..., deliberate wording to paint Universities and Charity Hospitals, and social aid orgs as businesses, is clear. Now, if you could do one more thing, and show where it is that the people that they questioned in this sample was listed, I can place the pieces together for you.
j-mac
What is your evidence? Shall we wait for the results of the election to see?The right wing badly overplayed their card on this issue. And Limbaugh was the center of their disaster.
Well, I don't think so...
Key phrases Boo, in the collection of "negative liberties" that your dear Leader despises.
j-mac
No one is prohibiting them for the free exercise. YOu confuse religion and business as if theya re the same. No clergy has to use contraceptions. No church has to preach the ebenfits of contraceptions. Nor is any establishing a religion in any way. Frankly, telling people what they can and cannot have with their own compensation is more a violation than ahving insurance given the option for everyone working in a business (not a church).
Ok then, what if the Catholic institutions said that they would no longer provide health insurance to any of its employees due to this mandate?
j-mac
What is your evidence? Shall we wait for the results of the election to see?
That's another issue. But more in keeping with their rights. And then they lose all those non-Catholics who work for them. But this is all yet another reason why we should have UHC and not have it attached to employment.
Not going to happen....What Obama, Pelosi, and Reid jammed through in the middle of the night with bribes, and subterfuge is wildly unpopular with the american people as it is, and it isn't even close to UHC. But you do agree that it is an employers prerogative to carry, or not carry health insurance for employees of affiliated institutions then right?
j-mac
J, do you really think anyone will take this silliness seriously? As long as you use such hyperbolic langauge, your posts won't be treated with respsect.
I believe right now an employer can stop using insurance as compensation. The market may make it difficult for institutions like schools and hospitals to do so. But like I said, that is a different issue, and don't try to connect them. Once you give insurance as compensation, that insurance is now mine.
J, do you really think anyone will take this silliness seriously? As long as you use such hyperbolic langauge, your posts won't be treated with respsect.
Where, specifically, was he off the mark?
Start with the entire first sentence. It's hyperbolic to say the least.
Well, not totally...Typically the employer pays a lion share of the actual insurance premium, and the employee participates with a smaller portion of the premium. This is the same principle as you saying because the government grants a loan to a particular entity that they have a say in what goes on in that business. Insurance is a benefit Joe, you are NOT entitled to it. If you think that forcing the Church to cover something in which the doctrine, and teaching of the Church is against is acceptable, then later when you carry that out to a logical conclusion, and these entities of the Church close up, and are no longer there to pick up the social net slack, then what? I swear, sometimes I think libs would rather cut off their noses to spite their face.
j-mac
US Army Pulls Ads From Rush Limbaugh's Show
"Responding to mounting pressure from veterans groups, the U.S. Army confirmed that they would be joining at least 140 other advertisers in pulling their support from Rush Limbaugh’s radio show."
US Army Pulls Ads From Rush Limbaugh's Show | Truthout
Oh, you mean the fact of how Obamacare was passed?
j-mac
Oh, you mean the fact of how Obamacare was passed?
j-mac
Ah, thinkprogress....beautiful...Podesta, and Soros teaming up to stifle opposition speech....ain't it great?
j-mac
he pays it, not for himself, or because he's a good fellow. He pays it as compensation. Like your paycheck, as part of your salary. As such, it is mine and not his even if he pays all of it. Entitlement was never used or argued. Compensation was the word I used. Don't confuse things because you can't get past the propaganda you listen to.
And not the church. no, the business they ventured into. The church doesn't have to do anything. The schools and hospitals do. There is a difference. And this is the difference the last SC ruling mentioned.
The Obama administration’s ongoing fight with the Catholic Church over religious freedom and the now-infamous contraceptive mandate hasn’t shown any signs of simmering. But now, just weeks after the initial arguments reached a boiling point, a new development is causing some to wonder if the Obama administration is waging a full-scale assault on the religious institution. Why, you ask?
For the first time, the Vatican has found itself on the U.S. State Department’s list of potential money-launderers.
State Department Adds Vatican to Financial Crimes List | Catholic Church | TheBlaze.com
You just can't believe the US Army would pull their ads from the Limbaugh show as 140 other sponsors have done?
Let's check with the Daily Republican -
U.S. Army pulls ads from Limbaugh’s show
No. Re-read it again.
No, I believe it fully....I am laughing at who is behind it....'
j-mac
Start with the entire first sentence. It's hyperbolic to say the least.
"Responding to mounting pressure from veterans groups, the U.S. Army confirmed that they would be joining at least 140 other advertisers in pulling their support from Rush Limbaugh’s radio show."
LOL! Yeah, those veterans groups are a funny bunch! :roll:
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?