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Russia Slams Violation of Media Freedoms in Ukraine

Its hard to imagine such a situation. There is still some animosity about our civil war 150+ years ago, but thats nothing like europe, I think.

The difference there is that the whole of USA was in war. Hence the animosity.

In Europe wars were more localized. So you had wars that lasted for centuries between France and England, Deutchland and France, Us and Slavs, etc. But we did had nothing with say Ireland, Suomiland, Norway, Dutch, Belgium, Spain (thus confused why they do not recognize us still), Iceland, Austria, Switzerland, and many others. Hence we should use this Historical opportunity to cooperate with these first and with others later.

That is the difference when viewed Historically between USA and Europe.
 

Nice to see there are some Americans who are immune to such propaganda. I see this has been largely ignored here. You're swimming against the current Dave.
 

Now all you have to do is all a native of these two areas in the link and ask them if they've seen any mercenaries. That is the only thing that will satisfy you. Ah yes. the force is strong within you.

Russia Warns Of American Deaths As Ukraine Crisis Spirals Out Of Control
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To the estimated 1,800 of these Academi mercenaries now operating in Ukraine, this report warns, they have been actively suppressing the popular uprisings in the Russian-speaking regions of Donetsk and Lugansk [see video HERE], but failed to stop these citizens from protesting against the self-proclaimed government in Kiev, most especially in Lugansk where thousands of protesters this afternoon blocked and occupied the regional administration building, hoisting a Russian flag on its top.

Most dangerous to report, this report further warns, is that a Russian diplomat in Kiev has informed the Interfax news agency that 300 more of these mercenaries had arrived there too, and as he stated: “These are soldiers of fortune proficient in combat operations. Most of them had operated under private contracts in Iraq, Afghanistan and other states. Most of them come from the United States.”

Upon these US-backed mercenaries arriving in Kiev, this report continues, they began the mobilization of Ukraine’s depleted military forces (as over a third of them have already pledged their allegiance to Russia) and have begun dispatching in great numbers military trucks, armored personnel carriers, surface-to-air missiles, howitzers, and tanks [see all videos HERE] towards their eastern Russian-speaking regions and Crimea.

Critical to note about the Obama regimes continued aggression towards Russia in its attempt to start a Ukrainian war, this report says, are the American propagandists continuing to assert that Putin “wants to rebuild USSR with Ukraine.”"
 

I get my news from any number of sources. Oddly, I do get most of my info from Western media, but I pay close attention to specific details and notice when those details suddenly disappear as the propaganda offensive escalates.


Source: The New York Times

Of course, as I said, no one is talking about that and you clearly are ignorant of at least the part where they broke into the parliament building. Details best forgotten in the eyes of the Western media.
 
When's the last time you saw some?
I am very involved in the conflict between Russia and Ukraine. I see how the RF uses subordinate to the Kremlin (in Russia now has no independent media) radio TV and internet, against Ukraine. In Russia, even internet subordinated to the Kremlin and the constantly censored.
 
As the press can be as well. So therefore you are essentially advocating the violation of the 1st amendment.
I am for free press. But yesterday the Kremlin replaced all employees an Internet portal "Лента.РУ", one of the largest online news sites in Europe. Now they write only what, that the Kremlin wants. Where are you saw freedom of speech?
 

You're obviously outraged at the Russian, as well. Yes?

Russia Bans Several Websites Critical of Gov't - ABC News
 

Don't think I ever said that mercenaries were not in the area. They've been in every combat zone I've ever been in.

The difference is who is paying them to be there. Blackwater was hired for security. The ones your refering to were hired for unknown reasons with unknown orders. Blackwater breached their contract and exceeded their orders, and those involved were prosecuted for it.

To say that the US has sent mercenaries to Ukraine is a stretch of what can factually be proven. Is it possible? Sure. Is it likely? Not really. The US doesn't work that overtly, this early on in an event like this.
 

http://echo.msk.ru/
tvrain.ru

/links to Russian liberal media outlets...enjoy.

Fallen.
 
So you in favor or censoring materials but you are in favor of "free press"? You cant be both of those...
 
Of course i am and i have been vocally opposed to the Russian authoritarian government.

Then why would one support Russian state propaganda? Seriously, citing RT is basically giving the finger to free press and legitimizing government domination of the media.
 
Then why would one support Russian state propaganda? Seriously, citing RT is basically giving the finger to free press and legitimizing government domination of the media.
Because they are essentially silencing voices in Ukraine right now.. And as well because RT often times reports things that the US MSM does not report and because it also offers another view of conflicts.
 
Because they are essentially silencing voices in Ukraine right now.. And as well because RT often times reports things that the US MSM does not report and because it also offers another view of conflicts.

Perhaps you should link to the private stations that have been shut down in recent days and the WW2 Nazi imagery broadcast on the public stations. Has RT reported that yet?
 
Perhaps you should link to the private stations that have been shut down in recent days and the WW2 Nazi imagery broadcast on the public stations. Has RT reported that yet?
Why are you talking about WW2 and Nazis?
 
I've yet to see any condemnation by you.

Go check just about any thread dealing with Putin, ***** Riot, or Russia's intervention in Crimea.
 
Because they are essentially silencing voices in Ukraine right now.. And as well because RT often times reports things that the US MSM does not report and because it also offers another view of conflicts.

RT is state propaganda. One cannot support it and, at the same time, decry the suppression of press. The suppression of press, and the substitution of state prop, is what RT is all about.

Your position on RT is as stupid as your position on PressTV. PressTV does not give an honest view of domestic issues or local news and it does not give any unique perspective. And neither does RT. Stop falling for dumb crap.
 
RT is state propaganda. One cannot support it and, at the same time, decry the suppression of press. The suppression of press, and the substitution of state prop, is what RT is all about.
Of course they can as several journalists from the outlet have done.

Your position on RT is as stupid as your position on PressTV. PressTV does not give an honest view of domestic issues or local news and it does not give any unique perspective. And neither does RT. Stop falling for dumb crap.
You saying that the US media always gives an "honest view"? :lamo
 
Of course they can as several journalists from the outlet have done.

Even a pig pen has clean spots. That doesn't impress anyone. It's like you'll fall for any BS.

You saying that the US media always gives an "honest view"? :lamo

That's a dumbass strawman, and everyone can see so. It looks like something written by a 5 year old. You should be ashamed.
 
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