Why is it that whenever we have a discussion on gay marriage, people who are against it always fall back on "well gays can't have children"! So... the... ****... what if they can't? Be honest with yourselves, how many ****ing people do you think get married in order to have kids? I know for a fact that I got married in order to get ***** 24/7 without having to chase after it. I got lucky. My wife is beautiful even after birth so it's like she never even gave birth to begin with. I know I'm not alone and I'm probably not in the majority, however it's safe to bet that there are millions of people out there who didn't get married in order to have ****ing kids. The kids just appeared the same way the car, mortgage and weird neighbors did.
I'm not interested in changing anyone's mind, CC. Never have been. All I'm here to do is ensure that when you folks stand in front of your Creators you have no capability to say.... "But I didn't know that....."
If you say so. Just make sure they bury you folks with a lot of sunscreen.
I am suggesting that over the LONG-TERM, that there may well be a significant growth in the percentage of homosexual individuals if/when the practice becomes acceptable in society. We do not yet have a large enough sample size/timeline to determine what the potential long-term effects of this sort of change in society might be. Whether the legalization of such practices in Europe is a cause of some of their social ills or a symptom of them is hard to say at this point, but it cannot be denied that the countries which choose to accept it are generally much more Socialist than those that do not.
So if a couple is infertile and uses donor sperm, or adopts, that's wrong too?
But you said it's about children.
But you based that on having children. So you're full of crap on that. You have no rational reason for forbidding gay marriage over child-bearing if you don't also do it for hetero couples.
Sure they are. There are plenty of normal, healthy kids raised by gays, and plenty of completely ****ed up kids raised by straights too.
But see, I accept that people are different and can live their own lives. You don't. That's your problem, and it's only going to lead to even more frustration in your life, because nobody's going to actually listen to you.
I'm far more concerned about you carrying lots of sunscreen and sunglasses when YOU get buried, I have no concerns that I will need none when it's my "time".
Since throughout history, the population percentage of homosexuals has consistently hovered around 4%-7%, you are, as usual, wrong again, with your assertion. See, Tigger, you REALLY need to stop presenting what you post as if they are facts. They are quite the opposite of facts, as is proven pretty much every time.
In a single word.... YES.
No, I said it's about the POTENTIAL for children. Children, just like adults are more often than not, unworthy of the flesh they inhabit or the oxygen they breath after about the age of five.
There is almost always the POTENTIAL for naturally created children in a hetero couple. There is NEVER a POTENTIAL for naturally created children in a same-sex couple
I will agree with the second half of your statement. I cannot say that I have ever encountered anyone who would fit the first half of your statement. The three I've known were all fruity-nutty-crunchy types who ran away like little girls every time someone said "boo" to them.
I don't expect anyone to listen to me. I never have. All I can do is to promote what's RIGHT over what's Wrong. If they make the Wrong choices, that's up to them.
Why is it that whenever we have a discussion on gay marriage, people who are against it always fall back on "well gays can't have children"! So... the... ****... what if they can't? Be honest with yourselves, how many ****ing people do you think get married in order to have kids? I know for a fact that I got married in order to get ***** 24/7 without having to chase after it. I got lucky. My wife is beautiful even after birth so it's like she never even gave birth to begin with. I know I'm not alone and I'm probably not in the majority, however it's safe to bet that there are millions of people out there who didn't get married in order to have ****ing kids. The kids just appeared the same way the car, mortgage and weird neighbors did.
And that makes sense to you...why?
Ah, so you think we should just kill children and forcibly sterilize everyone?
No, Tigger, there is not always potential for natural children in a hetero couple. You need to face reality. Your 90-year-old grandma is not going to get pregnant. A woman who has had a hysterectomy is not going to get pregnant. Period (no pun intended). It's simply not going to happen.
On the other hand, a lesbian could get pregnant any time she wants.
Yet it's true. There are lots of normal people you've never encountered, that's clear from your posts.
Yes, you do expect people to listen to you, otherwise you wouldn't be posting here. And if you think promoting something works when you don't care, you're doing it wrong.
How about because I don't really believe in Free Will all that much. If the Powers want me to be married and have kids they'll make it happen. It's not my place to second-guess them. I may complain that it doesn't turn out the way I want it to, but in the end it's not MY decision to make.
The 90 year old grandma shouldn't be getting married in the first place.
As for the others, stranger things have happened in the history of the world.
Not with her female lover, and without the aid of medical science she isn't.
There are a lot of "normal" people I do not have any interest in ever encountering either.
All I'm doing is providing information. Nothing more. People may choose to do whatever they want with it. That's their issue, not mine.
I'm not being buried. My body will be burned on a pyre. There won't be anything left of me or most of my possessions by the time my funeral is over.
Whatever you say, CC. I would suggest that this nation is as immoral as any in human history, and just getting worse by the day. We've surpassed the "Glories" of Rome and eventually it will be the demise of this nation; and I for one will stand and cheer when it happens.
All I'm doing is providing information. Nothing more. People may choose to do whatever they want with it. That's their issue, not mine.
You know now that you're gonna have to post some Tavern pics at some point.
Legal where? Legal throughout the United States? But I thought that...oh right, nobody takes the Tenth Amendment seriously anymore. Please excuse my forgetfulness.
If you were providing information, I would have little issue with what you are saying. Thing is, you are NOT providing information. You are presenting your opinions disguised as information... and most of what you say, in that context, is MISinformation.
Legal where? Legal throughout the United States? But I thought that...oh right, nobody takes the Tenth Amendment seriously anymore. Please excuse my forgetfulness.
Well, if that's the case, 25+ years without a doubt. Anybody here think Mississippi's gonna go for it this generation?Nobody said this meant it would be a federal statute. The question is simply when will all 50 states legalize it, or the courts rule that all states must recognize gay marriages from other states, or rule that gay marriage is a constitutional right.
Well, if that's the case, 25+ years without a doubt. Anybody here think Mississippi's gonna go for it this generation?
Well, if that's the case, 25+ years without a doubt. Anybody here think Mississippi's gonna go for it this generation?
If the SCOTUS rules that other states must recognize legal marriages from all other states, then it won't matter if any single state doesn't want SSM or not.
Another possibility is that they could rule that anti-SSM laws violate equal protection of the 14th Amendment, and tell states that they must allow same sex couples legal marriage unless they change their marriage laws in such a way that sex is not the limiting factor.
Betcha at least one state will seriously consider that.
I wouldn't say that so much as they reinforced my view that I prefered the idea of being with a girl, and considered the alternative to be quite disgusting. Yes, and for some of us we consider it a badge of honor.
Same as Klansman where Racist with a badge of honor.
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