Senate Backers of Expanded Gun Background Checks Scramble For Votes......

[Unitedwestand13]

burr amendment up next. get's rid of the nonsense about putting vet's on the 'no buy' list for stupidity.

Let's see who supports our troops...

You really want to give veterans diagnosed with PTSD or other battle related anxiety access to guns?

 

[Unitedwestand13]

The families of Newtown would be wrong !!

I feel for them being used by the lefties in their grief.

They are not being used. They are leading the way on this issue.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Why do we need a new law for something that is already illegal?

It may be illiegal but the punishment and resources used to combat gun trafficking is proving insignificant to the task.

 

[Henrin]

You really want to give veterans diagnosed with PTSD or other battle related anxiety access to guns?

They have the right to guns. :shrug:

 

[MMC]

awb amendment failed ... 60 against.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

They have the right to guns. :shrug:

But are they in the condition to be trusted in using them safely.

 

[penn1954]

They are not being used. They are leading the way on this issue.

Some are leading,others are upset with the BS.

 

[blaxshep]

It may be illiegal but the punishment and resources used to combat gun trafficking is proving insignificant to the task.

Little wonder since as Biden says "We don't have the time to enforce the laws we already have".

 

[Henrin]

The familys ofNewtown would disagree

The familes of Aurora would disagree

I disagree with you. The amendments that were being considered in the senate were constitutional, Just like the ones that currently exist as codified laws.

None of them where constitutional and the families of Newtown and Aurora have no bearing on my rights. The same applies to you.

"I summon the living, I mourn the dead, I break the thunderbolts.

I summon the rights of the people. :shrug:

 

[penn1954]

But are they in the condition to be trusted in using them safely.

If they were in condition to use them safely

defending this country, then you're damn right they

can be trusted here at home !!!

 

[Henrin]

But are they in the condition to be trusted in using them safely.

That has no bearing on their rights.

Fail.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Little wonder since as Biden says "We don't have the time to enforce the laws we already have".

If you are talking about the lack of prosecutions of people who lied on background checks, law enforcement see that as a bad use of resources because in order to convict them of lieing on a background check, you need to proove that the suspect actually lied on the background check.

 

[blaxshep]

But are they in the condition to be trusted in using them safely.

Most of them are.

You think it is ok to send them over to get shot up defending your freedoms but it's not ok for them to enjoy the same freedoms they provided for you when they return?

 

[Unitedwestand13]

That has no bearing on their rights.

Fail.

We shall see how the votes are cast. But I expet every ammendment is going to fail.

 

[Arbo]

You really want to give veterans diagnosed with PTSD or other battle related anxiety access to guns?

Nobody said anything about PTSD. But since you brought it up, how man Vets have PTSD, and how many of them have gone on a rampage killing other people? Let's break down the % that turn into 'killers' of innocents...

 

[blaxshep]

If you are talking about the lack of prosecutions of people who lied on background checks, law enforcement see that as a bad use of resources because in order to convict them of lieing on a background check, you need to proove that the suspect actually lied on the background check.

So it is a poor use of resources to prove someone committed a felony because you have to prove it?

Yea, because it won't take any resources or proof to convict someone of trafficking.

 

[Arbo]

burr amendment fails. there is not a majority in the senate that gives a crap about military members.

The over 10 round mag ban amendment up now.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Most of them are.

You think it is ok to send them over to get shot up defending your freedoms but it's not ok for them to enjoy the same freedoms they provided for you when they return?

if these veterans can prove that they have no PTSD or have it under control and if their docters also agree, then ability to own guns is not a issue.

 

[MMC]

None of them where constitutional and the families of Newtown and Aurora have no bearing on my rights. The same applies to you.



I summon the rights of the people. :shrug:

I summon the 2nd.....that which they cannot get around. No Infringement with Exclamation Points!!!!! :2razz:

 

[TurtleDude]

If you are talking about the lack of prosecutions of people who lied on background checks, law enforcement see that as a bad use of resources because in order to convict them of lieing on a background check, you need to proove that the suspect actually lied on the background check.

My that is funny

some one swears on an affidavit they don' t have a felony or they are not under indictment (those two grounds are the majority of the reasons for denials-over one million) and they do

that is perjury pure and simple

end of story

 

[AlabamaPaul]

burr amendment fails. there is not a majority in the senate that gives a crap about military members.

The over 10 round mag ban amendment up now.

That amendment will go down in flames as well...

 

[Unitedwestand13]

I summon the 2nd.....that which they cannot get around. No Infringement with Exclamation Points!!!!! :2razz:

Unless you count the ban on machine guns, the gun control act of 1968, the national firearms act, and every one of the gun laws on the books.

 

[Henrin]

if these veterans can prove that they have no PTSD or have it under control and if their docters also agree, then ability to own guns is not a issue.

As long as they get "approval" to exercise their rights. Absurd.

 

[AlabamaPaul]

Unless you count the ban on machine guns, the gun control act of 1968, the national firearms act, and every one of the gun laws on the books.

There is no ban on automatic weapons. They are just more difficult to obtain...

 

[TurtleDude]

So it is a poor use of resources to prove someone committed a felony because you have to prove it?

Yea, because it won't take any resources or proof to convict someone of trafficking.

as if a sting to get someone to sell you a gun without a bgc is costs less resources than merely getting a 4473 where someone was denied because they lied

remember folks-if YOU ADMIT YOU CANNOT OWN THE GUN the BGC IS NOT DONE

if you are RIGHTFULLY DENIED IT MEANS YOU LIED