SC rules on the ACA

[AGENT J]

By a 7-2 rulings the ACA stays.

Ill post the same thing in this thread I did in the other

Good!

the crazy thing is with all the attacks on it, and fighting it every step of the way . .overall it is still a massive success!

its a success and theres so much of it (based on government admin) that is a shit show

thats amazing!



Why not just WORK on the parts that are broken and need improvement . . . .noooo certain congress members want to attack it simply based on team politics

so sad

 

[Luther]

We already know Trump was a failure and a con artist... I'm asking a simple question... Which is a more efficient way to provide healthcare to the population?

Is he a BILLIONAIRE?

Yes or no?

 

[BlueTex]

le sigh, I think you and I are done.

You have no desire to debate in any good faith whatsoever.
Advocate for single payer instead of reliance on some bad law (the ACA)

How many businesses are NOT started because someone needs to stay with a large corporation for healthcare benefits?

 

[BlueTex]

Is he a BILLIONAIRE?

Yes or no?

Daddy's money can take you a long way...

 

[Luther]

We already know Trump was a failure and a con artist... I'm asking a simple question... Which is a more efficient way to provide healthcare to the population?

Which is a more efficient way to provide healthcare to the population?

Its not that SIMPLE

That's why we haven't done it(wink)

Your not a simpleton are you(LOL)?

 

[Slartibartfast]

How many businesses are NOT started because someone needs to stay with a large corporation for healthcare benefits?

One of the reasons I have stayed with my company for 20 years and not gone for a higher paying job is due to my older son's insurance needs, which is a diagnosis that is not 100% guaranteed to be covered if I change jobs. I have probably missed out on an extra 35k/yr for a good period of time.

He is independent now and has his own arrangement (and I have started making my own moves), but yes this employer based stupidity can be a real drag on our economy.

 

[Luther]

Daddy's money can take you a long way...

How much of DADDY'S money?

Hes a multi Billionaire

 

[Cope]

How many businesses are NOT started because someone needs to stay with a large corporation for healthcare benefits?

I don't know, want to show me? I don't feel that businesses need to be involved with healthcare either.

 

[Luther]

Daddy's money can take you a long way...

Thanks for not answering my Yes or No question Tex(LOL)

 

[BlueTex]

Its not that SIMPLE

That's why we haven't done it(wink)

Your not a simpleton are you(LOL)?

It's so complicated that EVERY advanced country in the WORLD has some variation... Stop the bullshit... We all know why conservatives oppose it.... It has NOTHING to do with being complicated..

 

[Jay59]

This is a nothing burger ruling, because it is narrowly on standing.

That said, it's clear the Court wants the issue to go away. ACA is shitty law, but it is the law.

 

[Luther]

It's so complicated that EVERY advanced country in the WORLD has some variation... Stop the bullshit... We all know why conservatives oppose it.... It has NOTHING to do with being complicated..

Every advanced country in the world doesn't have a 13% BLACK population like us right?


You know how Blacks are twice as likely to be on the GOV tit than whites right and are a MINORITY?

 

[BlueTex]

Every advanced country in the world doesn't have a 13% BLACK population like us right?


You know how Blacks are twice as likely to be on the GOV tit than whites right and are a MINORITY?

Don't hold back... just let that racism out... LMAO

 

[swing_voter]

By a 7-2 rulings the ACA stays.

What the Hell?

The trump court didn't come through?



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[Greenbeard]

You got some numbers handy? Total inputs and total outputs will be fine.

Sure, he's the first ten years:

 

[Cope]

Sure, he's the first ten years:

I was looking for something more along the lines of how much it cost vs how much was spent but it looks like that chart is showing that the expected expenditures were lower than predicted.
With and without subsidy is what I am looking for. What I am ultimately trying to get at is what the actual 'cost' was , how much did it affect healthcare costs to others etc.

Where is the balance? Which is ultimately why i think the ACA is a bad law, but i do advocate for a single payer model.

 

[Luther]

Don't hold back... just let that racism out... LMAO

Race card !!!!!(LOL)


Was I right .. Yes or no?

(silence)

 

[Chase Morgan]

By a 7-2 rulings the ACA stays.

TREMENDOUS to see

Always great to see incompetent red states get SMASHED...

 

[RaleBulgarian]

The ACA is doomed to fail on it's own, unless the government continues to heavily subsidize it.

The government will continue to do what is necessary to keep ACA afloat. It isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.

While the Dem's have both legislatures, they ought to really look into single payer UHC

No chance of that happening. While a large percentage of voters do support UHC, more prefer a public health insurance option.

About 7 in 10 Voters Favor a Public Health Insurance Option

A new survey shows more than half of voters are in favor of either a “Medicare for All” single-payer plan or a public health insurance option

morningconsult.com

The best thing Democrats can do now, IMO, is to work on improving ACA.

 

[Greenbeard]

I was looking for something more along the lines of how much it cost vs how much was spent but it looks like that chart is showing that the expected expenditures were lower than predicted.
With and without subsidy is what I am looking for. What I am ultimately trying to get at is what the actual 'cost' was , how much did it affect healthcare costs to others etc.

The cost of the ACA is the value of marketplace spending (subsidies) + new spending on the Medicaid expansion. Both of those were lower than expected because health care cost growth fell more than anticipated. Total Medicaid spending in the first decade actually came in below the no-ACA (i.e., no Medicaid expansion) baseline, which is remarkable.

As for what health care costs others, that's what national health expenditures are: all national spending on health care, all the costs of the American health care system. That came in trillions below the baseline, which obviously failed to anticipate the post-ACA dip in health care cost growth.

 

[justabubba]

Why should health care be profitable?

To attract competent medical talent

 

[BlueTex]

Race card !!!!!(LOL)


Was I right .. Yes or no?

(silence)

Explain how having a population that is 13% black makes universal healthcare "complicated"?

 

[Cope]

Explain how having a population that is 13% black makes universal healthcare "complicated"?

I doubt that the black population alone or at all is what makes it complicated. What makes it complicated is that about half of the country doesnt pay into what would be subsidizing their healthcare (the "poor").

They have no skin in the game so they will use as they see fit and are subsidized to do so.

 

[BlueTex]

I doubt that the black population alone or at all is what makes it complicated. What makes it complicated is that about half of the country doesnt pay into what would be subsidizing their healthcare (the "poor").

They have no skin in the game so they will use as they see fit and are subsidized to do so.

Can you think of a better economic stimulus than to remove the burden and cost of managing and providing health insurance from employers?

 

[gbg3]

Not a surprise at all. Just as I have been expecting since fall.