculous dude.

 

[Paradoxical]

You won’t read links because you can’t understand scientific journals and scientific reports. Which is pretty much all I cite.
I don’t follow bloggers or this “ you tube” you speak of.

Like when Fauci said masks don’t work?

 

[Paradoxical]

He wasn’t targeting individual ice agents and their families now was he ? You ridiculous dude.

Give me a break.

 

[jaeger19]

Like when Fauci said masks don’t work?

Exactly. I don’t really give nor have ever gave a rip about what FAUCI said. I can and do read the research just as well as he does.
Frankly in our discussions I have never brought up FAUCI as a source . And that’s because when FAUCI was speaking to the general public he had to really dumb down a complex subject into easier to understand bullet points.
( and still morons can’t understand what he meant)

Nope instead I gave cited actual research papers from good single studies to meta analysis.
No twitter x, no FAUCI, no “ you tube’ no “ bloggers”

I’ve cited actual scientific research .

YOU are the one that keeps talking about FAUCI and YOU STILL CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT HE SAID.

You just don’t have the capacity to understand despite how many times it’s been shown to you.
As I’ve said , it’s people like you that made me change my stance on mandatory vaccination from being against it to now being supportive of it .
Some people are just too stupid to make decisions for themselves and they must be told for the good of society.

 

[Paradoxical]

Exactly. I don’t really give nor have ever gave a rip about what FAUCI said. I can and do read the research just as well as he does.
Frankly in our discussions I have never brought up FAUCI as a source . And that’s because when FAUCI was speaking to the general public he had to really dumb down a complex subject into easier to understand bullet points.
( and still morons can’t understand what he meant)

Nope instead I gave cited actual research papers from good single studies to meta analysis.
No twitter x, no FAUCI, no “ you tube’ no “ bloggers”

I’ve cited actual scientific research .

YOU are the one that keeps talking about FAUCI and YOU STILL CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT HE SAID.

You just don’t have the capacity to understand despite how many times it’s been shown to you.
As I’ve said , it’s people like you that made me change my stance on mandatory vaccination from being against it to now being supportive of it .
Some people are just too stupid to make decisions for themselves and they must be told for the good of society.

Look, alleged "doctor" I have schooled you on masks from Day ONE and you still don't understand. A cloth masks useless and your 'science' in the NIH, the head of it, was the GOTO guy for the world. Had he been honest, he would have said, Look, people cloth masks are a joke. You MIGHT be better off with a medical mask, but I don't want to be honest right now because too many people will run out and buy them. But, I, as "The Science" (as he claimed) know because I have 50 useless years on the job and rake in millions in donations plus my $430,000. a year job know that the ONLY mask worthwhile is a properly fitted N95 mask. So, what I am doing is telling Trump he should use the powers he has to immediately get to work and have all hands on deck in making them here in the United States immediately. I am very sorry to tell all of you this but medical masks are need by doctors, and they will be gone if you all buy them so I am asking Trump by EO to ban sales to the public and in the interim stay home or wear two masks, knowing even that won't keep out most Covid particles as they are as small as cigarette smoke, so if you can smell smoke, that means Covid is getting through too. Thank you for your cooperation, and now I must go out and buy stock in N95 masks."

 

[Metric Mouse]

Glad that no more wild people of a particular anti ice persuasion have murdered any innocent people this week.

Let's keep that record going.

 

[jaeger19]

Look, alleged "doctor" I have schooled you on masks from Day ONE and you still don't understand. A cloth masks useless and your 'science' in the NIH, the head of it, was the GOTO guy for the world. Had he been honest, he would have said, Look, people cloth masks are a joke. You MIGHT be better off with a medical mask, but I don't want to be honest right now because too many people will run out and buy them. But, I, as "The Science" (as he claimed) know because I have 50 useless years on the job and rake in millions in donations plus my $430,000. a year job know that the ONLY mask worthwhile is a properly fitted N95 mask. So, what I am doing is telling Trump he should use the powers he has to immediately get to work and have all hands on deck in making them here in the United States immediately. I am very sorry to tell all of you this but medical masks are need by doctors, and they will be gone if you all buy them so I am asking Trump by EO to ban sales to the public and in the interim stay home or wear two masks, knowing even that won't keep out most Covid particles as they are as small as cigarette smoke, so if you can smell smoke, that means Covid is getting through too. Thank you for your cooperation, and now I must go out and buy stock in N95 masks."

Dude. You didn’t school anyone on masks.
Cripes you still don’t understand the difference between wearing a mask for personal protection and one for source control.

You still don’t understand how the immune system works and how someone becomes infected.

You don’t understand the physics of droplets and aerosols .

And here is the thing. You REFUSE and admit to refusing to reading the scientific studies on the efficacy of wearing masks for either self protection or source control.

You are frankly clueless.

 

[Paradoxical]

Dude. You didn’t school anyone on masks.
Cripes you still don’t understand the difference between wearing a mask for personal protection and one for source control.

You still don’t understand how the immune system works and how someone becomes infected.

You don’t understand the physics of droplets and aerosols .

And here is the thing. You REFUSE and admit to refusing to reading the scientific studies on the efficacy of wearing masks for either self protection or source control.

You are frankly clueless.

Unlike you and others, I did review the literature and I don't know what kind of "doctor" you allege to being, but you know very little about the efficacy of masks. But this thread is not about that, so I will leave it go.

 

[jaeger19]

Unlike you and others, I did review the literature and I don't know what kind of "doctor" you allege to being, but you know very little about the efficacy of masks. But this thread is not about that, so I will leave it go.

Great.
Cite a scientific study that shows masks are not effective for source control and let’s discuss it.

It should be easy for you to produce since you’ve read the science.

 

[notquiteright]

Your post are scary.

That might be a matter of personal experience....
Unlike many loud mouthed MAGANUT snowflakes I spent some of my first adult years doing what Kegbreath was blowing smoke about. What is the purpose of the Infantry (not the entire military as asshat Pete puffed up about)??? Two things- break stuff and kill people....
I don't condone civilians killing civilians, don't condone law enforcement killing unarmed citizens but there are times I do believe that if there is a GAWD, she works in mysterious ways. Kirk didn't 'deserve' to die at the hands of another citizen but given his heartless prattle about 'gun' violence I do see a certain amount of 'what goes around comes around' in this....