Ron DeSantis Says Floridians Have Right to Hit Protesters With Cars

[Hello My Son]

Well I mean if you're just driving down the street and all of a sudden people rush in who weren't there, that could be one thing. But if you're driving down the street and come across a huge protest and decide to try to drive through it....that's a different ballgame.

Even if they surround and trap you and start beating on your vehicle or acting in other aggressive or violent ways?

 

[Ikari]

Even if they surround and trap you and start beating on your vehicle or acting in other aggressive or violent ways?

Did you drive into them?

 

[TangoNoCash]

Will be a real shame when meatball Ron doesn’t like the actions of the next administration. You’d think a governor would have a tiny bit of foresight.

 

[Cope]

I like how you moved the goalposts from “protesting” to “blocking traffic” and pretended no one would notice.

"and a mob comes and surrounds your vehicle, and threatens you, you have a right to flee for your safety."

Or when the media transform that sentence into "..right to hit protestors with your car..."

Blindly believing the media does you no favors.

This thread is a perfect shining example of that.

 

[Bodecea]

Just when you think they can't go lower...

They will believe and do ANYTHING in support of the rapey felon and his minions. ANYTHING.

 

[Hello My Son]

Did you drive into them?

Have you ever come across a large protest group blocking traffic? You could turn a corner and immediately be surrounded without seeing it coming. Or, you could be driving down a one-way expressway or busy street where it is not possible to turn around and avoid them. In big cities, stoplights are at most intersections and traffic backs up. You don't have a wide open road ahead and see that kind of thing coming. And if it's an expressway, you could be going 70 mph and then suddenly hit completely stopped traffic and be surrounded.

Not to mention, most drivers aren't expecting to come up to a random group of people who are standing in the way and blocking traffic. It's a very confusing situation if you've ever faced it.

How about people just don't block traffic and engage in legal demonstrations on the sidewalk rather than trapping, threatening, and potentially harming innocent people? That's really not too much to ask. The behavior of anyone blocking traffic and trapping innocent people is, at a minimum, extremely narcissistic.

 

[Bodecea]

I agree, running over protesters on the road is awesome!!

Good people on both sides.

 

[Taylor]

Thread title is a lie.

If people are banging on your car and are trying to open the dorors or smash windows, they are no longer acting as "protestors" - as if that gives you an excuse to attack people.

The situation is treated the same as if any random group of people try to do that to you. You get the hell out of there.

 

[Ikari]

Have you ever come across a large protest group blocking traffic? You could turn a corner and immediately be surrounded without seeing it coming. Or, you could be driving down a one-way expressway or busy street where it is not possible to turn around and avoid them. In big cities, stoplights are at most intersections and traffic backs up. You don't have a wide open road ahead and see that kind of thing coming. And if it's an expressway, you could be going 70 mph and then suddenly hit completely stopped traffic and be surrounded.

Not to mention, most drivers aren't expecting to come up to a random group of people who are standing in the way and blocking traffic. It's a very confusing situation if you've ever faced it.

How about people just don't block traffic and engage in legal demonstrations on the sidewalk rather than trapping, threatening, and potentially harming innocent people? That's really not too much to ask. The behavior of anyone blocking traffic and trapping innocent people is, at a minimum, extremely narcissistic.

Large groups of people aren't necessarily hard to miss.

People shouldn't block traffic and if they don't have permits and are blocking roads, the police can be called in to manage the situation. But that doesn't mean that if you see a large group of people blocking the road that you can just plow on through it.

 

[Cosmo]

Well I mean if you're just driving down the street and all of a sudden people rush in who weren't there, that could be one thing. But if you're driving down the street and come across a huge protest and decide to try to drive through it....that's a different ballgame.

You don't get to unilaterally decide how a stretch of public road gets used from now on because you got there first. That's called jaywalking.

 

[Cosmo]

Large groups of people aren't necessarily hard to miss.

People shouldn't block traffic and if they don't have permits and are blocking roads, the police can be called in to manage the situation. But that doesn't mean that if you see a large group of people blocking the road that you can just plow on through it.

I doubt he's talking about plowing through them. More like proceeding carefully down the road cars (and not pedestrians) are allowed to travel down and then the mob gets violent as the car approaches because how dare anyone use the road the way it's supposed to be used.

 

[Absentglare]

"and a mob comes and surrounds your vehicle, and threatens you, you have a right to flee for your safety."

Or when the media transform that sentence into "..right to hit protestors with your car..."

Blindly believing the media does you no favors.

This thread is a perfect shining example of that.

Oh sorry, I didn’t realize it was so noble to fantasize about hypothetically running over some of your political opponents because you’re looking for an excuse to be violent against them.

 

[Ikari]

You don't get to unilaterally decide how a stretch of public road gets used from now on because you got there first. That's called jaywalking.

Can't just purposefully drive over a jaywalker.

lol

 

[Cosmo]

Can't just purposefully drive over a jaywalker.

lol

Did I say you could?

 

[Cope]

Oh sorry, I didn’t realize it was so noble to fantasize about hypothetically running over some of your political opponents because you’re looking for an excuse to be violent against them.

It isn't noble to mislead readers, yet you swallowed that noble lie hook, line, and sinker.

Not only did you swallow it, you go on to promote it!

 

[snakestretcher]

It’s not confusing or complicated. Protesting doesn’t involve blocking traffic and trapping people in their cars.

If they’re on the sidewalk, they’ll be fine. It shouldn’t be too difficult for them to behave intelligently instead of like brain dead morons.

Yes it does involve things like blocking traffic. It's called 'making a point' and cannot be ignored-unless, like DeSantis, running people down is an option. You may have heard of 'principles'. Writing polite letters of protest to your representatives stopped working years ago.
Women seeking suffrage died in order to gain equal recognition and the vote. We have fought world wars on matters of principle.

The Suffragette Who Was Killed by King George V's Horse

In 1913, British Royalty would come in direct contact with a changing social order, thanks to a suffragette named Emily Davison. Her death at Epsom Falls would send shockwaves through the nation.

www.smithsonianmag.com

 

[Ikari]

I doubt he's talking about plowing through them. More like proceeding carefully down the road cars (and not pedestrians) are allowed to travel down and then the mob gets violent as the car approaches because how dare anyone use the road the way it's supposed to be used.

Yeah, if you start pushing through a crowd of people with a vehicle, you've initiated the conflict.

Turn around, find a different road.

 

[Cope]

Yes it does involve things like blocking traffic. It's called 'making a point' and cannot be ignored-unless, like DeSantis, running people down is an option. You may have heard of 'principles'. Writing polite letters of protest to your representatives stopped working years ago.
Women seeking suffrage died in order to gain equal recognition and the vote. We have fought world wars on matters of principle.

The Suffragette Who Was Killed by King George V's Horse

In 1913, British Royalty would come in direct contact with a changing social order, thanks to a suffragette named Emily Davison. Her death at Epsom Falls would send shockwaves through the nation.

www.smithsonianmag.com

When you break the law to make a point, you are putting yourself and others in danger.

If/when the choice needs to be made whether to keep myself and my family safe, or keep you from harm, you lose that battle.

 

[snakestretcher]

When you break the law to make a point, you are putting yourself and others in danger.

If/when the choice needs to be made whether to keep myself and my family safe, or keep you from harm, you lose that battle.

Yes, well that's what happens when civil disobedience takes place over unconstitutional and illegal actions-and it has happened repeatedly over many centuries while holding those in charge to account.

Peterloo Massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Just one example of hundreds I could cite. You have certain rights and privileges because people have fought and died to preserve or establish them.

 

[Helix]

Life ain't a Blues Brothers Illinois nazis fantasy. Hitting someone with a car is something that all of us should hope to never experience.

 

[Taylor]

You have certain rights and privileges because people have fought and died to preserve or establish them.

You have a natural right to protect your life. It doesn't require others dying for it or some other entity to establish it.

 

[Cope]

Yes, well that's what happens when civil disobedience takes place over unconstitutional and illegal actions-and it has happened repeatedly over many centuries while holding those in charge to account.

Peterloo Massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Just one example of hundreds I could cite. You have certain rights and privileges because people have fought and died to preserve or establish them.

I don't have a problem with people making that decision for themselves. They do so knowing it is:
1. Illegal
2. Dangerous

I do have a problem with others (outsiders) attempting to justify and excuse it. There is no debate that it is 1 and 2 above.

 

[snakestretcher]

You have a natural right to protect your life. It doesn't require others dying for it or some other entity to establish it.

But that's exactly how many of your freedom, rights and privileges came about-because people fought and died to protect them. Why didn't Britons just roll over and allow the Nazis to invade Britain-could it be because we valued our freedom from tyranny and injustice and were prepared to fight and die to preserve it? Try thinking for a change.

 

[Taylor]

But that's exactly how many of your freedom, rights and privileges came about-because people fought and died to protect them.

The rights were always there - certainly the right to protect yourself from undue harm. Government doesn't "establish" that right. It can help to protect it. Or not.

 

[snakestretcher]

The rights were always there - certainly the right to protect yourself from undue harm. Government doesn't "establish" that right. It can help to protect it. Or not.

Wtf? Did you have established rights before the Constitution and Bill of Rights were written into law?