Shapiro bashes NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani over failure to condemn ‘blatantly antisemitic’ extremists

[Tigerace117]

Ok, thank you. I don't agree with his positions in the first paragraph. But I'm guessing you can't find a quote of him saying that "opposing the famine Israel is causing is anti Semitic”?

BDS was created as a result of Israel’s actions....such as causing the famine.

Shapiro has repeated declared BDS to be “anti- Semitic”.

 

[Cameron]

BDS was created as a result of Israel’s actions....such as causing the famine.

Shapiro has repeated declared BDS to be “anti- Semitic”.

BDS was created in 2005.

 

[Tigerace117]

BDS was created in 2005.

Israel was carrying out similar atrocities long before 2023.

 

[Cameron]

Israel was carrying out similar atrocities long before 2023.

I don't think there is any legitimate comparison between Israel's actions pre- and post-2023. Completely different in scale and context.

I can't find a video or direct quote, but multiple articles reference the following:

"Shapiro has also been deeply critical of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, whom he has described as “a dangerous and destructive force” and “one of the worst leaders of all time.” In remarks to reporters last week, he said widespread suffering in Gaza is unacceptable, and has advocated for a two-state solution."

Anyway, my position remains that I would prefer him to make more comments like the bolded. It would certainly do much to undercut claims like yours that he is just fine and dandy with starving children. And as someone known for being generally pro-Israel it would carry some weight.

 

[j brown's body]

Pa. Gov. Josh Shapiro bashes NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani over failure to condemn ‘blatantly antisemitic’ extremists

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro has ripped socialist Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani for failing to condemn the “blatantly antisemitic” rhetoric being spewed by his Israel-bash…

nypost.com

When you are cobbling together a coalition not unified behind policies, services and position but instead based on identity and intersectional victim status, it always fractures and falls apart.

It should be noted that Pennsylvania registration is going more Republican with the smallest gap between parties in the modern era right now.

A NYC Mayor like Mamdani is just the sort of push that would help shove it over to full red and Republican.

Shapiro knows this which is why he is speaking up. He will be up for reelection in 2026. Will Democrat fracturing end up pushing him out of office and leave the Democrats more extreme than ever?

Shapiro needs to be careful. The Democratic Party and country in general aren't behind Israel nearly as much as they used to be.

 

[911Sparky]

Well, so one democrat has spoken out. I bet that pained Shapiro to do it. Then he wants to be President. For the most part, democrats will not speak out against one another and some of the most visible dems are in total support of Mamdani. Mamdani's the guy I want to stay out front, it makes it so much easier on republicans to win.

Is it your well thought out opinion that if Mamdani wins the mayoral race in New York City, that the entire Democratic party, all across America will become Bernie backing Socialists? I have read several news accounts about how Republicans nationwide are planning to use a Mamdani win
as a springboard to success in the midterms. Relax guys, it's a local election in one state.

 

[Surrealistik]

You don't have to support Israel's actions to oppose people shrieking about globalizing the intifada.

The pearl clutching about 'globalize the intifada' is much ado about nothing.

The phrase doesn't necessitate a call to violence, and in the vast preponderance of spaces I've seen it used, it means solidarity with Palestinians, support for their rights and peaceful resistance and protest towards Israel in light of its monstrous actions such as per the BDS movement.

 

[aociswundumho]

Josh Shapiro is correct, and this is one more data point that he has good political instincts. I hope he runs for president in 2028.

I don't see democrats choosing someone so pro-Israel.

Shapiro was talking about Mamdani’s refusal to condemn the phrase “globalize the intifada,” which is indeed blatantly anti-Semitic. Mamdani has more recently said he will discourage use of the phrase; the correct decision.

Which demonstrates what a slick politician he is. Establishment dems are scared shitless by Mamdani.

Is it your well thought out opinion that if Mamdani wins the mayoral race in New York City, that the entire Democratic party, all across America will become Bernie backing Socialists?

No, but it will shift the party leftward, and it's already too left wing.

I have read several news accounts about how Republicans nationwide are planning to use a Mamdani win
as a springboard to success in the midterms. Relax guys, it's a local election in one state.

NYC is one of the most important cities in the world.

 

[aociswundumho]

The pearl clutching about 'globalize the intifada' is much ado about nothing.

It's glorifying terror against jews. Unless you're a nazi, you should clutch your pearls.

 

[Surrealistik]

It's glorifying terror against jews. Unless you're a nazi, you should clutch your pearls.

Yet another laughably incorrect, imbecilic opinion of yours; one among the all too many.

 

[911Sparky]

I don't see democrats choosing someone so pro-Israel.



Which demonstrates what a slick politician he is. Establishment dems are scared shitless by Mamdani.



No, but it will shift the party leftward, and it's already too left wing.



NYC is one of the most important cities in the world.

If New York is so important, why are the Senate and House Democrats not made up entirely of AOC and Bernie look alikes?

 

[aociswundumho]

If New York is so important, why are the Senate and House Democrats not made up entirely of AOC and Bernie look alikes?

I meant "important" in the sense that if a socialist becomes mayor of NYC, it would energize leftists around the world.

 

[911Sparky]

I meant "important" in the sense that if a socialist becomes mayor of NYC, it would energize leftists around the world.

To quote John Wayne "not hardly".

 

[Cameron]

I think progressives should come up with something catchy to chant that condemns Israel's inhumane treatment of Palestinians but doesn't sound like a dog-whistle way of calling for suicide bombings against jews on a global scale. I think they'd be amazed how much more traction they'd get. Surely it can't be that hard?

 

[aociswundumho]

Yet another laughably incorrect, imbecilic opinion of yours; one among the all too many.

Most jews see it the way I stated it.

 

[aociswundumho]

I think progressives should come up with something catchy to chant that condemns Israel's inhumane treatment of Palestinians but doesn't sound like a dog-whistle way of calling for suicide bombings against jews on a global scale. I think they'd be amazed how much more traction they'd get. Surely it can't be that hard?

Another possibility is that the dog whistles are intentional.

 

[Surrealistik]

Most jews see it the way I stated it.

Most Jews, according to who?

I will certainly grant that this may be true among those ardent Zionists like Shapiro who have never seen a material criticism of Israel that they didn't dislike, or ridiculously demonize as being anti-Semitic.

I think progressives should come up with something catchy to chant that condemns Israel's inhumane treatment of Palestinians but doesn't sound like a dog-whistle way of calling for suicide bombings against jews on a global scale. I think they'd be amazed how much more traction they'd get. Surely it can't be that hard?

I don't disagree that there are better options which should be adopted, but this asinine nonsense about GTI being some rallying call to violence against Jews/Israel is what it is: ridiculous pearl clutching.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Well, so one democrat has spoken out. I bet that pained Shapiro to do it. Then he wants to be President. For the most part, democrats will not speak out against one another and some of the most visible dems are in total support of Mamdani. Mamdani's the guy I want to stay out front, it makes it so much easier on republicans to win.

In NYC it will not, and not because Mamdani's a Democrat but because he has a a populist message that's resonated with a large percentage of NYers. The Democrats are actually trying to pull something similar to what the GOP tried to do to Trump, so we'll see if that works. As for the GOP, Curtis Sliwa is their candidate and he'll likely fare as poorly as he has in the past. You should actually want him not to stay out in front because he's proving to be the populist Democrat people seem to be itching for now that we're in the 4Chan Presidency.

 

[Tigerace117]

Ok, thank you. I don't agree with him on all of that. But the Ben and Jerry's stuff, at least, was in 2021. A few things have happened since then.... I'm guessing you can't find a quote of him saying that "opposing the famine Israel is causing is anti Semitic”?

Yeah, if anything Israel has behaved worse since 2021.

 

[Tigerace117]

I don't think there is any legitimate comparison between Israel's actions pre- and post-2023. Completely different in scale and context.

I can't find a video or direct quote, but multiple articles reference the following:

"Shapiro has also been deeply critical of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, whom he has described as “a dangerous and destructive force” and “one of the worst leaders of all time.” In remarks to reporters last week, he said widespread suffering in Gaza is unacceptable, and has advocated for a two-state solution."

Anyway, my position remains that I would prefer him to make more comments like the bolded. It would certainly do much to undercut claims like yours that he is just fine and dandy with starving children. And as someone known for being generally pro-Israel it would carry some weight.

But he won’t, because he is entirely okay with Israel’s war crimes.

As he has repeatedly made quite clear.

 

[Trumpetman]

Shapiro needs to be careful. The Democratic Party and country in general aren't behind Israel nearly as much as they used to be.

Shapiro needs to be careful? Democrats need to be careful. Shapiro is electable nationally.

 

[Cameron]

I will say I would rather have Shapiro speak out about the starvation happening in Gaza than Mamdani.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/05/josh-shapiro-gaza-crisis-00494745

“I think our nation, the United States of America, has a moral responsibility to flood the zone with aid and make sure those children that need to be fed get the food and the nourishment and the medicines that they need to be able to survive this,” Shapiro said. “It is awful what is happening in Gaza. And we all have a responsibility to be there for those children.”

The governor also criticized Netanyahu for denying that Gaza’s residents are facing starvation, saying that kind of language “further isolates” Israel among nations. “And that’s a dangerous place for Israel to be,” Shapiro said. “So, I think the rhetoric coming from Prime Minister Netanyahu only creates less stability and security for Israel.”

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FWIW

 

[Atomic Kid]

Pa. Gov. Josh Shapiro bashes NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani over failure to condemn ‘blatantly antisemitic’ extremists

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro has ripped socialist Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani for failing to condemn the “blatantly antisemitic” rhetoric being spewed by his Israel-bash…

nypost.com

When you are cobbling together a coalition not unified behind policies, services and position but instead based on identity and intersectional victim status, it always fractures and falls apart.

It should be noted that Pennsylvania registration is going more Republican with the smallest gap between parties in the modern era right now.

A NYC Mayor like Mamdani is just the sort of push that would help shove it over to full red and Republican.

Shapiro knows this which is why he is speaking up. He will be up for reelection in 2026. Will Democrat fracturing end up pushing him out of office and leave the Democrats more extreme than ever?

Buh-By Trumpetman!

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Zohran has the support of Jewish voters in New York that care more about his policies to create a more affordable and better city than the massive propaganda to vilify him.

Zohran Mamdani scores 17-point lead with Jewish voters in NYC mayoral race

Mamdani's support among Jewish voters comes after accusations from opponents and some community leaders that his criticism of Israel represents antisemitism.

www.newsweek.com

While people speaking out against Israel's war in Gaza are being detained and silenced.

Rumeysa Ozturk: Turkish Tufts University student released on bail - BBC News

Her arrest followed the White House's crackdown on what it has classified as antisemitism on US campuses.

www.bbc.com

Investigations at Columbia Clash with Free Speech Concerns

Columbia has begun investigating students who have been critical of Israel. Some free speech experts have concerns.

time.com

There are many more examples of how Republicans silence free speech.

ABC’s and CBS’s settlements with Trump are a dangerous step toward the commander in chief becoming the editor-in-chief

Will costly settlements over news stories the president sued about influence network journalists when deciding whether to pursue investigative stories involving the Trump administration?

theconversation.com

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/17/media/right-wing-book-bans-accelerating

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Well, so one democrat has spoken out. I bet that pained Shapiro to do it. Then he wants to be President. For the most part, democrats will not speak out against one another and some of the most visible dems are in total support of Mamdani. Mamdani's the guy I want to stay out front, it makes it so much easier on republicans to win.

It's Republican politicians that doesn't want to speech out against it's other. For example that they have no problem with Trump pardoning dangerous criminals that beat up cops. Or that a January six rioter urging fellow rioters to kill cops is now a "valuable member" of the Justice department.

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/06/nx-s1-5287708/trump-pardoned-jan-6-rioters-prosecutors-fbi-police

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/07/nx-s1-5493197/doj-trump-jan-6-defendant-jared-wise-capitol-riot?utm_source=bsky.app&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_medium=social

Also fellow Republicans have been unwilling to speech out against Trump's lies. So that a majority of Republicans believed Trump's lies about Obama's birth certificate and that 2020 election was stolen.

Poll: Persistent Partisan Divide Over ‘Birther’ Question

Seventy-two percent of registered Republican voters still doubt President Obama’s citizenship, according to a recent NBC News|SurveyMonkey poll.

www.nbcnews.com

After Three Years and Many Indictments, the “Big Lie” That Led to the January 6th Insurrection Is Still Believed by Most Republicans

January 6, 2024 marks the third anniversary of the unprecedented assault on our nation’s Capitol, in which Trump supporters attempted to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.

prri.org