Senate Report Details Jan 6 Intelligence and Law Enforcement Failures

[Athanasius68]

So-- the riot had nothing to with anything Trump said on Jan 6.
No incitement.

The J6 Congressional committee was wrong.

The 'fake electors' scheme is the last gasp.

Senate Report Details Jan. 6 Intelligence and Law Enforcement Failures

The report by Democrats provided the most comprehensive picture to date of how federal officials missed, downplayed or failed to act on multiple threats of and plans for violence.

www.nytimes.com

 

[NuffSaid]

This is your rebuttal to the leaked audio?
Jeez.

 

[Jetboogieman]

the riot had nothing to with anything Trump said on Jan 6.

Bro…

He spent months denying the election results.

On the day of the certification, whipped his band of white nationalists into a frenzy and told them to go to the capitol where they attacked it.

Then didn’t do anything about it.

Whatever the failure of law enforcement, doesn’t absolve the president of his traitorous actions.

 

[Jezcoe]

So-- the riot had nothing to with anything Trump said on Jan 6.
No incitement.

The J6 Congressional committee was wrong.

The 'fake electors' scheme is the last gasp.

Senate Report Details Jan. 6 Intelligence and Law Enforcement Failures

The report by Democrats provided the most comprehensive picture to date of how federal officials missed, downplayed or failed to act on multiple threats of and plans for violence.

www.nytimes.com

How do you feel about Trump not lifting a finger for hours while his supporters launched a violent attack on the Capitol?

 

[Airyaman]

So-- the riot had nothing to with anything Trump said on Jan 6.
No incitement.

The J6 Congressional committee was wrong.

The 'fake electors' scheme is the last gasp.

Senate Report Details Jan. 6 Intelligence and Law Enforcement Failures

The report by Democrats provided the most comprehensive picture to date of how federal officials missed, downplayed or failed to act on multiple threats of and plans for violence.

www.nytimes.com

False.

'Planned in plain sight': Senate report finds intel agencies failed in the lead-up to Jan. 6

The FBI and DHS downplayed the potential for violence even as rioters openly planned to attack the Capitol online, Democrats on the Senate Homeland Security Committee found.

www.nbcnews.com

While Tuesday's report goes into great detail about the lack of preparation by the various security and law enforcement agencies, it does not absolve then-President Donald Trump for his role in fueling the violence that occurred on that day. It echoes the House Jan. 6 Committee's conclusion that Trump was largely to blame for the events of that day, saying his false claims about the 2020 election results coupled with his tweet inviting supporters to Washington "directly contributed to this attack."

 

[pamak]

So-- the riot had nothing to with anything Trump said on Jan 6.
No incitement.

The J6 Congressional committee was wrong.

The 'fake electors' scheme is the last gasp.

Senate Report Details Jan. 6 Intelligence and Law Enforcement Failures

The report by Democrats provided the most comprehensive picture to date of how federal officials missed, downplayed or failed to act on multiple threats of and plans for violence.

www.nytimes.com

Your inference is as much stupid as inferring from the Senate report of 9/11 intelligence and law enforcement failures that 9/11 had nothing to do OBL and his jihad.

 

[Callen]

So-- the riot had nothing to with anything Trump said on Jan 6.
No incitement.

The J6 Congressional committee was wrong.

How you draw that conclusion from the report is remarkable. Both things can be true at the same time failures by law enforcement failures and Trump being instrumental in inciting the riots. Having said that I don't expect Trump to be specifically charged with incitement but I do expect he will be indicted on several counts involving the events leading up to the 6th and on the 6th.

 

[MTAtech]

So-- the riot had nothing to with anything Trump said on Jan 6.
No incitement.

The J6 Congressional committee was wrong.

The 'fake electors' scheme is the last gasp.

Senate Report Details Jan. 6 Intelligence and Law Enforcement Failures

The report by Democrats provided the most comprehensive picture to date of how federal officials missed, downplayed or failed to act on multiple threats of and plans for violence.

www.nytimes.com

The police failing to foil a bank robbery doesn't make the bank robbers blameless.
Trump messaged his followers, "Come to Washington on Jan 6. It will be wild." He also made a speech telling followers to go to the Capitol.
Yes, the FBI and other agencies should have known better but that doesn't excuse Trump.

 

[pamak]

The police failing to foil a bank robbery doesn't make the bank robbers blameless.
Trump messaged his followers, "Come to Washington on Jan 6. It will be wild." He also made a speech telling followers to go to the Capitol.
Yes, the FBI and other agencies should have known better but that doesn't excuse Trump.

If anything, this report shows that the intelligence and law enforcement agencies had a pro-Trump, pro-MAGA bias.

 

[dcsports]

So-- the riot had nothing to with anything Trump said on Jan 6.
No incitement.

The J6 Congressional committee was wrong.

The 'fake electors' scheme is the last gasp.

Senate Report Details Jan. 6 Intelligence and Law Enforcement Failures

The report by Democrats provided the most comprehensive picture to date of how federal officials missed, downplayed or failed to act on multiple threats of and plans for violence.

www.nytimes.com

Thank you

Link to the report....

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

 

[Donatello]

This is your rebuttal to the leaked audio?
Jeez.

It's like listening to someone telling bad yo momma jokes. You listen because you think it might be a good one, but all you get are the same old used punchlines. If Trump lied, he didn't mean it. If he did mean it, he shouldn't be criticized for it, and if he's caught red handed, it was a plot by Dems or a failure by his lawyers. Not fooling anybody anymore. He belongs in jail.

 

[Ikari]

Still trying to make excuses for sedition, I see. Sad.

 

[tanj]

Bro…

He spent months denying the election results.

On the day of the certification, whipped his band of white nationalists into a frenzy and told them to go to the capitol where they attacked it.

Then didn’t do anything about it.

Whatever the failure of law enforcement, doesn’t absolve the president of his traitorous actions.

* contesting the election results. just as democrats have done in several prior elections.
* some "attacked" it. trump called for peaceful protest.
he had offered national guard days before. that offer was declined. during the events there were several calls for national guard, which were also declined. not by trump but by those in charge of capitol security at the time.
he did make an address, but of course everyone who is demanding it says it was too late. personally, I don't think those on the ground in the capitol were listening to anything that would have delivered that message.

there is nothing tratorious about contesting an election. nor of calling for peaceful protest.

 

[Donatello]

* contesting the election results. just as democrats have done in several prior elections.
* some "attacked" it. trump called for peaceful protest.
he had offered national guard days before. that offer was declined. during the events there were several calls for national guard, which were also declined. not by trump but by those in charge of capitol security at the time.
he did make an address, but of course everyone who is demanding it says it was too late. personally, I don't think those on the ground in the capitol were listening to anything that would have delivered that message.

there is nothing tratorious about contesting an election. nor of calling for peaceful protest.

See #11.

 

[tanj]

This is your rebuttal to the leaked audio?
Jeez.

first: he never mentioned the leaked audio.
the leaked audio sound like they are incredulous about what the fuss was all about. otherwise, how would it win trumps case as he says?
it seems that we would have to know exactly what was being shown during that conversation to understand exactly what the audio represents.
that's going to be a problem for a trial that is supposed to be public and not secret. every single document that is brought in evidence will allow Trump to view, review and challenge. remember that an indictment is only the prosecutions side of the issue and the grand jury has to take evidence in accordance with the prosecutions explanation and instruction. they fully frame every piece of evidence the way they want the jury to understand it.

 

[tanj]

How do you feel about Trump not lifting a finger for hours while his supporters launched a violent attack on the Capitol?

not as bad as I feel about Pelosi not allowing the natinal guard to be used. the offer was made days before, during the events there were at least two requests to use them, but all were denied or declined.

 

[tanj]

False.

'Planned in plain sight': Senate report finds intel agencies failed in the lead-up to Jan. 6

The FBI and DHS downplayed the potential for violence even as rioters openly planned to attack the Capitol online, Democrats on the Senate Homeland Security Committee found.

www.nbcnews.com

so, contesting an election and calling for peaceful protest are now criminal activities?

 

[Jezcoe]

not as bad as I feel about Pelosi not allowing the natinal guard to be used. the offer was made days before, during the events there were at least two requests to use them, but all were denied or declined.

It is just wild how this lie has persisted. It is like every day is Groundhog day.

But let us go with it... If Trump was holding a peaceful protest why would there need to be more National Guard?

 

[Jezcoe]

so, contesting an election and calling for peaceful protest are now criminal activities?

I notice how the behind the scenes Fake Elector Scheme and pressure campaign to have Pence unilaterally reject the results of the election is kinda ignored in all of this.

 

[Callen]

so, contesting an election and calling for peaceful protest are now criminal activities?

If that had of been what really happened , maybe not but that is not what happened . There was much more to it.

 

[Donatello]

not as bad as I feel about Pelosi not allowing the natinal guard to be used. the offer was made days before, during the events there were at least two requests to use them, but all were denied or declined.

Ugh. The deflections get weaker and weaker. Got any Yo Momma jokes?

 

[j brown's body]

not as bad as I feel about Pelosi not allowing the natinal guard to be used. the offer was made days before, during the events there were at least two requests to use them, but all were denied or declined.

While there is no record of him "offering" the Guard for 1/6, is there any reason why he didn't "offer it" during the attack?

 

[tanj]

How you draw that conclusion from the report is remarkable. Both things can be true at the same time failures by law enforcement failures and Trump being instrumental in inciting the riots. Having said that I don't expect Trump to be specifically charged with incitement but I do expect he will be indicted on several counts involving the events leading up to the 6th and on the 6th.

inciting, by definition, requires one to call for others to commit illegal acts. protesting and marching are not illegal acts. as far as anyone has been able to show, that is the limit of what Trump actually said.

what counts leading up to the events do you feel he will be indicted for? indicted for what charge? an indictment is an accusation of a crime, so what crimes are you referring to?

 

[Jezcoe]

Any reason why he didn't "offer it" during the attack?

Remember the videos of people in Congress trying to get ahold of Trump? The conversations that Trump was having with his allies in Congress during the attack? Remember?

 

[Jezcoe]

inciting, by definition, requires one to call for others to commit illegal acts. protesting and marching are not illegal acts. as far as anyone has been able to show, that is the limit of what Trump actually said.

what counts leading up to the events do you feel he will be indicted for? indicted for what charge? an indictment is an accusation of a crime, so what crimes are you referring to?

I sure would like to know why there was a War Room in the Willard Hotel during the count of the Electoral Votes. What were they expecting to happen that they would need central coordination concerning an administrative act?