Riley Gaines repeatedly tears into AOC for taking pronouns out of X bio after advocating for trans athletes

[Jezcoe]

Riley Gaines... man... talk about someone who has milked a 5th place finish into an outrage career.

 

[Taylor]

How are transgender people(1.5%) of the population) a movement when they have always existed?

Merely existing isn't a movement. There is no flea movement or bagel movement.

 

[Lisa]

Merely existing isn't a movement. There is no flea movement or bagel movement.

Then what is the conservative outrage about transgender people who have existed publicly since 1950, when the first surgery was performed? From my perspective this is just conservative rage bait to outrage stupid boomers and other idiots, in the same way the conservatives treated gay people in the 1970s and 1980s, including allowing them to die from AIDS that they claimed was the evangelical gods revenge for being gay.

 

[Taylor]

Then what is the conservative outrage about transgender people who have existed publicly since 1950, when the first surgery was performed?

There is none. It wasn't ever an issue until the radical movement began.

 

[Lisa]

There is none. It wasn't ever an issue until the radical movement began.

There is no radical movement and there never was.

The consevtives need to shut up about the issue and leave people alone to live their lives!

 

[Taylor]

There is no radical movement and there never was.

Of course there is. Cutting off body parts of minors is pretty radical. So is putting boys on girls sports teams.

The consevtives need to shut up about the issue and leave people alone to live their lives!

It's not a "conservative" thing - it's a "most everyone" thing.

Majority of Americans oppose gender-affirming care for minors, trans women participating in sports: poll​

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3991685-majority-of-americans-oppose-gender-affirming-care-for-minors-trans-women-participating-in-sports-poll/

 

[ElChupacabra]

Anything can be a pronoun these days.
In the LGBTQIA culture of the area I live in, Stud is a Black Masculine Lesbian.

They can't, and it's funny to see people doubling down on dumb in this manner because it makes a great case for how ignorant and petulant people can be about gender issues.

 

[Lisa]

Of course there is. Cutting off body parts of minors is pretty radical. So is putting boys on girls sports teams.

There is no surgery for trans teens, except in extreme instances where the dysphoria cannot be addressed by other means. Who is lying to you and telling you that there is?


Trans people have played on teams of their gender identity since the 1970s without a problem. They arent taking over.

It's not a "conservative" thing - it's a "most everyone" thing.

Majority of Americans oppose gender-affirming care for minors, trans women participating in sports: poll​

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3991685-majority-of-americans-oppose-gender-affirming-care-for-minors-trans-women-participating-in-sports-poll/

Most Americans are idiots. That is how/why Trump was elected. You don't get a say in the medical care of others. You never did.

 

[Mr Person]

Riley Gaines

Who is that and why should anyone give a shit?

 

[ElChupacabra]

Maybe she will, but I think it's pretty much a fact now and not an assumption that embracing the more extremist views with respect to the trans movement have hurt Democrats.

Then you will have no problem presenting facts supporting your claim. Any data showing where on the list of reasons people didn't vote for Democrats would be a great start.

 

[hooligan]

Who the **** is Riley Gaines?

 

[Lisa]

Who the **** is Riley Gaines?

She is a wannabe that wasn't good enough to win in college sports, so he is trying to get her 5 minutes of fame because she placed 4th to a trans swimmer who placed 3rd. The first and second place swimmers were cisgender females, but Gaines is trying to sell the abdurd lie that trans females are taking over and dominating women's sports.

The moronic MAGAs are eating up her fake persecution claims because they need another minority to hate.

 

[Taylor]

There is no surgery for trans teens, except in extreme instances where the dysphoria cannot be addressed by other means. Who is lying to you and telling you that there is?

"There is no surgery for trans teens, except when there is surgery for trans teens"

Every argument is ludicrous.

Most Americans are idiots. That is how/why Trump was elected. You don't get a say in the medical care of others. You never did.

There's that 2028 campaign slogan again...

VOTE DEMOCRAT 2028
...because most Americans are idiots​

 

[Lisa]

"There is no surgery for trans teens, except when there is surgery for trans teens"

Every argument is ludicrous.

Do you have a relevant MD or a PhD in psychology so you can understand the subject matter? Surgery is only considered in extreme circumstances when the dysphoria cannot be effectively treated by other means? Why do you think that your partisan outrage allows you to have a say in the medical care of other, especially when you lack the ability to understand even the most basic concepts of the situation?

Is that overly difficult for you to understand? Did you go to college and take even a 100 level psych course? That number who have surgery of any kind is 1/10k, and likely even less.

There's that 2028 campaign slogan again...

VOTE DEMOCRAT 2028
...because most Americans are idiots​

The election and the re-election of Trump is proof that most poeople are morons.

 

[Taylor]

Then you will have no problem presenting facts supporting your claim. Any data showing where on the list of reasons people didn't vote for Democrats would be a great start.

The Democrats Need an Honest Conversation on Gender Identity

The party went into an election with policies it couldn’t defend—or even explain.

www.theatlantic.com

Some Democrats blame party’s position on transgender rights in part for Harris’ loss

Republicans spent millions attacking Democrats on transgender rights. Some say that’s one reason why Harris lost.

www.nbcnews.com

I mean, there's a reason the ads were so focused on the issue. They worked. They turned things around after Harris surged.

 

[MAGAnificent]

AOC = Alexandria Occluded Cortex

 

[Lisa]

Riley Gaines... man... talk about someone who has milked a 5th place finish into an outrage career.

The MAGA idiots who fall for this manufactured outrage are morons who couldn't pass a multiple choice psych quiz, even if it was open book. I doubt that they were even able to get into community college.

 

[hooligan]

Do you have a relevant MD or a PhD in psychology so you can understand the subject matter? Surgery is only considered in extreme circumstances when the dysphoria cannot be effectively treated by other means? Why do you think that your partisan outrage allows you to have a say in the medical care of other, especially when you lack the ability to understand even the most basic concepts of the situation?

Is that overly difficult for you to understand? Did you go to college and take even a 100 level psych course? That number who have surgery of any kind is 1/10k, and likely even less.

The election and the re-election of Trump is proof that most poeople are morons.

Not most people - just most of the people who decided to vote in 2024.

 

[ElChupacabra]

The Democrats Need an Honest Conversation on Gender Identity

The party went into an election with policies it couldn’t defend—or even explain.

www.theatlantic.com

Some Democrats blame party’s position on transgender rights in part for Harris’ loss

Republicans spent millions attacking Democrats on transgender rights. Some say that’s one reason why Harris lost.

www.nbcnews.com

I mean, there's a reason the ads were so focused on the issue. They worked. They turned things around after Harris surged.

Those are opinions I've read before, and I was more interested in you backing your claim that it is an actual issue that affected how people voted. A good way of doing that is through exit polling data demonstrating feedback on the issues that motivated voters. Now what's interesting is how transgender issues didn't make this list even for Trump supporters:



Was there some radical shift you can point to that supports the idea that from late summer to November, transgender rights became enough of a focus for people?

 

[----------]

Doubling down on dumb. Ok, have at it.

Are you pronoun shaming?

 

[Lisa]

Are you pronoun shaming?

Yes. Its not a pronoun. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stud

Keep trying.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Are you pronoun shaming?

No, I'm pronoun correcting. You'll note my issue isn't with you identifying as a stud (assuming you mean the literal definition), but merely informing you of the correct pronoun to use because even as an attempt at defiance of transgender pronoun usage, your example was quite daft. Unless that was the goal, which if so, well done! It's been hard to tell on this forum these past few days.

 

[----------]

No, I'm pronoun correcting. You'll note my issue isn't with you identifying as a stud (assuming you mean the literal definition), but merely informing you of the correct pronoun to use because even as an attempt at defiance of transgender pronoun usage, your example was quite daft. Unless that was the goal, which if so, well done! It's been hard to tell on this forum these past few days.

You don't get to tell me what my pronoun is. And there is no law that states someone's pronoun actually has to be a pronoun. It's a personal journey I am on right now.

 

[Lisa]

You don't get to tell me what my pronoun is. And there is no law that states someone's pronoun actually has to be a pronoun. It's a personal journey I am on right now.

Pronouns have to be a pronoun. It's how language works.

 

[ElChupacabra]

You don't get to tell me what my pronoun is.

I'm not. If you read what I wrote and understood what I was telling you, it would be apparent I was correcting you the right pronoun to use for what you've chosen to identify as.

And there is no law that states someone's pronoun actually has to be a pronoun. It's a personal journey I am on right now.

True, but there are rules around how people understand words, which is why we have grammar and definitions. If you stray far away from those, then people will have a hard time understanding what you mean and assume you're poorly educated, especially when unable to effectively articulate this kind of petulant behavior as you've demonstrated already.