Sen. Bob Menendez charged with conspiracy to act as a foreign agent in new indictment

[Rexedgar]

Schumer hasn’t chimed in?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

I heard an interesting take on POTUS about that. Apparently not stepping down is his best leverage to stay out of prison. He can trade stepping down for a lighter sentence or some other lesser charges.

Almost certainly what Santos is working on.

I say shit can both of ‘em before they get the chance.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

That’s still alleged. Innocent until proven guilty.

That’s in court, not in either House.

 

[The AntiDonald]

He won't. They need to start the expulsion process ASAP.

I've seen the senate has rules that a member has to go through the ethics committee before they can start expulsion proceedings. if the committee is as slow as the house committee, we will be graced with a criminal senator for at least another 8-10 months.

 

[Taylor]

It’s a little more than alleged. Being charged means there’s evidence.

"Alleged" doesn't imply "no evidence."

 

[highroller]

"Alleged" doesn't imply "no evidence."

It means there’s enough to convict

 

[Boots]

That’s in court, not in either House.

No, it's still simply alleged. It's not yet been proven.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

No, it's still simply alleged. It's not yet been proven.

You misunderstand. I was referring to the different standards between the courts and Congress.

 

[Metric Mouse]

If the GOP would stand up with the Dems who've already spoken out, he'd be ousted.

Dems won't even introduce a resolution to do so.
They love Menendez. Have since he was first charged with corruption in like 2016. Why would Democrats get rid of him- they keep voting for him?

 

[Boots]

You misunderstand. I was referring to the different standards between the courts and Congress.

I don't misunderstand. You haven't communicated properly. It is still not proven in Congress. It is still only alleged. There has been no trial. Not in congress, not in the courts.

 

[Plasmaball]

He should step down till this is settled.
Same for trump,same for Santos.
Settle your issues..then run again.

 

[Metric Mouse]

I've seen the senate has rules that a member has to go through the ethics committee before they can start expulsion proceedings. if the committee is as slow as the house committee, we will be graced with a criminal senator for at least another 8-10 months.

Menendez was charged with fraud etc. in like 2016 - Dems will use any excuse to not expel him for years.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

I don't misunderstand. You haven't communicated properly. It is still not proven in Congress. It is still only alleged. There has been no trial. Not in congress, not in the courts.

It’s definitely your misunderstanding and ignorance.

A trial in the Senate isn’t a requirement to expel Menendez, or in the lower House for Santos.

 

[Boots]

It’s definitely your misunderstanding and ignorance.

A trial in the Senate isn’t a requirement to expel Menendez, or in the lower House for Santos.

Please point to my post where I indicated it was. I'll wait.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Please point to my post where I indicated it was. I'll wait.

I don't misunderstand. You haven't communicated properly. It is still not proven in Congress. It is still only alleged. There has been no trial. Not in congress, not in the courts.

Your implication is clear, but go ahead and try to explain why/how your previous assertion doesn’t mean what it clearly indicates.

Should be good for a laugh.

 

[Boots]

Your implication is clear, but go ahead and try to explain why/how your previous assertion doesn’t mean what it clearly indicates.

Should be good for a laugh.

What is my implication? That they continue to be mere allegations at this time? Yes. That is not only my implication, but what I outright said. There has been no conviction of any type. Allegations. I even asked another poster what the word was he was looking for that was somewhere between allegations and conviction. There was no response. But at this time the gentleman has not been proven guilty by any standard, merely alleged to have committed certain crimes.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

What is my implication? That they continue to be mere allegations at this time? Yes. That is not only my implication, but what I outright said. There has been no conviction of any type. Allegations. I even asked another poster what the word was he was looking for that was somewhere between allegations and conviction. There was no response. But at this time the gentleman has not been proven guilty by any standard, merely alleged to have committed certain crimes.

Good of you to acknowledge that your assertions are based on bias and ignorance.

No trial is required in the Senate or House.

 

[Blue Dog]

This is the opportunity to lead by example. When elected official gets hammered by such scandals there comes a point where resignation should be inevitable. How many times have republicans been excoriated for refusing to step down and deservedly so.

Sen Menendez should resign forthwith. He is a disgrace to the Senate

 

[NuffSaid]

He should be removed immediately.
If not, the Democrats look exactly like Republicans, protecting criminals.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

He should be removed immediately.
If not, the Democrats look exactly like Republicans, protecting criminals.

The evidence outlined in the indictment is damning.

 

[NuffSaid]

The evidence outlined in the indictment is damning.

Schumer better get his ass off the seat and begin pushing for Menendez's ouster or resignation.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Schumer better get his ass off the seat and begin pushing for Menendez's ouster or resignation.

Schumer’s silence doesn’t inspire any confidence that he’ll do anything.

 

[Boots]

Good of you to acknowledge that your assertions are based on bias and ignorance.

No trial is required in the Senate or House.

Reading is fundamental. I've merely asserted that there are allegations. That is it. I've never asserted that a trial is necessary for anything. But that doesn't magically change allegations into something else.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Reading is fundamental.

So’s honesty. You should give it a try.

I've merely asserted that there are allegations.

It isn’t for you to assert what is already an established fact.

You have clearly, to any literate person reading your post, implied that you believe that a trial in Congress is required before expelling a member.

It is still not proven in Congress. It is still only alleged. There has been no trial. Not in congress, not in the courts.

 

[Boots]

So’s honesty. You should give it a try.

It isn’t for you to assert what is already an established fact.

You have clearly, to any literate person reading your post, implied that you believe that a trial in Congress is required before expelling a member.

No, I haven’t. Not even close.