Schiff: We're not going to revise Democratic memo [W:344]

[haymarket]

Good grief....Do you prefer crayons, and coloring books, or a fluffy bunny when you are this triggered? LOL

Personal insults directed at myself are a rather poor substitute for defending the nation and its people against Russia.

 

[haymarket]

He was quite clear in saying the Nunez memo contained information that would risk our national security if released. This is the guy you believe?


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And how do you know that it will not if read by the right person with the right training who can connect dots and patterns not seen by the rest of us?

 

[haymarket]

You are deep into tin foil hat territory. Calling Trump evil is pretty deluded, saying you disagree with him isn't enough you have to wander into evil when that ought to be reserved for murderers and the like.

Refusing to defend the nation and our people as he is constitutionally mandated to do against a Russian act of war is indeed evil. I am surprised every American patriot would not agree with that assessment.

 

[Anthony60]

And how do you know that it will not if read by the right person with the right training who can connect dots and patterns not seen by the rest of us?

The memo is out. What in it is a national security risk?

 

[haymarket]

The memo is out. What in it is a national security risk?

Untrained people like you and I would not recognize it in many cases.

 

[Anthony60]

Refusing to defend the nation and our people as he is constitutionally mandated to do against a Russian act of war is indeed evil. I am surprised every American patriot would not agree with that assessment.

Any Russian meddling in the election occurred when Trump was a private citizen and Obama was President. Obama refused to defend the nation and our people against a Russian act of war. Evil, by your definition.

 

[OpportunityCost]

Refusing to defend the nation and our people as he is constitutionally mandated to do against a Russian act of war is indeed evil. I am surprised every American patriot would not agree with that assessment.

That assessment is hyperbolic partisan motivated horse****. Congress isn't declaring war, hence your act of war bull**** is also crap. He isn't refusing to defend our nation, the people who actually interfered are being charged. Your post is so knee jerk and so self serving it puts you into tin foil territory.

 

[Anthony60]

Untrained people like you and I would not recognize it in many cases.

Okay, what have trained people pointed out as a risk to national security. Or was Schiff just lying? We know the answer to that.

 

[dcsports]

... Or was Schiff just lying? ...

There's an easy test for that. Were his lips moving?

 

[Plus Ultra]

We don’t know what the Schiff memo says, that’s “classified” information not for public disclosure.

Schiff has repeatedly blasted the Nunes memo for not only causing “lasting damage” with the intelligence community, but also for cherry-picking facts in an effort to protect the White House from the federal investigation. Schiff: 'We're very close to reaching an agreement' with FBI on countermemo | TheHill

We’ve all seen the Nunes memo, there wasn’t much in it that we didn’t already know; we knew the Steele dossier was “opposition research” commissioned by Hillary and the DNC, we knew the FBI had received the dossier and that they had not been able to corroborate it’s allegations. What I didn’t know was that the dossier was the primary evidence adduced by the FBI in support for it’s initial request of a surveillance warrant in FISA court, that this request was renewed 3 times without showing anything in the dossier had been corroborated (which is required), that Steele had expressed a “passionate” determination to oppose Trump, and that the FISA court was not adequately apprised of the dossier’s evident tendentiousness (which is also required).

With no greater specificity, we can only presume that Schiff finds all of this is “cherry-picked”, his rebuttal must show the FBI presented the FISA court with dossier corroborating evidence, that the FBI in fact did inform the FISA court this dossier was opposition research, told the court Steele was paid by Hillary and the DNC, and that he expressed a strong bias against Trump.

Thus Schiff’s memo must include the evidence the FBI presented the FISA court to corroborate Steele’s dossier and it must document how the court was specifically informed of the character of this dossier and it’s author’s views. Maybe Schiff’s memo does all this, if it only presented the transcript of the FBI’s allocutions explaining the dossier’s funding, that it was “opposition research” and that Steele was strongly opposed to Trump, it would suffice and we wouldn’t need to know what specific corroborating evidence the FBI presented (just that some was).

 

[haymarket]

Any Russian meddling in the election occurred when Trump was a private citizen and Obama was President. Obama refused to defend the nation and our people against a Russian act of war. Evil, by your definition.

And if everything you said is correct - how does that excuse Trump for refusing to do anything now ?

 

[haymarket]

That assessment is hyperbolic partisan motivated horse****. Congress isn't declaring war, hence your act of war bull**** is also crap. He isn't refusing to defend our nation, the people who actually interfered are being charged. Your post is so knee jerk and so self serving it puts you into tin foil territory.

The Mueller indictment described the Russian information effort as WAR. Take it up with them.

Trump has steadfastly for over a year refused ot accept that Russian interfered in our election process and did it to help him get elected. And now he refuses to do anything about it.

That is one step short of treason.

And all the personal vitriol directed against me does not change that reality.

 

[haymarket]

Okay, what have trained people pointed out as a risk to national security. Or was Schiff just lying? We know the answer to that.

The FBI and Justice Department have stated that the Nunes memo should not be released for those very reasons. They are trained and intelligence professionals who read the Nunes memo and made that assessment.

 

[Anthony60]

And if everything you said is correct - how does that excuse Trump for refusing to do anything now ?

We know Obama did nothing in the last election. We don't know that Trump is doing the same for the next election. And, since we this Russian interference is exposed, clearly something is being done. We've already uncovered one of their operatives, Michael Moore.

 

[Anthony60]

The FBI and Justice Department have stated that the Nunes memo should not be released for those very reasons. They are trained and intelligence professionals who read the Nunes memo and made that assessment.

And that turned out to be a load of crap.

 

[OpportunityCost]

The Mueller indictment described the Russian information effort as WAR. Take it up with them.

Trump has steadfastly for over a year refused ot accept that Russian interfered in our election process and did it to help him get elected. And now he refuses to do anything about it.

That is one step short of treason.

And all the personal vitriol directed against me does not change that reality.

Last I checked the DOJ doesn't declare war.

There still is no proof they did it to get him elected. Undermining confidence in our institutions seems to be their goal.

There is that hyperbolic mental masturbation, again. Feels good, isn't very productive.

Stop playing that card, I am attacking your POSTS, quit whining and crying about it. If you can't handle your arguments being challenged maybe politics isn't for you.

 

[haymarket]

We know Obama did nothing in the last election. We don't know that Trump is doing the same for the next election. And, since we this Russian interference is exposed, clearly something is being done. We've already uncovered one of their operatives, Michael Moore.

Trump has done nothing but deny - deny - deny and the amount of evidence about the Russian interference is far far greater than it was when Obama could have acted.

I agree that Obama did not do enough. He should have done much more especially in warning the nation that the Russians wanted them to vote for Trump. Obviously Obama made a political decision and it bit the nation in the ass.

So why does Trump refuse to confront Russian over the past year and why does he continue to protect Putin?

 

[haymarket]

And that turned out to be a load of crap.

Neither you nor I have the intelligence skills or training to make that judgment.

 

[haymarket]

Last I checked the DOJ doesn't declare war.

There still is no proof they did it to get him elected. Undermining confidence in our institutions seems to be their goal.

The DOJ did not declare war. Its silly to pretend otherwise.

Our intelligence services report and the federal indictments stated quite clearly that it was to help Trump get elected. And they succeeded and Trump knows that is acting accordingly serving his Russian allies.

 

[Conservative]

Because it makes Trump, his campaign and the Nunes memo look stupid beyond belief and shows they were intellectually dishonest in the extreme.

The people who are truly looking stupid are the ones continuing to promote this witch hunt in total denial over losing an election. Let's let Obama answer this for you

"There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections, in part because they’re so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved,” Obama said.

That means that people like you truly aren't serious and always blame someone else for your own failures, your own mistakes, your own poor choices, and the loss of elections. Keep it up and keep losing elections.

 

[haymarket]

The people who are truly looking stupid are the ones continuing to promote this witch hunt in total denial over losing an election. Let's let Obama answer this for you



That means that people like you truly aren't serious and always blame someone else for your own failures, your own mistakes, your own poor choices, and the loss of elections. Keep it up and keep losing elections.

Is this your own straw man or are you actually citing a person who said the election was rigged.......... besides Trump that is?

 

[Anthony60]

Trump has done nothing but deny - deny - deny and the amount of evidence about the Russian interference is far far greater than it was when Obama could have acted.

I agree that Obama did not do enough. He should have done much more especially in warning the nation that the Russians wanted them to vote for Trump. Obviously Obama made a political decision and it bit the nation in the ass.

So why does Trump refuse to confront Russian over the past year and why does he continue to protect Putin?

You are confused. The Russians did not support any candidate, they just wanted to cause chaos. Why do you think they held both pro Trump and anti Trump rallies?

 

[Conservative]

Is this your own straw man or are you actually citing a person who said the election was rigged.......... besides Trump that is?

The election being rigged is nothing more than leftwing talking points and throwing a tantrum over losing. Accept responsibility that you ran a flawed candidate following a failed presidency. Keep diverting from that reality and the fact that Illegals, felons, dead people, and people voting in multiple states did happen. That is the real fraud which you want to ignore just like you ignore the economic results being generated after Trump took office.

The American electorate that was so smart in voting for Obama twice now all of a sudden was stupid in voting for Trump?? That is liberal arrogance and failure to accept responsibility for anything.

 

[haymarket]

The election being rigged is nothing more than leftwing talking points and throwing a tantrum over losing.

Other than Trump - who said the election was rigged?

 

[Conservative]

Other than Trump - who said the election was rigged?

The popular vote is some states was indeed rigged as California, NY, and parts of Illinois allowed actual voter fraud to take place but fortunately the Electoral College got it right, what you continue to want to ignore is the Congressional, state, and local election results which isn't surprising because that is what you always do blame someone else for your poor choices and mistakes