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No one is stopping you emigrating away, if England gets so bad.
It would also close Wales and Irelands too. Stormont and whatever Wales calls theirs.
Saving an enormous amount of money for everyone in what is in essence a fifth wheel operation. A bureaucratic replication of existing and operating governmental structures.
Outside of that, not much.
Continued mewling and wailing from assorted separatist movements, who lets face it are never going to stop mewling and wailing whatever anyone does.
In short I expect it to carry on just as it did before they were built. Have they added anything? other than a few billion extra in debt for our children to repay? No. Just more dissent. An extra bunch of idiots arguing over the same decisions.
close our parliament and no british soldier or british establishment will be safe that is not a threat that is a reality you would need to put troops on the street and they would go home in body bags
Can we all calm down? Talk of civil war and murdering MPs on the other thread and now shooting British soldiers here.
Ridiculous... it isn't going to happen.
Indeed !!!:thumbs:Can we all calm down?
if they close down our parliament ... don't bet against it
I'll have my pick of the dirt cheap unsellable French or Spanish expat ghetto housing when the hundreds of thousands of British pensioners who are no longer entitled to free healthcare or pension increases swarm back to Britain.
I never said anything about a veto, I just said Spain wouldn't make it easy. Take this article which was linked as a reply to the tweet you linked; Scotland would be be at back of queue to join EU if it becomes independent, says Spanish foreign minister | The IndependentSpain has already said they wouldn't veto our membership ... leading figures around EU stated Scotland would be fast tracked
Can we all calm down? Talk of civil war and murdering MPs on the other thread and now shooting British soldiers here.
Ridiculous... it isn't going to happen.
I never said anything about a veto, I just said Spain wouldn't make it easy. Take this article which was linked as a reply to the tweet you linked; Scotland would be be at back of queue to join EU if it becomes independent, says Spanish foreign minister | The Independent
If Scotland became an independent country they would certainly be able to (re)join the EU. I'm only challenging the ideas that it would be automatic, fast-tracked or without difficulties and compromises. In fact, it'd be a lot like Brexit in that aspect.
Who's going to close down the Scottish parliament? Why introduce a straw man into this?
Good for the Tories. Well done.
There are those that if you give an inch would take a mile. To them I offer nothing at all. No mercy, no deals. I will not be reasonable, because they will use that against me and not be reasonable in return.
Not everyone is honest or honourable. Respect them for what they are.
Over half the Scots are my countrymen. I will support them. The other Scots? A secondary concern.
There's no reason it would be specifically fast tracked. There are certainly elements of the process which will be straight forwards for Scotland to meet but that's not the same as anyone in the EU being willing or able to rush the who process through.I see no reason why they wouldn't be fast tracked. They are in compliance with most EU regs already.
Sturgeon calls for second independence vote - BBC News
Sturgeon calls for a second referendum between Autumn 2018 /2019 spring.
Should be interesting to see how this one goes. I expect them to vote yes this time however if the post Brexit economy does ok then it could go either way. Middle class Scotland may still be reluctant to take the plunge into the unknown.
I know it doesn't seem like that, but I don't think they deliberately do things slowly.There's no reason it would be specifically fast tracked. There are certainly elements of the process which will be straight forwards for Scotland to meet but that's not the same as anyone in the EU being willing or able to rush the who process through.
nor are we trying. The borders are open, and had their been a majority of support for Scottish Independence in Scotland, you would have had it by now.latest poll 48% for Indyref2 vote and 44% against ... you can't keep us in the UK against our will
Of course it has. I residence in the UK, which at this point Scotland is a part of. Moreover, it's a bit like saying Europe has no say on the UK wanting to leave. Totally ridiculous.
It is too great a privilege to live amongst people who want to nation with me.
And in that you would be wrong.I don't think there would be many Scots of whatever stripe that would want to nation with you.
Guto Bebb 'despondent' after Scotland visit
A Wales Office minister has described Scotland as "another country" after a recent trip to Edinburgh.
Aberconwy MP Guto Bebb said he had left feeling "despondent" because it reminded him of Dublin.
That "should be a warning when visiting a city which is a crucial part of the UK", he said.
Scotland's first minister Nicola Sturgeon has announced that she will seek a second referendum on independence.
Mr Bebb, a Conservative party whip, was in the Scottish capital for a British and Irish council meeting.
The meeting brought together the devolved governments from Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, as well as the UK and Irish governments.
Writing in the North Wales Weekly News, Mr Bebb said: "We have a huge amount in common with citizens of the Irish Republic, as we do Scotland," including similar television programmes, popular music and "in many ways a shared literature".
But he said "read their papers, listen to talk shows and watch the news and it's clearly another country".
Mr Bebb said leaving Edinburgh made him feel the same way as he does when leaving Dublin.
"For me Dublin is somewhere which is recognisable but very different."
"That is fine in the context of the capital of an independent country but it should be a warning when visiting a city which is a crucial part of the UK.
He added: "The sense of nationhood in Edinburgh is palpable. For a long time it has been satisfied within the UK.
"Is that changing though? My gut feeling is yes and that should be a cause for regret to all of us."
Secretary of State for Wales, Alun Cairns was challenged about his minister's comments on ITV's Peston on Sunday Programme.
He described them as "speculation in order to develop the debate so that everyone in every part of the UK recognizes that we achieve more together".
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