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Michael Mann says it's fine.
One paragraph of opinion from a noted climate "skeptic." Apparently this qualifies as "crushing" the IPCC.
but really, what was I expecting? Data? :lamo
Michael Mann says it's fine.
One paragraph of opinion from a noted climate "skeptic." Apparently this qualifies as "crushing" the IPCC.
Michael Mann says it's fine.
One paragraph of opinion from a noted climate "skeptic." Apparently this qualifies as "crushing" the IPCC.
but really, what was I expecting? Data? :lamo
In a one-on-one debate, Lindzen would cut Mann into small pieces. MIT vs Penn State.:lamo:lamo
Hypotheticals are fun, but in reality land here we have an IPCC document containing the works of quite a few people, a lot of data that has been diligently collected over many years. Lots of scientific material. None of which you have read, obviously. And apparently one paragraph of opinion from your favorite "skeptic," without any actual evidence being presented, counts as "crushing" that report.
He really could have just shortened his posting to "Nuh UH!"
In a one-on-one debate, Lindzen would cut Mann into small pieces. MIT vs Penn State.:lamo:lamo
Michael Mann got his degree from Yale. I am actually embarrassed he's now a full professor at my alma mater and wasn't fired.
Michael Mann is a proven fraud.Michael Mann says it's fine.
It's four paragraphs. Accuracy matters.
No disrespect to Penn State, btw. But MIT is MIT.
Well both never graduated from those schools, rather they are Yale and Harvard douches.
MIT is an engineer school (45% of their degrees) so that's the niche and they are the best at it. Penn State doesn't have a niche but excel at many degrees one of which is engineering as well (10% or so). A name doesn't mean much to me. So when someone says MIT is MIT, I say so what? Penn State is a Public Ivy school. MIT isn't and never will be because it's a niche school.
Per US News & World Report 2013 ranking of national universities, MIT is #7. Penn State is #37.eace
Michael Mann is an educated idiot !!:twocents:
In a one-on-one debate, Lindzen would cut Mann into small pieces. MIT vs Penn State.:lamo:lamo
And I don't disagree with rankings. But that MIT degree costs you $170,000 for the same degree you can get at Penn State for as low as $65,000 and as high as $120,000. And a employee recruiter picks Penn State as the best places to recruit employees, MIT is way down on that list.
MIT has $11 billion endowment.
MIT is a private research school. (means they get royalities for their developments)
MIT offers only 44 undergrad degrees.
Penn State has a $1.7 billion endowment.
Penn State is a public research school.
Penn State offers close to a 160 undergrad degrees.
If I had an MIT budget, I better be ranked 7th with the lack of degrees I offer.
Just a fun fact, you know Bruce Banner went to Penn State right.. So we win!
MIT does a great deal of research funded by the government, Dept of Defense, and various other military and non-military as well as intelligence agencies.. What you think Microsoft, Apple or Google pay for things like the Artificial Intelligence Laboratory they have there?
LOL, "private" means it doesn't use funds reserved for public or "State" schools. It does not mean it's funded entirely by private companies.
So does Penn State when it comes to Government funding. You don't think Penn State has a few cash cows to the tune of $300 million a year which is more the MIT.
I never said it does. Private means (individuals and companies) that they keep X amount of money for the development of privately funded research. So for example in 2012 MIT grossed $120 million from Royalties, Patent Reimbursement, and Equity Cash-In. In 2012 Penn State had $3.1 million from Shale Oil research contracts which they report as an income for the purpose of showing no bias.
So does Penn State when it comes to Government funding. You don't think Penn State has a few cash cows to the tune of $300 million a year which is more the MIT.
I never said it does. Private means (individuals and companies) that they keep X amount of money for the development of privately funded research. So for example in 2012 MIT grossed $120 million from Royalties, Patent Reimbursement, and Equity Cash-In. In 2012 Penn State had $3.1 million from Shale Oil research contracts which they report as an income for the purpose of showing no bias.
This has gotten out of hand. I had no intention to disrespect Penn State, but rather to underline Lindzen's superiority to Mann.eace
It's four paragraphs. Accuracy matters.
MIT defense and intel money and that of Penn state? Not even in the same tier. You yourself made the claim they get so much more money in your last post..
Do you have a source for those numbers and claims? I mean if your going to throw numbers into it, best to know where they come from and if they are genuine.
But Mann just teaches at Penn State. He's a paid professor. It's a job. Are you gonna say Lindizen was gonna get stomp if he was at NC State (and mention it) and Mann was at MIT? Of course not, you would go back to the respect Universities the got their degrees from because as you say.. people judge on a Name and Harvard (where Lindizen went to school) is better then NC State. But by putting Penn State in the same sentence as him is denoting some how Lindzen's better because he teaches at MIT. But doesn't mean anything as I said from the start. Both Lindzen and Mann went to Ivy league schools. They took jobs at schools which aren't "Ivy" league.
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