I am not ignoring it-I am saying it was dishonest and since the New Deal was based on raping over a century of precedent why should I worship its dishonesty?
the entire purpose of taxing the rich more is to persuade the masses that the dems can now spend more to buy their votes
Romney has four or five homes. Do you know in which state he resides for tax purposes?
Of course the Republicans sell their votes to the rich on the promise that they will make them richer.
No reason you should worship it. But it is the law of the land and it is constitutional as the Supreme Court is the arbiter of what is or is not constitutional.
he still pays property taxes on all of them. WIki claims he has residences in Belmont (Boston) and California as well as a summer home in NH During the NH primary the press constantly mentioned this summer home. I suspect if that was his residence it would have been mentioned. Both Kalifornia and Mass. have high income tax rates
Want to bet that he claims NH as his state of residence for tax purposes? No income tax there, though they do have a 5% tax on interest and dividends.
Want to bet that he claims NH as his state of residence for tax purposes? No income tax there, though they do have a 5% tax on interest and dividends.
Live free or die. They also have no sales tax.
Hmm, I liked the state-Dartmouth was my third choice
You dont think the Obama worshipping press would have ignored that when he was running in NH. My late uncle did the same thing-he established his residence in RI for the same reason. My father in law does it in Florida
and I know you have to spend at least half the year and a day in the state of tax residence. Do you REALLY think the Press would not have mentioned that if it was true?
Later
He's lying. He knows that a guy who lives in a state with state income tax and that tax is 5% or more, its a lie to claim that Romney didn't pay even one percent on his income other than federal income tax. What do you think the property tax in that area is? or the sales tax.
I'm not sure if the war on drugs is unconstitutional, but it's surely stupid and needs to end. However, the founding fathers weren't libertarians. They did advocate limited government (more of a classical liberal agenda), but they didn't advocate that government stay out of the economy in its entirety. They were probably actually opposed to absolutely unrestricted capitalism that some members of the far-right support. Many, including Thomas Jefferson, were rather flexible and would intervene in the economy when necessary rather than subscribing to the dogmatic anti-aggression principle that many (if not all) liberals oppose.lots of things congress does is not properly supported by the constitution
the war on drugs comes to mind
While you got your silkies twisted over Romney...when was the last time you posted your omigosh outrage over what Kerry pays?The median effective tax rate in the US is 27%. That's how much the typical American pays between state and federal taxes. Megamillionaire robber baron Mitt Romney, however, only pays 15%.
That is not uncommon at all for the superrich. They do not pay many of the taxes middle class people pay at all- no FICA, no unemployment, no disability, etc. And many of the taxes that apply to a large portion of middle class's income- sales, property, vehicle, etc- apply to only a very tiny percentage of the income of someone as wealthy as Romney, so in effect, they don't really pay those either.
But, you might think, we have a progressive income tax system. Certainly the super rich get hit up on that one. But, nope, they don't. The progressive income tax system really only affects up to upper middle class people. People in really high paying jobs pay 35%, in addition to the other taxes listed above. But once you break past that into the super rich, they don't get paid in wages, they get paid with equity, and equity is only taxed at a measley 15%. So, in addition to being excused from most types of taxes, they get a 20% reduction in their tax break because they don't have to work to make their income.
Romney reveals he pays about 15% in taxes - CNN.com
While you got your silkies twisted over Romney...when was the last time you posted your omigosh outrage over what Kerry pays?
Kerry is one of your LIBERAL heroes...the republicans arent clamoring to pay higher percentages and YOU for some reason jump to start a thread about the OMIGAWD...republican that pays 15%...and havent said **** about the democrat that pays 13%...never even crossed your mind. Because you dont GIVE a **** that democrats do it...only...republicans. And you dont even have the grace to be embarassed by your hypocrisy.If Kerry pays 15% that is way too little too. But Kerry isn't out there campaigning for the rich to pay even less and the middle class to absorb the cost of their tax break, so it doesn't really hurt him politically. Romney is trying to deny that a problem exists which he himself exemplifies. That's why it is so devastating for him.
Kerry is one of your LIBERAL heroes...the republicans arent clamoring to pay higher percentages and YOU for some reason jump to start a thread about the OMIGAWD...republican that pays 15%...and havent said **** about the democrat that pays 13%...never even crossed your mind. Because you dont GIVE a **** that democrats do it...only...republicans. And you dont even have the grace to be embarassed by your hypocrisy.
Thats just funny right there...:lamo:lamo:lamoIf Kerry pays 15% that is way too little too. But Kerry isn't out there campaigning for the rich to pay even less and the middle class to absorb the cost of their tax break, so it doesn't really hurt him politically. Romney is trying to deny that a problem exists which he himself exemplifies. That's why it is so devastating for him.
A classical liberal agenda would be fine with me.I'm not sure if the war on drugs is unconstitutional, but it's surely stupid and needs to end. However, the founding fathers weren't libertarians. They did advocate limited government (more of a classical liberal agenda), but they didn't advocate that government stay out of the economy in its entirety. They were probably actually opposed to absolutely unrestricted capitalism that some members of the far-right support. Many, including Thomas Jefferson, were rather flexible and would intervene in the economy when necessary rather than subscribing to the dogmatic anti-aggression principle that many (if not all) liberals oppose.
Thats just funny right there...:lamo:lamo:lamo
Whats TRULY sad is that he doesnt see just WHO is wearing the "Hi I am a hypocrite!" name tag...and its comical that he actually believes its ROMNEY...or that I am implying its Kerry.it's like he doesn't see the irony. Kerry takes advantage in private of a system he decries in public... and yet he is the good guy because at least he's a hypocrite whereas Romney is honest.
Why would one include FICA taxes in this discussion? Aren't these 'investments' that will be paid out ultimately to those who paid them in?
Because a tax is a tax is a tax. It is money taken out of the pocket or account of the citizen and given to the government.
Any honest discussion of American taxation should include All taxes paid by ALL citizens to ALL levels of government for any purpose.
Certainly not when a discussion is revolving around Romney's off-the-cuff remark that he thinks he's paying about 15%. Honest discussions about this recognize that he was talking about his effective tax rate and not his Federal income tax, FICA contributions, real estate taxes, state taxes, sales taxes, gasoline taxes, etc., etc., etc., etc., as others on this thread have insisted.
Kerry is one of your LIBERAL heroes...the republicans arent clamoring to pay higher percentages and YOU for some reason jump to start a thread about the OMIGAWD...republican that pays 15%...and havent said **** about the democrat that pays 13%...never even crossed your mind. Because you dont GIVE a **** that democrats do it...only...republicans. And you dont even have the grace to be embarassed by your hypocrisy.
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