Schiff gets to the heart of the Mueller report

[OscarLevant]

Trump said "...I'm ****ed", well, that crow has definitely come home to roost

 

[Kobie]

Schiff's absolutely right. When the wingnuts are using the "you can't use the letter of the law to disparage our guy," they're ignoring a bunch of years of historical precedent regarding how a president should conduct himself.

Bill Clinton was impeached, unsuccessfully, for FAR LESS than Trump has been implicated for.

The right wing is ethically bankrupt. **** these sycophantic douchebags.

 

[Bullseye]

Trump said "...I'm ****ed", well, that crow has definitely come home to roost

Of course the rest of the quote was that Trump was worried that the investigate would hamper his Presidency and delay the times he wanted to do. Minor detail.

 

[Bullseye]

Schiff's absolutely right. When the wingnuts are using the "you can't use the letter of the law to disparage our guy," they're ignoring a bunch of years of historical precedent regarding how a president should conduct himself.

Bill Clinton was impeached, unsuccessfully, for FAR LESS than Trump has been implicated for.

The right wing is ethically bankrupt. **** these sycophantic douchebags.

LOL, except there was actual EVIDENCE Clinton lied to Congress and attempted to obstruct justice. That little factor is missing in Trump's case.

 

[Mongidig]

Trump said "...I'm ****ed", well, that crow has definitely come home to roost

Trump was talking about his presidency regarding his comment. Past Presidents who went through investigations like this found it difficult to conduct business. Lets not stop at the headlines fellas!

Repeat after me...CONTEXT!

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

Of course the rest of the quote was that Trump was worried that the investigate would hamper his Presidency and delay the times he wanted to do. Minor detail.

Ohh....that's why he said, "“Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m ****ed,” Got it.

 

[Mongidig]

Nobody besides Brennan and Maddow have come out looking more stupid than Schiff!

 

[Mongidig]

Trump said "...I'm ****ed", well, that crow has definitely come home to roost

He sounds like he is trying out to replace Frank Underwood in House of Cards.

 

[Xelor]

Trump was talking about his presidency regarding his comment. Past Presidents who went through investigations like this found it difficult to conduct business. Lets not stop at the headlines fellas!

Repeat after me...CONTEXT!

Red:
POTUSes "who went through investigations like this" -- presumably an FBI investigation[SUP]1[/SUP] into the POTUS himself -- number, at best, two: Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton.

• The OLC opinion that makes a POTUS above the law was written during the Nixon presidency (in 1973 prior to Agnew's resignation from the V-presidency); but more to the point, the Watergate investigation commenced prior to, at the latest, June 1972, which predated Nixon's re-election. That investigation didn't appear to hinder Nixon's ability to "conduct business" (see: Nixon daily diary) at least the People's business, which is the business of the POTUS and the only business a POTUS is emplaced to conduct.
  • August 1972 --> GOP nominates Nixon for a second term
  • October 1972 --> Endorsed and ushered into law federal revenue sharing legislation.
  • October 1972 --> After having founded the EPA, Nixon signed comprehensive bill to regulate pesticides.
  • October 1972 --> Expansion of Social Security and 59 other pieces of legislation
  • October 1972 and later presidential business Nixon conducted includes the:
    • 1972 Noise Control Act,
    • 1972 Marine Mammal Protection Act,
    • 1973 Endangered Species Act,
    • 1974 Safe Drinking Water Act, and multiple
    • Executive Orders
  • January 1973 --> Paris Peace Accords (Yes, Nixon got this done, but he'd previously attempted to scuttle the Vietnam peace process.)
  • May 1973 --> Nixon Price controls
  • June 1973 --> Declares price freeze (See also: "Remembering Nixon’s Wage and Price Controls")
  • October 1973 --> Selected a new VP and got him confirmed by the Senate
  • November 1973 --> Energy Emergency address to the nation.
    • Note, that address was a policy address, not partisan/political campaign "stream of consciousness" divisive babbling, which, be it on Twitter or elsewhere, other than his SOTU speeches, comprise the bulk of Trump's public utterances.
  • April 1974 --> Increased the minimum wage.
• Clinton and bothered to fulfil their duty to become fully informed about the matters upon which they must decide.
  • I'm not going to enumerate some of Clinton's accomplishments as POTUS, but I will note that the Whitewater Investigation began in January 1994, one year after Clinton took office and ended in November 1998. To see what "business of the presidency, of governance Clinton completed (regardless of your normative view of his having done them), doing so with four years of budget surpluses (1998 to 2001) and gradually yet materially decreasing budget deficits in his first four years, read the following high level documents:
    • A Look at President Clinton's Accomplishments During the First Two Years
    • The Clinton Presidency: Timeline of Major Actions

In light of the above, I find the notion that a POTUS cannot conduct the business of governing while also defending against a criminal investigation is pure poppycock. All the POTUS needs to do is actually devote his days to working -- actually reading and consuming detailed briefings and becoming excellently well-informed on public policy matters -- rather than sleeping late, watching television, focusing on miscellaneous matters that are beneath the office of the POTUS and tweeting all day long (because one learns not when one does the talking), and jaunting away on the weekends to play golf with entertainment celebrities.



Note:

1. Amid the Watergate investigation, Nixon also underwent an IRS investigation that resulted in his having to pay over $450K (~$2.3M in today's dollars) in back taxes and penalties. (See also: "JCT Investigation of Nixon’s Tax Returns")

 

[Excon]

Trump said "...I'm ****ed", well, that crow has definitely come home to roost

[video=youtube_share;eI1u4WKUaC8]https://youtu.be/eI1u4WKUaC8[video]

Schiff for brains is a fool and needs to resign over his unethical behavior.

 

[Oborosen]

Trump said "...I'm ****ed", well, that crow has definitely come home to roost

Really...?

When will the left ****ing grow up?

 

[Oborosen]

LOL, except there was actual EVIDENCE Clinton lied to Congress and attempted to obstruct justice. That little factor is missing in Trump's case.

Something Kobie was well aware of. Which was why he neglected to say such a thing in the first places.

 

[AlphaOmega]

Schiff's absolutely right. When the wingnuts are using the "you can't use the letter of the law to disparage our guy," they're ignoring a bunch of years of historical precedent regarding how a president should conduct himself.

Bill Clinton was impeached, unsuccessfully, for FAR LESS than Trump has been implicated for.

The right wing is ethically bankrupt. **** these sycophantic douchebags.

Are you guys ever going to impeach or just keep whining about it? I can't wait to see your posts when we start throwing these soft coup idiots in jail. That's going to come right before the 2020 election. Enjoy.

 

[haymarket]

Schiff's description of the despicable actions of Trump is just perfect..... UNPATRIOTIC.... IMMORAL .... UNETHICAL. Its just perfection.

 

[humbolt]

Mods? We're gonna need a clean up at post 14. Nobody should see that.

 

[Lesh]

The Report is clear that the Russians attacked our election to help Trump get elected.

The Report is clear that the Trump campaign knew that

The Report is clear that Manafort (Trump Campaign Manager) shared internal RNC polling data with a Russian agent and even discussed the particular states that ended up winning the election for Trump

That's astounding...

And Trumpers keep talking about indictments. Well the fact is that "colluding" in that manner is not illegal. But it is collusion

And Trumpers keep saying "Well Impeach him" knowing full well that GOP Senators would put party over country and protect Trump just as Barr has

 

[Kobie]

LOL, except there was actual EVIDENCE Clinton lied to Congress and attempted to obstruct justice. That little factor is missing in Trump's case.

1. Clinton wasn’t gigged for lying to Congress, it was a grand jury.

2. Trump won’t do anything under oath because his handlers know damn well he’s a complusive liar who can’t help but self-incriminate.

That you support this sleazebag speaks volumes.

 

[Kobie]

Are you guys ever going to impeach or just keep whining about it? I can't wait to see your posts when we start throwing these soft coup idiots in jail. That's going to come right before the 2020 election. Enjoy.

Sure it is. Continue with your most entertaining delusions.

 

[Airyaman]

Of course the rest of the quote was that Trump was worried that the investigate would hamper his Presidency and delay the times he wanted to do. Minor detail.

Trump was obsessed with the investigation. It was purely his choice to focus on tweeting about the investigation almost every day, or saying "no collusion" whenever he could. He could have simply done his job and ignored the investigation, Mueller was very quiet and tight lipped.

But we saw days filled with "executive time" instead, where Grandpa Ranty spent his hours glued to cable television and tweeting out quotes from Fox & Friends.

 

[Moderate Right]

Trump said "...I'm ****ed", well, that crow has definitely come home to roost

Schiff gets to the heart of his partisanship. No president wants to be investigated. What's news about that?

 

[American]

Schiff's absolutely right. When the wingnuts are using the "you can't use the letter of the law to disparage our guy," they're ignoring a bunch of years of historical precedent regarding how a president should conduct himself.

Bill Clinton was impeached, unsuccessfully, for FAR LESS than Trump has been implicated for.

The right wing is ethically bankrupt. **** these sycophantic douchebags.

Considering who you ran for President, that statement is laughable. You actually helped elect Trump by the selection of your candidate, you'll probably do it again by running one of your socialists. Don't kid yourself, the Democrats are as guilty (if not more) of creating this situation as anyone; and we haven't even gotten to the part Obama played in letting his DoJ go completely rogue. It's looks like Barr plans on remedying that latter statement.

 

[Kobie]

Considering who you ran for President, that statement is laughable. You actually helped elect Trump by the selection of your candidate, you'll probably do it again by running one of your socialists. Don't kid yourself, the Democrats are as guilty (if not more) of creating this situation as anyone; and we haven't even gotten to the part Obama played in letting his DoJ go completely rogue. It's looks like Barr plans on remedying that latter statement.

Lol. Barr’s credibility is shot after the lies he told regarding the contents of the Mueller report.

My statement stands. Utterly bankrupt.

The only people “guilty” for the Trump presidency are the morons who voted for that piece of ****. Stop projecting.

 

[Idiometer]

Of course the rest of the quote was that Trump was worried that the investigate would hamper his Presidency and delay the times he wanted to do. Minor detail.

Trump never planned on actually being president. He only ran because he wanted to increase the visibility (and earning ability) of his "brand." He didn't think he would get the GOP nomination. His plan seems to have been to run with the Republicans, lose to someone like Jeb Bush, then run as an independent just to spite him (or whoever the GOP nominated). He had no plans, did no preparation, for the possibility of winning. He's a rank amateur, in way over his head.

Read the Mueller report.

 

[Idiometer]

LOL, except there was actual EVIDENCE Clinton lied to Congress and attempted to obstruct justice. That little factor is missing in Trump's case.

Is it? Have you already read the report?

 

[American]

Lol. Barr’s credibility is shot after the lies he told regarding the contents of the Mueller report.

My statement stands. Utterly bankrupt.

The only people “guilty” for the Trump presidency are the morons who voted for that piece of ****. Stop projecting.

I'll take ten Trumps over one Hillary all day long. She should never have been elected to anything. She makes Bill look like a Eagle Scout.