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Ahhh Taiwan's pro-China party wins 3 of 5 mayoral seats - International Business Times
Tensions between the two countries have been easing due to increased trade and how China treats Hong Kong
Should we sell jet fighters to Iran?
Of course not but if someone comes knocking wanting to buy our products, we sell it to them. China would do the same. If Iran asks China for planes or nuclear technology, China is going to sell it to them. (or just give it to them).
We're going to "get in it" with China eventually, and anyone that doesn't see that coming is fooling themselves. Sun Tzu would say, hit them when they're weak, not when they're strong..
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China does not want to go to war with their best customer, and they don't want to destroy someone that owes them as much money as we do. Think about it for a second: they destroy the US, nobody buys their cheap crap, and they lose on their investments.
They're not idiots.
So you aren't for free trade?
China has no legal rights to Taiwan and it is clear that Taiwan's people want nothing to do with political union with China.
You're thinking like a western capitalist. Yes, they may share some of our values and motivations, but it is a trap to think that because we wouldn't go to war (with our mode of thinking and motivations) in their situation, they won't either.
How naïve are you?
The Chinese have no qualms about using state sponsored intelligence agencies to steal trade secrets for their own industries; they have no qualms about state-sponsored cyber-terrorism, either.
Should we sell jet fighters to Iran?
That's because those two have relatively healthy trade and diplomatic relations, and are not adversaries in the arena of global politics. Are you saying that if AQ knocked on our door asking for nuclear technology or fissile material, we should sell it to them?
Nope, but we shouldn't allow China to dictate to us who we will or won't sell to.
You're thinking like a western capitalist. Yes, they may share some of our values and motivations, but it is a trap to think that because we wouldn't go to war (with our mode of thinking and motivations) in their situation, they won't either.
How naïve are you?
Nope, but we shouldn't allow China to dictate to us who we will or won't sell to.
So when the US did not sell military equipment to Taiwan in 2001 and 2006 due to Chinese pressure, it was due to political incompetence?Μολὼν λαβέ;1059756482 said:I agree, only the politically incompetent would do that.
So when the US did not sell military equipment to Taiwan in 2001 and 2006 due to Chinese pressure, it was due to political incompetence?
Taiwan wants to BUY the weapons, not accept them as a gift. If you think supporting the U.S.'s allies in this region is not in the long-term interest of the United States, you have a serious case of ostrich-syndrome...
Yeah people seem to be under the impression that pissing off one of your largest creditors is a GOOD THING.
Just like everyone who's railing about this goes to the bank, and pisses on their loan consultants desk after taking out a line of credit :lol:
The problem is not that we piss off a creditor. It's that we owe them money in the first place.
The United States also put financial pressure on Great Britain to end the invasion. Because the Bank of England had lost $50 million (US) between 30 October and 2 November, and England's oil supply had been damaged by the closing of the Suez Canal, the British sought immediate assistance from the IMF, but it was denied by the United States. Eisenhower in fact ordered his Secretary of the Treasury, George M. Humphrey, to prepare to sell part of the US Government's Sterling Bond holdings. The US Government held these bonds in part to aid post war Britain’s economy (during the Cold War), and as partial payment of Britain’s enormous World War II debt to the US Government, American corporations, and individuals. It was also part of the overall effort of Marshall Plan aid, in the rebuilding of the Western European economies.
Britain's then Chancellor of the Exchequer, Harold Macmillan, advised his Prime Minister, Anthony Eden, that the United States was fully prepared to carry out this threat. He also warned his Prime Minister that Britain's foreign exchange reserves simply could not sustain the devaluation of the pound that would come after the United States' actions; and that within weeks of such a move, the country would be unable to import the food and energy supplies needed simply to sustain the population on the islands. However, there were suspicions in the Cabinet that Macmillan had deliberately overstated the financial situation in order to force Eden out. What Treasury officials had told Macmillan was far less serious than the version he told to the Cabinet.[299]
In concert with U.S. actions Saudi Arabia started an oil embargo against Britain and France. The U.S. refused to fill the gap until Britain and France agreed to a rapid withdrawal. The other NATO members refused to sell oil they received from Arab nations to Britain or France.[300]
Well, yes you have a point, but where are they suppose to buy their weapons from?Why? Taiwan should take care of itself. Do we really want to get in it with China over Taiwan?
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Few people think Obama will approve the sale. Congress has to check the President on this and ensure the sale goes ahead. With China continuing to moderinze its military, Taiwan needs a credible defense.
Well, yes you have a point, but where are they suppose to buy their weapons from?
Profit for the companies that build them - like anythnig else.Why do we need to sell weapons?
Profit for the companies that build them - like anythnig else.
The government is involved only because of the national security issue.
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