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[SkyFox76]

No one put a hand on his long gun. He fired multiple times with hundreds of people in the immediate area. Where was his armed group? Why didn’t he call the police or tell his mom to drive him directly to police? He knew what he did was not only illegal but wrong. He is done

I'd just like to add to my previous reply on this. Rittenhouse had strayed (which he was warned not to do) and that's how he became the lone armed "protection" person outside the main area.

And while I agree, he should have found another cop, called 911, had Black drive him the few blocks to KPD or his own local dept, once he was home, his mom told him he could run or turn himself in. He chose to turn himself in, so she drove him to the station.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

I was talking about his victim and not the persons trying to stop a person who just killed someone from getting away. Rittenhouse is within his rights to guard a car dealership but persons aren’t supposed to stop a fleeing person who just shot a person 4 times? See where this nonsense falls apart.

To stop a person who appears to shoot in self defence according to an eyewitness?
I wouldn't bet my life in stopping a person in which none has witnessed the shooting ( Except reporter ) or knows for certain WHO did the shooting. Likely a good way to get killed needlessly, expecially since this is likely a justified homicide.

 

[US&THEM]

I'd just like to add to my previous reply on this. Rittenhouse had strayed (which he was warned not to do) and that's how he became the lone armed "protection" person outside the main area.

And while I agree, he should have found another cop, called 911, had Black drive him the few blocks to KPD or his own local dept, once he was home, his mom told him he could run or turn himself in. He chose to turn himself in, so she drove him to the station.

They went home and hid his rifle. Then he turned himself in. Dude is a turd

 

[US&THEM]

To stop a person who appears to shoot in self defence according to an eyewitness?
I wouldn't bet my life in stopping a person in which none has witnessed the shooting ( Except reporter ) or knows for certain WHO did the shooting. Likely a good way to get killed needlessly, expecially since this is likely a justified homicide.

People yelling that guy just shot someone and is leaving. Rittenhouse decisions were all wrong and people died because of it.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

You did specify, but not Rosenbaum.

Funny, so many who get caught with the facts, change their story, but get caught. Two times already. Must be a liberal thing...lol

 

[SkyFox76]

They went home and hid his rifle. Then he turned himself in. Dude is a turd

Okay seriously. You really don't need to continue to make totally false statements on what occurred. He told the police the gun was in the trunk of Black's vehicle. The police went to the apt, opened the trunk and the gun was right where he told them.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Okay seriously. You really don't need to continue to make totally false statements on what occurred. He told the police the gun was in the trunk of Black's vehicle. The police went to the apt, opened the trunk and the gun was right where he told them.

Excuse me, three times...lol.

 

[US&THEM]

Okay seriously. You really don't need to continue to make totally false statements on what occurred. He told the police the gun was in the trunk of Black's vehicle. The police went to the apt, opened the trunk and the gun was right where he told them.

Wait you think thats normal behavior? The rifle his friend purchased for him and he used in the commission of 3 crimes was in a trunk? How is what I have stated false. He had his mommy drive him home and hid the rifle.

 

[SkyFox76]

Excuse me, three times...lol.

TY, I guess I missed or scrolled past one. To my knowledge myself and ASHE have followed this from the day it started. I just happened to be watching a live stream the night all this happened and two of the streamers caught the whole scene at different parts. So as videos started hitting the www I started watching them. ASHE and I disagree on much of it but we also know many of the false narratives that keep getting brought in. Thankfully most of them have slowed down but there are still the "brought the weapon across state line" comments from time to time.

 

[ASHES]

TY, I guess I missed or scrolled past one. To my knowledge myself and ASHE have followed this from the day it started. I just happened to be watching a live stream the night all this happened and two of the streamers caught the whole scene at different parts. So as videos started hitting the www I started watching them. ASHE and I disagree on much of it but we also know many of the false narratives that keep getting brought in. Thankfully most of them have slowed down but there are still the "brought the weapon across state line" comments from time to time.

And still

Wait you think thats normal behavior? The rifle his friend purchased for him and he used in the commission of 3 crimes was in a trunk? How is what I have stated false. He had his mommy drive him home and hid the rifle.

 

[US&THEM]

And still

What have I stated that was untrue?

 

[SkyFox76]

Wait you think thats normal behavior? The rifle his friend purchased for him and he used in the commission of 3 crimes was in a trunk? How is what I have stated false. He had his mommy drive him home and hid the rifle.

Now your comments are completely off the wall and total lies. I'm curious what kind of behavior you would approve of? But just to help you out, Black's statement to police was that they place both weapons in the trunk (Black broke his down Rittenhouse didn't) and they went back to Kyle's apt. And to help you further, the Illinois prosecutors determined this-----

Prosecutors there have said the rifle was "not immediately accessible" to Rittenhouse and his friend because it was locked up in the trunk, the police records say.

So no charges because the weapon was never in his possession in Illinois. Unless you think the Illinois prosecutors are in on the whole thing.

 

[ASHES]

What have I stated that was untrue?

I'll spell it out for you.

Wait you think thats normal behavior?

Yes, the proper way to transport a firearm in a car if you don't have a CCW is in the trunk.

Thehe rifle his friend purchased for him and he used in the commission of 3 crimes was in a trunk?

Yes, where it is required to be. If it was in the cab, you'd be talking about how he was committing a crime (which it could be.) Also, according to you, there must have been at least 5 crimes committed with the gun, so your number of 3 is wrong either way.

Howow is what I have stated false. He had his mommy drive him home and hid the rifle.

His mom did not drive him home.

 

[SkyFox76]

What have I stated that was untrue?

More than your fair share. One of the most obvious being there was no "hiding the weapon" at any given point.

 

[SkyFox76]

I'll spell it out for you.


Yes, the proper way to transport a firearm in a car if you don't have a CCW is in the trunk.

Yes, where it is required to be. If it was in the cab, you'd be talking about how he was committing a crime (which it could be.) Also, according to you, there must have been at least 5 crimes committed with the gun, so your number of 3 is wrong either way.

His mom did not drive him home.

I just learned on the Freekyle Twitter that he had driven himself to Kenosha. I guess in my mind I thought Black had swung by to get him.

 

[justabubba]

The point being, this was far from normal circumstances and Rittenhouse wasn't under any authority to tell Rosenbaum squat. He could certainly do it, but then he'd be opening himself up to how Rosenbaum would react.

I'm sure as a lifeguard Rittenhouse had the authority at the pool to tell kids no running, no diving, no glass around the pool and they'd have to listen or be removed. In Kenosha he was just some naive kid walking around with a weapon and drawing attention to himself. I'd be willing to bet that had he listened to the adults there when they said DON'T stray off, we'd not be having this conversation. But he didn't listen and he met up with the wrong guy to give orders to.

based on the outcome, it appears the crazy, convicted perv wound up on the wrong end of the gun due to his own actions

 

[justabubba]

Wow. You’re really all over the place with your attempted defense of two specific charges involving Rittenhouse’s illegal possession of a firearm on the evening of 8/25/20.

First, I will ignore your failed attempt at defending against Black and Rittenhouse’s shared guilt in violating federal law regarding straw man purchases as it has nothing to do with the possession charges Rittenhouse is facing.

The firearms possession charges Rittenhouse face
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are clearly delineated in Wisconsin legal statutes here;

Wisconsin Legislature: 948.60

docs.legis.wisconsin.gov

and here;

Wisconsin Legislature: 939.51

docs.legis.wisconsin.gov

Any arguments you wish to raise must address those statutes.

Review the charges and the statutes, and then try to make a cogent argument supporting why you think Rittenhouse isn’t guilty of violating those statutes.

ah, so ashes MUST address those statutes. it is recognized that you failed to show the portions of those cites which passages would be salient to your argument

while not ashes, i feel obligated to tender a reply with the same specificity as you. you will find it here:

Google

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www.google.com

 

[justabubba]

No one put a hand on his long gun. He fired multiple times with hundreds of people in the immediate area. Where was his armed group? Why didn’t he call the police or tell his mom to drive him directly to police? He knew what he did was not only illegal but wrong. He is done

self defense is illegal and wrong?
don't think so

 

[US&THEM]

I'll spell it out for you.


Yes, the proper way to transport a firearm in a car if you don't have a CCW is in the trunk.

Yes, where it is required to be. If it was in the cab, you'd be talking about how he was committing a crime (which it could be.) Also, according to you, there must have been at least 5 crimes committed with the gun, so your number of 3 is wrong either way.

His mom did not drive him home.

You are stating if you do not have a ccw is to transport in trunk, therefore you understand Rittenhouse’s possession of the rifle was illegal.
Black has been charged and drove him to mom’s.
Rittenhouse will be found guilty.

 

[SkyFox76]

based on the outcome, it appears the crazy, convicted perv wound up on the wrong end of the gun due to his own actions

Except the fact that Rosenbaum was highly suicidal. I don't think Rittenhouse had any desires to be looking at life in prison. So Rosenbaum got his wish to not keep living, and Rittenhouse is living in seclusion and facing murder charges. The time wasted, putting his family in the spotlight, getting robbed by two attorneys whose only goal was to get easy money while doing very little. I'd say Rittenhouse isn't exactly sitting pretty.

 

[justabubba]

That person has every right to try to disarm a person who just gunned someone down and ran. Rittenhouse committee 2 murders and seriously wounded another, yet he walked away with a few scratches? He called a friend and then his mommy and hid his rifle.

your position is that other persons having no knowledge of the circustances of the self defense shooting should feel entitled to disarm the person who has been defending himself
don't think it works that way
but it was an effective way to get shot themselves

 

[RaleBulgarian]

ah, so ashes MUST address those statutes. it is recognized that you failed to show the portions of those cites which passages would be salient to your argument

while not ashes, i feel obligated to tender a reply with the same specificity as you. you will find it here:

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Wrong.

Everything needed to respond is included in my post to Ashes. Link to charge sheet and statutes referenced in the charges. All that’s left is his, or your, rebuttal.

 

[US&THEM]

self defense is illegal and wrong?
don't think so

Which time? It is amazing Rittenhouse was the only person who killed 2 people and wounded another, but he was just defending himself. What a bunch of BS. Dude is done

 

[US&THEM]

your position is that other persons having no knowledge of the circustances of the self defense shooting should feel entitled to disarm the person who has been defending himself
don't think it works that way
but it was an effective way to get shot themselves

People yelling stop that guy he just shot someone have every right to intervene.

 

[justabubba]

People yelling stop that guy he just shot someone have every right to intervene.

they have a right to prevent him from defending himself?
need to see your cite which tells us this