Seattle protesters storm City Hall, demand mayor resign after driving police out of area, declaring

[Jack Fabulous]

Seattle protesters storm City Hall, demand mayor resign after driving police out of area, declaring autonomous zone | Fox News

Hundreds of protesters, aided by a sympathetic City Council member, stormed Seattle's City Hall Tuesday night to demand the mayor's resignation, just days after seizing a six-block downtown zone that includes a shuttered police precinct.


Demonstrators remained peaceful, without reports of violence or injuries, but are pushing Mayor Jenny Durkan to step down if she refuses to defund the city's police department.

"Defund". That means "disband", "get rid of", "do away with". For all practical purposes it means no more cops on the street. No more cops to respond to 9-11 calls. No more cops to investigate crimes. No more cops enforcing traffic laws. No more cops AT ALL.

Part of me half wishes that one of these mayors would capitulate just so all of these fools could actually experience the absolute hell that would follow such an action but the human side of me knows how many innocent people would be hurt, maimed, and killed.

Cooler heads need to prevail. There are much needed reforms in policy, training, and accountability which SHOULD be the focus right now. These people are ****ing nuts and are only going to screw up an opportunity to achieve those reforms if they keep up with this nonsense.

 

[swing_voter]

Seattle protesters storm City Hall, demand mayor resign after driving police out of area, declaring autonomous zone | Fox News



"Defund". That means "disband", "get rid of", "do away with". For all practical purposes it means no more cops on the street. No more cops to respond to 9-11 calls. No more cops to investigate crimes. No more cops enforcing traffic laws. No more cops AT ALL.

Part of me half wishes that one of these mayors would capitulate just so all of these fools could actually experience the absolute hell that would follow such an action but the human side of me knows how many innocent people would be hurt, maimed, and killed.

Cooler heads need to prevail. There are much needed reforms in policy, training, and accountability which SHOULD be the focus right now. These people are ****ing nuts and are only going to screw up an opportunity to achieve those reforms if they keep up with this nonsense.

Defund means to reduce their budget. Seattle probably has a police budget of over a $billion per year. Defunding that would mean cutting a $million or two off the top.

Disbanding means to abolish.

 

[Jack Fabulous]

Defund means to reduce their budget. Seattle probably has a police budget of over a $billion per year. Defunding that would mean cutting a $million or two off the top.

Disbanding means to abolish.

No. Defund means to cease funding.

defund
[dēˈfənd]
VERB
US

prevent from continuing to receive funds.

There is no "reduced". These people want "no more police". Period.

 

[HumblePi]

Seattle protesters storm City Hall, demand mayor resign after driving police out of area, declaring autonomous zone | Fox News



"Defund". That means "disband", "get rid of", "do away with". For all practical purposes it means no more cops on the street. No more cops to respond to 9-11 calls. No more cops to investigate crimes. No more cops enforcing traffic laws. No more cops AT ALL.

Part of me half wishes that one of these mayors would capitulate just so all of these fools could actually experience the absolute hell that would follow such an action but the human side of me knows how many innocent people would be hurt, maimed, and killed.

Cooler heads need to prevail. There are much needed reforms in policy, training, and accountability which SHOULD be the focus right now. These people are ****ing nuts and are only going to screw up an opportunity to achieve those reforms if they keep up with this nonsense.

NO, "defund" in no way means "disband", "get rid of", "do away with". Your ignorance on the de-funding of police is staggering. It means giving cops less money to buy military grade armor. It means diverting those funds for social programs that will help the impoverished communities. It means supporting programs for youths, for mental health services, and public health service programs. It does not in any way mean to do away with police.

 

[washunut]

Defund means to reduce their budget. Seattle probably has a police budget of over a $billion per year. Defunding that would mean cutting a $million or two off the top.

Disbanding means to abolish.

Please check a dictionary. Defund has a different meaning than reduce funding. Say what you mean.

 

[PoS]

 

[Rickeroo]

Seattle protesters storm City Hall, demand mayor resign after driving police out of area, declaring autonomous zone | Fox News



"Defund". That means "disband", "get rid of", "do away with". For all practical purposes it means no more cops on the street. No more cops to respond to 9-11 calls. No more cops to investigate crimes. No more cops enforcing traffic laws. No more cops AT ALL.

Part of me half wishes that one of these mayors would capitulate just so all of these fools could actually experience the absolute hell that would follow such an action but the human side of me knows how many innocent people would be hurt, maimed, and killed.

Cooler heads need to prevail. There are much needed reforms in policy, training, and accountability which SHOULD be the focus right now. These people are ****ing nuts and are only going to screw up an opportunity to achieve those reforms if they keep up with this nonsense.

Thankfully, the communists are still permitting the capitalists to self-segregate, at least for now. I'll add Seattle to my growing list of "no go zones" - Baltimore, Detroit, Minneapolis.

 

[Grandpappy]

NO, "defund" in no way means "disband", "get rid of", "do away with". Your ignorance on the de-funding of police is staggering. It means giving cops less money to buy military grade armor. It means diverting those funds for social programs that will help the impoverished communities. It means supporting programs for youths, for mental health services, and public health service programs. It does not in any way mean to do away with police.

And you aren't for open borders, and you support the 2nd amendment, right?

 

[Anagram]

No. Defund means to cease funding.



There is no "reduced". These people want "no more police". Period.

These people may not be using the dictionary definition. I have definitely see some people say they should be abolished entirely, but I've also seen a lot people praise defunding the police and then immediately describe something that is not completely defunding it.

 

[dcsports]

These people may not be using the dictionary definition. I have definitely see some people say they should be abolished entirely, but I've also seen a lot people praise defunding the police and then immediately describe something that is not completely defunding it.

Many Democrats are trying to 'reframe' or 'redefine' the term so that it doesn't sound so ridiculous. This is becoming amusing, because you have the fringe like AOC complaining about democrats trying to water down the message.

 

[HumblePi]

No. Defund means to cease funding.



There is no "reduced". These people want "no more police". Period.

It absolutely does not mean to 'stop funding' police, no. You're listening to hyper hysterical Tucker Carlson way too much. We were continuing to boost funding for police and give them more authority while we were simultaneously slashing spending on key social services. That needs to end.

Taking some money from a police department’s budget, and using it to create more affordable housing, or to fund mental health services, would create a community safety net better suited to respond to situations such as someone having a mental health crisis in public, rather than an armed officer. The police could then focus on more serious crimes.

 

[HumblePi]

And you aren't for open borders, and you support the 2nd amendment, right?

Is this your weak attempt to derail this thread? Nobody ever wanted open borders, not even Hillary Clinton, no matter what the right side of your brain tells you.

 

[Mycroft]

Seattle protesters storm City Hall, demand mayor resign after driving police out of area, declaring autonomous zone | Fox News



"Defund". That means "disband", "get rid of", "do away with". For all practical purposes it means no more cops on the street. No more cops to respond to 9-11 calls. No more cops to investigate crimes. No more cops enforcing traffic laws. No more cops AT ALL.

Part of me half wishes that one of these mayors would capitulate just so all of these fools could actually experience the absolute hell that would follow such an action but the human side of me knows how many innocent people would be hurt, maimed, and killed.

Cooler heads need to prevail. There are much needed reforms in policy, training, and accountability which SHOULD be the focus right now. These people are ****ing nuts and are only going to screw up an opportunity to achieve those reforms if they keep up with this nonsense.

Actually, they didn't "storm" city hall, they were let in by one of the City Council members.

BREAKING: Councilmember Uses Key to Allow Protesters and Rioters Into Seattle City Hall

However, the Seattle government IS allowing Antifa free rein in their city.

Antifa Activists Take Over Six City Blocks in Seattle Washington – Create Lawless “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone”… | The Last Refuge

Here are their demands: THE DEMANDS OF THE COLLECTIVE BLACK VOICES AT FREE CAPITOL HILL TO THE GOVERNMENT OF SEATTLE, WASHINGTON

 

[Jack Fabulous]

NO, "defund" in no way means "disband", "get rid of", "do away with". Your ignorance on the de-funding of police is staggering. It means giving cops less money to buy military grade armor. It means diverting those funds for social programs that will help the impoverished communities. It means supporting programs for youths, for mental health services, and public health service programs. It does not in any way mean to do away with police.

Instead of ignorantly bloviating, you should listen to what the people currently occupying this area are actually saying.

 

[Cardinal]

Seattle protesters storm City Hall, demand mayor resign after driving police out of area, declaring autonomous zone | Fox News



"Defund". That means "disband", "get rid of", "do away with". For all practical purposes it means no more cops on the street. No more cops to respond to 9-11 calls. No more cops to investigate crimes. No more cops enforcing traffic laws. No more cops AT ALL.

Part of me half wishes that one of these mayors would capitulate just so all of these fools could actually experience the absolute hell that would follow such an action but the human side of me knows how many innocent people would be hurt, maimed, and killed.

Cooler heads need to prevail. There are much needed reforms in policy, training, and accountability which SHOULD be the focus right now. These people are ****ing nuts and are only going to screw up an opportunity to achieve those reforms if they keep up with this nonsense.

What does defunding in this instance entail, exactly? I'm not looking for your interpretation of what you think it means, but which specific measures the protesters are demanding.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

No. Defund means to cease funding.



There is no "reduced". These people want "no more police". Period.

you are wrong on this

 

[Jack Fabulous]

It absolutely does not mean to 'stop funding' police, no. You're listening to hyper hysterical Tucker Carlson way too much. We were continuing to boost funding for police and give them more authority while we were simultaneously slashing spending on key social services. That needs to end.

Taking some money from a police department’s budget, and using it to create more affordable housing, or to fund mental health services, would create a community safety net better suited to respond to situations such as someone having a mental health crisis in public, rather than an armed officer. The police could then focus on more serious crimes.

Again, stop speaking from a position of ignorance.

THE DEMANDS OF THE COLLECTIVE BLACK VOICES AT FREE CAPITOL HILL TO THE GOVERNMENT OF SEATTLE, WASHINGTON

Demand NUMBER ONE.

Given the historical moment, we’ll begin with our demands pertaining to the Justice System.

The Seattle Police Department and attached court system are beyond reform. We do not request reform, we demand abolition. We demand that the Seattle Council and the Mayor defund and abolish the Seattle Police Department and the attached Criminal Justice Apparatus. This means 100% of funding, including existing pensions for Seattle Police. At an equal level of priority we also demand that the city disallow the operations of ICE in the city of Seattle.

Now stop playing the fool, please.

 

[Gondwanaland]

Seattle protesters storm City Hall, demand mayor resign after driving police out of area, declaring autonomous zone | Fox News



"Defund". That means "disband", "get rid of", "do away with". For all practical purposes it means no more cops on the street. No more cops to respond to 9-11 calls. No more cops to investigate crimes. No more cops enforcing traffic laws. No more cops AT ALL.

Part of me half wishes that one of these mayors would capitulate just so all of these fools could actually experience the absolute hell that would follow such an action but the human side of me knows how many innocent people would be hurt, maimed, and killed.

Cooler heads need to prevail. There are much needed reforms in policy, training, and accountability which SHOULD be the focus right now. These people are ****ing nuts and are only going to screw up an opportunity to achieve those reforms if they keep up with this nonsense.

Lol, don't worry it looks like their little Autonomous Zone won't last very long, here's the latest tweet by one of these twits:

 

[Jack Fabulous]

you are wrong on this

I am right on this...

THE DEMANDS OF THE COLLECTIVE BLACK VOICES AT FREE CAPITOL HILL TO THE GOVERNMENT OF SEATTLE, WASHINGTON

Demand NUMBER ONE...

The Seattle Police Department and attached court system are beyond reform. We do not request reform, we demand abolition. We demand that the Seattle Council and the Mayor defund and abolish the Seattle Police Department and the attached Criminal Justice Apparatus. This means 100% of funding, including existing pensions for Seattle Police. At an equal level of priority we also demand that the city disallow the operations of ICE in the city of Seattle.

It's time to be honest and stop denying what is in plain view of EVERYONE.

 

[Jack Fabulous]

What does defunding in this instance entail, exactly? I'm not looking for your interpretation of what you think it means, but which specific measures the protesters are demanding.

THE DEMANDS OF THE COLLECTIVE BLACK VOICES AT FREE CAPITOL HILL TO THE GOVERNMENT OF SEATTLE, WASHINGTON

Demand NUMBER ONE:

The Seattle Police Department and attached court system are beyond reform. We do not request reform, we demand abolition. We demand that the Seattle Council and the Mayor defund and abolish the Seattle Police Department and the attached Criminal Justice Apparatus. This means 100% of funding, including existing pensions for Seattle Police. At an equal level of priority we also demand that the city disallow the operations of ICE in the city of Seattle

Is that clear enough?

 

[Hatuey]

Imagine all the small government conservatives having a problem with defunding a part of the government.



Ja sam Baba Yaga [emoji328]

 

[apdst]

NO, "defund" in no way means "disband", "get rid of", "do away with". Your ignorance on the de-funding of police is staggering. It means giving cops less money to buy military grade armor. It means diverting those funds for social programs that will help the impoverished communities. It means supporting programs for youths, for mental health services, and public health service programs. It does not in any way mean to do away with police.

That's exactly what they want so the can institute mob rule.

 

[apdst]

Imagine all the small government conservatives having a problem with defunding a part of the government.



Ja sam Baba Yaga [emoji328]

Imagine all the pro-gun control Liberals wanting to abolish law enforcement.

 

[Cardinal]

THE DEMANDS OF THE COLLECTIVE BLACK VOICES AT FREE CAPITOL HILL TO THE GOVERNMENT OF SEATTLE, WASHINGTON

Demand NUMBER ONE:



Is that clear enough?

Since that demand is obviously not feasible, it looks to me like an attempt to move the Overton window.

 

[Hatuey]

Imagine all the pro-gun control Liberals wanting to abolish law enforcement.

Law enforcement has guns, and many agencies have had widespread corruption cases - abolishing law enforcement is gun control as well.

We do not need to imagine that one.



Ja sam Baba Yaga [emoji328]