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Ron DeSantis uses ‘monkey’ to describe Andrew Gillum agenda; Democrats brand it racist

haymarket said:
Your post, as a reply to mine, makes no sense on any level or in any way. This is about right wing racism and you are pedaling as fast as you can trying to make it about your own political obsessions.

And it is not working.
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No, its always been about liberals thinking blacks look like monkeys.
 
Fletch said:
No, its always been about liberals thinking blacks look like monkeys.
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That makes no sense on any level or in any rational way as a reply to the post from me you pretend to be replying to.
 
danarhea said:
Racist? Nah, Democrats are seizing on a very poor choice of words when DeSantis told his audience that Florida would be monkeying up the state if they they voted for his opponent, who happens to be black. But, I do have to say that DeSantis seems to have the mind of a monkey himself to have made such a faux pas here. Yea, this was dumb. He should be feeding his own base, not that of the Democrats. LOL.

Ron DeSantis uses ?monkey? to describe Andrew Gillum agenda; Democrats brand it racist - Sun Sentinel
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I get your point since maybe you are not from the South, but there when they say monkey things up, they are saying mess things up. Take the monkey wrench for instance if you want to ruin a good bolt, use the monkey wrench.
 
Fletch said:
No, its always been about liberals thinking blacks look like monkeys.
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I like to point out that due to their massive crashes to the gate making law upon law, they are not liberals. We republicans are far more liberal since we keep cutting back laws. Also it was Democrats that came up with the looks like a monkey craze. I bet today they wish they never started racism.
 
haymarket said:
Actually it was Ron DeSantis who introduced the comparison with his words just hours after an African American was nominated to oppose him for high office. And this ugly image was in keeping with a long and sordid history of comparing African Americans to apes.
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his words were a common colloquialism as Ive already explained. You then took that common phrase and made it racist.
 
Aberration said:
No. What you saw was mass hysterical approval of fabricating racism.
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Whatever you have to convince yourself of to make it through the night I guess.
 
AlphaOmega said:
his words were a common colloquialism as Ive already explained. You then took that common phrase and made it racist.
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Common? Present a dozen examples of the same phrase used in similar situations then. Lets see evidence of your claim.
 
Fletch said:
No, its always been about liberals thinking blacks look like monkeys.
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You really do say the dumbest things, and then post them for the world to see, good grief......
 
haymarket said:
Common? Present a dozen examples of the same phrase used in similar situations then. Lets see evidence of your claim.
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sure lets go one by one and you tell me if youve heard the phrase before
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"stop monkeying around"
Are you aware of this common phrase or are you ignorant of it?
 
AlphaOmega said:
sure lets go one by one and you tell me if youve heard the phrase before
#1)
"stop monkeying around"
Are you aware of this common phrase or are you ignorant of it?
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Was that the phrase DeSantis used? Not a single news report I saw identified that as the phrase. Where are you getting it from?
 
haymarket said:
Was that the phrase DeSantis used? Not a single news report I saw identified that as the phrase. Where are you getting it from?
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you asked for 12 common phrases, I assume you point of contention is with the word monkey. Monkey things up is a common phrase. Youare not aware of this so Im giving you numerous similar phrases to asses your level of common knowledge. If you want to dodge again we are done. No time for facebook level politics. Sorry.
 
AlphaOmega said:
you asked for 12 common phrases, I assume you point of contention is with the word monkey. Monkey things up is a common phrase. Youare not aware of this so Im giving you numerous similar phrases to asses your level of common knowledge. If you want to dodge again we are done. No time for facebook level politics. Sorry.
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I asked for twelve uses of "the same phrase" DeSantis used. You failed to provide them. You tried to dishonestly move the goal posts and change the phrase into something else other than what DeSantis actually did use.

“The last thing we need to do is to monkey this up by trying to embrace a socialist agenda with huge tax increases and bankrupting the state.”
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So again, please provide a dozen examples of that same phrase used by others before DeSantis used it.
 
haymarket said:
I asked for twelve uses of "the same phrase" DeSantis used. You failed to provide them. You tried to dishonestly move the goal posts and change the phrase into something else other than what DeSantis actually did use.
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yeah I know, its a dodge. You want me to give you 12 phrases of the exact same phrase. Facebook??? Thats strange this was supposed to be a political forum. Sorry I have no time for idiocy. If you want to debate me you need to ask better questions. "monkey things up" is a common colloquial term for mess things up, screw things up etc., Its not racist at all except to people who hear monkey and immediately think black person.
 
AlphaOmega said:
yeah I know, its a dodge. You want me to give you 12 phrases of the exact same phrase. Facebook??? Thats strange this was supposed to be a political forum. Sorry I have no time for idiocy. If you want to debate me you need to ask better questions. "monkey things up" is a common colloquial term for mess things up, screw things up etc., Its not racist at all except to people who hear monkey and immediately think black person.
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opinions vary

trump voters will defend to the end. we know how they will vote.

it is the opinion of the independent voters that will tell the tale. that we will have to wait till november to know.
 
haymarket said:
I asked for twelve uses of "the same phrase" DeSantis used. You failed to provide them. You tried to dishonestly move the goal posts and change the phrase into something else other than what DeSantis actually did use.



So again, please provide a dozen examples of that same phrase used by others before DeSantis used it.
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#724 is one example.

I guess you'd get more than a dozen usages from the rest of US Navy but you'll have to do your own polling.
 
haymarket said:
I asked for twelve uses of "the same phrase" DeSantis used. You failed to provide them. You tried to dishonestly move the goal posts and change the phrase into something else other than what DeSantis actually did use.



So again, please provide a dozen examples of that same phrase used by others before DeSantis used it.
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"Monkey this up", "monkey around", "monkey wrench" all mean basically the same thing. A vid for your enjoyment;

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/n...y-video-showing-all-monkey-references-tv-news

You demanding the exact phrase to the letter is highly disingenuous.
 
rickc said:
opinions vary

trump voters will defend to the end. we know how they will vote.

it is the opinion of the independent voters that will tell the tale. that we will have to wait till november to know.
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yep independents always elect. Do you believe independent voters will believe your claim that monkey things up is racist or do you think they sigh and are getting sick of hearing every single thing is racist? I think its the latter.
 
AlphaOmega said:
yeah I know, its a dodge. You want me to give you 12 phrases of the exact same phrase. Facebook??? Thats strange this was supposed to be a political forum. Sorry I have no time for idiocy. If you want to debate me you need to ask better questions. "monkey things up" is a common colloquial term for mess things up, screw things up etc., Its not racist at all except to people who hear monkey and immediately think black person.
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So you are completely impotent to back up your claim. Got it loud and clear.
 
hanger4 said:
"Monkey this up", "monkey around", "monkey wrench" all mean basically the same thing. A vid for your enjoyment;

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/n...y-video-showing-all-monkey-references-tv-news

You demanding the exact phrase to the letter is highly disingenuous.
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Allow me to quote the great Robert DeNiro in the epic film THE DEERHUNTER

"This is this, this isn't something else, this is this."
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DeSantis did NOT use the phrase monkey with or monkey around or monkey wrench.

He appears to have invented his own unique phrase that can be found nowhere else.

“The last thing we need to do is to monkey this up by trying to embrace a socialist agenda with huge tax increases and bankrupting the state.”
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He was referring to government official who had the power to do those things. And he was referring to his opponent.
 
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