Ron Paul Posts Criticism of Censorship ... Shortly Before Facebook Blocks Him

[Tahuyaman]

Turley needs to go back to law school, as a student, and take the required courses on constitutional law. To compare McCarthy, a government official, to private corporations shows that his addled brain has deteriorated to the point where he thinks the 1st Amendment also applies to everyone, not just the government. Will he next start condemning a private business from banning protests on their private property?

Turley isn't the one who needs an education

 

[CLAX1911]

Thanks for proving that not all "killpence" Tweets on Twitter are yet banned.

Too bad we are speaking of Facebook.

and the social media Giants don't have a trust I'm sure.

 

[CLAX1911]

You don't because, well, you can't.

Of course somebody beat me to the punch.

 

[Logophile]

You don't need techie guy to delete your account you can actually delete it

1. Click in the top right of Facebook.
2. Select Settings & Privacy, then click Settings.
3. Click Your Facebook Information in the left column.
4. Click Deactivation and Deletion.
5. Choose Permanently Delete Account, then click Continue to Account Deletion.

You really shouldn't let it sit idle if you have any connection to it at all email IP address whatever. Your name or your photographs. Cyber criminals out there use idle Facebook profiles for all sorts of things you really should delete it.

Same with any sort of social media profile you don't use don't let them sit idle.

Is there any difference between Facebook and this forum?? They won't let me delete an account here. Am I somehow better protected here with an idle account? as opposed to elsewhere? Seriously appreciate your advice about Facebook. I don't want you to have any problems here so if it threatens your "membership," please disregard the question. Thanks!!

 

[CLAX1911]

Is there any difference between Facebook and this forum?? They won't let me delete an account here. Am I somehow better protected here with an idle account? as opposed to elsewhere? Seriously appreciate your advice about Facebook. I don't want you to have any problems here so if it threatens your "membership," please disregard the question. Thanks!!

Yes there's a difference between here and Facebook, the only thing they need from you here is an email address. You can delete email addresses. I doubt you're Avatar name is your real name

 

[dixon01767]

Turley needs to go back to law school, as a student, and take the required courses on constitutional law.

None of his criticism was based upon constitutional law.

 

[dixon01767]

Turley isn't the one who needs an education

He wasn't even making any argument base upon Constitutional law

 

[Logophile]

Yes there's a difference between here and Facebook, the only thing they need from you here is an email address. You can delete email addresses. I doubt you're Avatar name is your real name

Wish you the best. Thanks!!

 

[Logophile]

Yes there's a difference between here and Facebook, the only thing they need from you here is an email address. You can delete email addresses. I doubt you're Avatar name is your real name

Alas, it doesn't work. Appreciate the time. We'll see what the future brings in. Thanks!!

 

[COTO]

They did, they advised him that what took place was a mistake.

Indeed. Only it happened after the ban occurred, and one can't help but wonder whether the swift reversal of the decision owes to the intense and immediate public backlash.

They reversed the decision swiftly, hence I'll give them the benefit of the doubt in the case of Dr. Paul.

However, as another recent example, the site Zero Hedge was kicked off of Facebook under a claim that they had "doxxed" a Chinese scientist, which was a lie. It took several days for their account to be reopened. Weeks later, it was shut down again based on another false claim regarding an article, which took almost a full month to reverse.

I believe their current Facebook and Twitter status are both "active", but their existence in the social media sphere clearly rests on the knife's edge. I have no doubt an army of malcontents is parsing their every word looking for any jot or tittle that can be construed as a "violation", and the censors on social media giants have not demonstrated the restraint or jurisprudence to convince me they're taking the problem seriously.

 

[Tahuyaman]

This scares me to death. This is Ron Paul, the consummate libertarian, being axed for criticism of--of all things--an epidemic of censorship.

Via blogger Jonathan Turley (bold by me):

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Now former Texas congressman Ron Paul, 85, has been blocked from using his Facebook page for unspecified violations of “community standards.” Paul’s last posting was linked to an article on the “shocking” increase of censorship on social media. Facebook then proceeded to block him under the same undefined “community standards” policy.​

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Paul, a libertarian leader and former presidential candidate, has been an outspoken critics of foreign wars and an advocate for civil liberties for decades. He wrote:​

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“With no explanation other than ‘repeatedly going against our community standards,’ @Facebook has blocked me from managing my page. Never have we received notice of violating community standards in the past and nowhere is the offending post identified.”​

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His son is Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) tweeted, “Facebook now considers advocating for liberty to be sedition. Where will it end?”​

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Even before the riot, Democrats were calling for blacklists and retaliation against anyone deemed to be “complicit” with the Trump Administration. We have been discussing the rising threats against Trump supporters, lawyers, and officials in recent weeks from Democratic members are calling for blacklists to the Lincoln Project leading a a national effort to harass and abuse any lawyers representing the Republican party or President Trump. Others are calling for banning those “complicit” from college campuses while still others are demanding a “Truth and Reconciliation Commission” to “hold Trump and his enablers accountable for the crimes they have committed.” Daily Beast editor-at-large Rick Wilson has added his own call for “humiliation,” “incarceration” and even ritualistic suicides for Trump supporters in an unhinged, vulgar column.​

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After the riots, the big tech companies moved to ban and block sites and individuals, including Parler which is the primary alternative to Twitter. Also, a top Forbes editor Randall Lane warned any company that they will be investigated if they hire any former Trump officials.​

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Also (ibid.):

The riots are being used as a license to rollback on free speech and retaliate against conservatives. In the meantime, the silence of academics and many in the media is deafening. Many of those who have spoken for years about the dark period of McCarthyism and blacklisting are either supporting this censorship or remaining silent in the face of it.​

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Please don't let this be you.

The left is daring people to do something about it at this point.

 

[dixon01767]

Indeed. Only it happened after the ban occurred, and one can't help but wonder whether the swift reversal of the decision owes to the intense and immediate public backlash.

They reversed the decision swiftly, hence I'll give them the benefit of the doubt in the case of Dr. Paul.

However, as another recent example, the site Zero Hedge was kicked off of Facebook under a claim that they had "doxxed" a Chinese scientist, which was a lie. It took several days for their account to be reopened. Weeks later, it was shut down again based on another false claim regarding an article, which took almost a full month to reverse.

I believe their current Facebook and Twitter status are both "active", but their existence in the social media sphere clearly rests on the knife's edge. I have no doubt an army of malcontents is parsing their every word looking for any jot or tittle that can be construed as a "violation", and the censors on social media giants have not demonstrated the restraint or jurisprudence to convince me they're taking the problem seriously.

I think the 1000s of current and previous cases of others being doxed on facebook should convince you they haven't taken the problem seriously. ALL these instances of banning from Social Media are revealed as hypocrisy by the abundance of other examples where they are not banned. Jack Dorsey banning NY Post and any reporting of Hunter Bidens laptop because they were hacked, when reports based upon other hacked material is in abundance on twitter..... and the fact that Hunters laptop wasn't acquired through hacking. Blatant, visible hypocrisy.

 

[dixon01767]

The left is daring people to do something about it at this point.

Eliminate Section 230. Craft new Sec 230 protections available to any company wishing to provide an open forum. Leave twitter and facebook free to construct their echo chambers to mold the masses through censorship of objectional material and purging of objectional members.
Companies who want to provide open access to the public and an open forum to communicate, with reasonable limits such as prohibiting violations of law and reasonable limits on decorum applied equally get section 230 protections. Echo chambers molding the masses do not. On the open forums you can get away with condemning Nick Sandmann as a racist bigot, in the echo chambers and media publications you might be sued.

 

[dixon01767]

Listening to Apple Tim Cook saying "we never intended our platform be a replication of the internet"???? I know I only bough my Apple phone believing it would give me access to THE internet, not Apples version of it.

 

[joko104]

Of course he was banned. Any criticism of the plutocrats will get you banned from their platform. You MUST love them - and you MUST agree with everything they want. If not, you're banned.