Serious Reasons Not To Get Vaccinated Please

[joko104]

Well, Democrats are part of the problem. They spent one year telling people not to get the vaccine and that it was being rushed. Now we have an "emergency use" vaccine that is not approved for general use. The truth is, if Trump were still president, the left would be urging everyone not to get the rushed Trump vaccine and would be touting up all of the bad vaccine stories instead of sweeping them under the rug.

Governor Cuomo said he would not allow the vaccines until New York conducted its own studies on them for those reasons. That study hasn't even been started and looks like was just lies.

Let me know when the New York state government study is done.

 

[jaypatriot]

Are you saying we should trust trump?

My reason is the risk of getting covid is low and dying from covid even lower. And getting lower every day. So why inject something with no long term studies that only has emergency approval? Especially when my legal rights are limited. If they work and everyone else wants to get then, win win for me.

And you're so smart you go to gambling casinos to play the slots all day because you know you're going to win, right?

Give thanks you don't work an organization that is smart enough to say if you're not vaccinated then don't come to work.

 

[iguanaman]

Yes, most people and particularly Democrats did as Trump told them to.

I understand to you all questions are questions of loyalty - meaning abandonment of self for total submission. Thus, you would see it as a question of who told you want to do and figure - bizarrely - that people who "don't trust the government" follow orders from Trump? How bizarre.

In my opinion, anyone who "trusts" the government is a fool. Would you like a list of all the big lies the government has told that has cost American lives? How about the justification given for most wars? What about the lies and admissions the lies were specifically to manipulate people about covid-19, including by all the experts?

You answered your own question. You don't make any decisions. You decided who you will have make decisions for you. The answer to your question is some people are self realized, independently thinking people. Most people are not. They just turn on TV or look on the internet to hear their masters' instructions, to be told what to think about today, and what your opinions and emotional state should be.

This all leads to the obvious question. Which master's orders were you following?

So like I thought...the right wing line is that getting vaccinated is surrendering your freedoms to the libs. No wonder there is so much covid around now.
BTW I have not seen one post of yours where you don't trust Trump in every way. If he told you it was you duty as a voter and a supporter to get a vaccine you would get it.

 

[joko104]

And it's also your choice if you wish to admonish or educate her.
Did you ask her if she knows the difference between emergency use approval and FDA testing approval?
I heard the same from a friend here but he was getting pressured from too many sides of his extended family. So he eventually capitulated because it was easy to get the shot.

To me, getting vaccinated was a no brainer because so many in the medical profession were urging it and cases have tapered off where more people were vaccinated.

Yes, most people like you in your message only think about today. Don't matter to you how what you do today affects you or anyone else tomorrow.

Do you know the difference between emergency use approval and FDA full approval? Of course, all those lawyers ads on TV about FDA approved drugs hurting people and found by juries are all lies and all those juries all idiots - not like you. LOL

 

[Rawley]

why thank you------I'll let you know when I ignore that fact.......(best re-read my response)

I did read your response. Again, you're free to ignore the fact that the FDA considers them experimental drugs and go with someone else's definition. I'll stick with how the FDA is. treating them.

 

[minnie616]

As we have all been told, even after vaccination, we are all still carriers, we just don't get sick.

False.

If we are vaccinated our virus load is too low to carry it to others.

I have been posting that for months the data from the Israeli pointed that out.

The CDC too a few months of American data to reach the same conclusion.
That is when they dropped the mask recommendations for the vaccinated.


Posted in April 2021 :

the Israeli study does not show transmission from anyone vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine.
( Israel made a deal that Pfizerwould provide free vaccine and Israel let let Pfizer study the data of the vaccinated )

The vaccinated no longer wear masks or social distance around each other and no transmissions have occurred.

Fauci ‘not sure’ why Texas doesn’t have COVID uptick after nixing masks

Fauci is a guy with 5 decades in the field that was so stupid that apparently he didnt know masks were 'effective' against the virus and now believes that even after you have been vaccinated you should wear 2 of them. And you 'people' kneel at his alter. His alternate what?

debatepolitics.com

 

[Rawley]

You are misinformed.

What can I tell you? The FDA considers them experimental. I gave you the links from the FDA, including the Fact Sheet warning that told you they are investigational (experimental) that you received if you got the Pfizer vaccine.

 

[Rawley]

Are you really posturing on this now.

She clearly said not to take it if Trump was the only one saying to get it, and that we needed trustworthy scientists and scientific agencies to OK it.

I had no idea you were this dishonest. I’ll make a note of it for the future.

Please do, Because this site is all about me rather than issues. Sorry your gal lied to placate the Trump haters, but it is what it is.

 

[iguanaman]

I did read your response. Again, you're free to ignore the fact that the FDA considers them experimental drugs and go with someone else's definition. I'll stick with how the FDA is. treating them.

"Experimental drugs" do not get approval from the FDA emergency or otherwise. All the covid vaccines used here have been through all the trials that fully approved drugs have and more. Stop making things up.

 

[jaypatriot]

true-----but, just do it........for the love of.........

Isn't it amazing how many know-it-all blockheads there are who, in the face of overwhelming evidence in favor of the vaccine, continue to come up with excuses why they don't want to or need to get vaccinated.
There are millions of citizens guilty of vaccine hesitancy.
These are many of the same people who, when told on an airplane to mask up, they rebel to the point where a flight has to stop to kick them off.
Some people, because of their "superior knowledge", have no problem putting others at risk because they can become unwitting carriers of a deadly virus strain and don't care to listen to logic or reason.

 

[iguanaman]

Please do, Because this site is all about me rather than issues. Sorry your gal lied to placate the Trump haters, but it is what it is.

The truth is that the one term mistake has not formally endorsed the vaccine so it is you that is lying. Where is the video of him taking it?

 

[jaypatriot]

Yes, most people like you in your message only think about today. Don't matter to you how what you do today affects you or anyone else tomorrow.

Do you know the difference between emergency use approval and FDA full approval? Of course, all those lawyers ads on TV about FDA approved drugs hurting people and found by juries are all lies and all those juries all idiots - not like you. LOL

Posted by someone who loves conspiracy theories.

I got vaccinated because I was thinking of tomorrow - visiting with relatives; going to the health club; and playing court sports with other vaccinated, and totally logical, athletes. Just thinking about tomorrow.

 

[minnie616]

What can I tell you? The FDA considers them experimental. I gave you the links from the FDA, including the Fact Sheet warning that told you they are investigational (experimental) that you received if you got the Pfizer vaccine.

No , the FDA never said the Covid vaccine is experimental.

Post a link where the FDA says experimental.

 

[Rawley]

"Experimental drugs" do not get approval from the FDA emergency or otherwise. All the covid vaccines used here have been through all the trials that fully approved drugs have and more. Stop making things up.

I can only give you the links, I can't make you read them.

There is no U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19

https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download

You should read the warnings when someone give you a drug

 

[Rawley]

No , the FDA never said the Covid vaccine is experimental.

Post a link where the FDA says experimental.

Damn. Ok. For the 14th time.

https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download

 

[VanceMack]

Nope. He didn’t, technically speaking.
The trump virus did, with lots of help from the jackass/one-term-mistake. If we had a competent leader at least 80% of the fatalities could have been avoided.

TDS is just such a very very very sad thing.........

 

[iguanaman]

I can only give you the links, I can't make you read them.

There is no U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19

https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download

You should read the warnings when someone give you a drug

Nowhere in that link does the FDA call the vaccines "experimental". You made that up. It does say 23,000 took the vaccine in trials though. Not having formal approval does not mean it is experimental so stop saying that.

 

[Ethel2]

TDS is just such a very very very sad thing.........

Wrong again

TDS refers to the gullibles who believe the thousands of lies the jackass fed us

 

[Rawley]

Nowhere in that link does the FDA call the vaccines "experimental". You made that up. It does say 23,000 took the vaccine in trials though.

It calls them "investigational" which is another word for "experimental"

"Investigational Drug - can also be called an experimental drug"

Glossary of Terms

Commonly used words found on FDA.gov

www.fda.gov

 

[iguanaman]

Wrong again

TDS refers to the gullibles who believe the thousands of lies the jackass fed us

TDS is like body odor...if you smell it all the time it is probably you.

 

[minnie616]

Everyone will not get vaccinated. People still get smallpox, polio, mumps measles .... Its a very big world we live in.

No one has had a case of smallpox since 1978
.

Smallpox was eradicated.

As of April 14, 1978, no cases of smallpox have been reported to the World Health Organization (WHO) from anywhere in the world since the last case had onset of rash on October 26, 1977, in Merka town, Somalia.

 

[iguanaman]

It calls them "investigational" which is another word for "experimental"

Investigational Drug - can also be called an experimental drug

Glossary of Terms

Commonly used words found on FDA.gov

www.fda.gov

That refers to drugs in clinical trials like it says in definition. You seem to have comprehension problems. We are not in clinical trials, those were done BEFORE the authorization.

Investigational Drug - can also be called an experimental drug and is being studied to see if your disease or medical condition improves while taking it. Scientists are trying to prove in clinical trials:
If the drug is safe and effective.
How the drug might be used in that disease.
How much of the drug is needed.
Information about the potential benefits and risks of taking the drug.

 

[Rawley]

That refers to drugs in clinical trials like it says in definition. You seem to have comprehension problems.

Back atcha

Pssst, you are part of one of biggest clinical trials ever.

There is no U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19

 

[Rawley]

No one has had a case of smallpox since 1978
.

Smallpox was eradicated.

As of April 14, 1978, no cases of smallpox have been reported to the World Health Organization (WHO) from anywhere in the world since the last case had onset of rash on October 26, 1977, in Merka town, Somalia.

You're right. My bad.

At least you stopped arguing against the fact that the vaccines are experimental drugs.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

Nah.

“Common colds can be caused by a variety of different viruses [and] one type that causes the common cold is the coronavirus,” says Prathit Kulkarni, M.D., assistant professor of medicine in infectious diseases at Baylor College of Medicine in Texas.

Sorry but corona viruses are part of the many different viruses that make up colds. Just like there are many different flue viruses there are also many different types of cold viruses. My doctor was the one who told me it was a cold virus.