RFK Jr., HHS to Link Autism to Tylenol Use in Pregnancy and Folate Deficiencies

[bubbabgone]

As I said, check the CDC.

Okay.
What link did you use to answer what I asked you ?

 

[NOLA Dude]

As I said, check the CDC.

Ah so you made claims you couldn't back up. I'm not surprised.

 

[NOLA Dude]

Legit question: How does one prove that X "saved lives"?

It's like saying "God saved lives here today through baptism".

Think about it... both are religious, require faith and not science based statements.
Yet, both can make up numbers to back their claim.

Their belief in vaccines is like a religion. It's not based on data or science.

 

[Roadvirus]

There is no scientific evidence for your claim.

The same goes for your claims & the claims of those you cite as sources.

 

[Roadvirus]

Check the CDC.

Unless RFKrazy had the info scrubbed.

 

[Roadvirus]

Their belief in vaccines is like a religion. It's not based on data or science.

The belief in vaccines are rooted in common sense.

Something the current administration has abandoned on a shelf to collect dust.

 

[HumblePi]

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That's definitive proof of the incredible immunization power that vaccines have on mortality rates from diseases that we're thankfully looking at in the rearview mirror.

 

[NOLA Dude]

Your entire ability to “debate” is reposting Twitter crap.

You don’t debate, you copy and paste.

You are beyond ridiculous. I made this specific response to you and your only reply was "You ever grow a human"

Post in thread 'RFK Jr., HHS to Link Autism to Tylenol Use in Pregnancy and Folate Deficiencies'

Sep 24, 2025

Do you have any original thoughts or do you
Simply walk around parroting Twitter?

That's hilarious coming from someone who slurps up big pharma propaganda like you are dying of thirst. It's completely obvious that your financial interests guide your view on anything health related.

Can you link to any of your posts complaining about anyone on the left making X or Bluesky posts? I bet you can't because your constant crying about my X posts is just a weak message board tactic to try to discredit something you are unable to. If you think something is inaccurate then point it out...

• NOLA Dude

You had no real response so you shifted to that idiotic reply and later claimed I was attacking women. That's a clear sign you had nothing to say to refute what I posted. Thats a common characteristic of a big pharma shill.

You can't help but to continue crying about X posts as cover for you being unable to refute anything. I'll ask you again and I'm sure you will ignore it: Can you link to any of your posts complaining about someone on the left like Caughtinthe posting X or Bluesky posts?

No you can't because you only cry about my X posts because you are unable to refute my posts. Don't worry. I'll just go back to ignoring you big pharma shilling.

 

[NOLA Dude]

That's definitive proof of the incredible immunization power that vaccines have on mortality rates from diseases that we're thankfully looking at in the rearview mirror.

Do you not know how to read a graph? That graph showed the mortality rates dropped to almost zero BEFORE the vaccines were introduced.

 

[BirdinHand]

You are beyond ridiculous. I made this specific response to you and your only reply was "You ever grow a human"

Post in thread 'RFK Jr., HHS to Link Autism to Tylenol Use in Pregnancy and Folate Deficiencies'

Sep 24, 2025

Do you have any original thoughts or do you
Simply walk around parroting Twitter?

That's hilarious coming from someone who slurps up big pharma propaganda like you are dying of thirst. It's completely obvious that your financial interests guide your view on anything health related.

Can you link to any of your posts complaining about anyone on the left making X or Bluesky posts? I bet you can't because your constant crying about my X posts is just a weak message board tactic to try to discredit something you are unable to. If you think something is inaccurate then point it out...

• NOLA Dude

You had no real response so you shifted to that idiotic reply and later claimed I was attacking women. That's a clear sign you had nothing to say to refute what I posted. Thats a common characteristic of a big pharma shill.

You can't help but to continue crying about X posts as cover for you being unable to refute anything. I'll ask you again and I'm sure you will ignore it: Can you link to any of your posts complaining about someone on the left like Caughtinthe posting X or Bluesky posts?

No you can't because you only cry about my X posts because you are unable to refute my posts. Don't worry. I'll just go back to ignoring you big pharma shilling.

I’ve heard less whining in a preschool than in both the post you quoted and this one.

“XYZ posts about Bluesky!”

 

[NOLA Dude]

I’ve heard less whining in a preschool than in both the post you quoted and this one.

“XYZ posts about Bluesky!”

And you are still scared to make a specific reply. Big pharma check got your tongue?

 

[Mika-El]

Legit question: How does one prove that X "saved lives"?

It's like saying "God saved lives here today through baptism".

Think about it... both are religious, require faith and not science based statements.
Yet, both can make up numbers to back their claim.

You are asking what is the process behind the creation and production of vaccines and then what is the analysis done to establish whether it prevents deaths. That information is public knowledge. You could easily find it on the internet or ask your doctor, pharmacist, nurse, dentist.

Vaccines are not religious and they are not based on faith. They are based on specific objective methodology you clearly do not understand and make no effort to try understand and so make the statement you did above.

Here is the thing. I do not believe you don't know why vaccines have saved lives and are safe. I think instead you have bought into a fear mongering campaign to believe anyone that tells you a vaccine is not safe is part of a conspiracy to kill you, to make themselves profit.

That head space is based on exploiting your fear and ignorance and deliberate refusal to find out hpw vaccines are created and how they have impacted on mortality rates.

Here is what you ignore and answers all your questions and its not faith based:

Explaining How Vaccines Work

Learn why and how vaccines help the body fight infection and strengthen natural defenses.

www.cdc.gov

Developing Safe and Effective Vaccines

Explaining the vaccine creation process and testing

www.cdc.gov

Misconceptions About Vaccines

Misconceptions about vaccines have persisted for decades because of a poor understanding of how vaccination works and an often skewed notion of the human immune response.

historyofvaccines.org

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)00850-X/fulltext

 

[Mika-El]

And you are still scared to make a specific reply. Big pharma check got your tongue?

She has, I have and many others have. Your pretending we have not directly responded and repudiated your false information and posing as if you scare people and anyone who disagrees with you is a pharma conspirator is what you revert to when you can't debate and counter objective evidence provided you.

Let us be clear. You scare no one. You should scare any one dependent on you to make medical decisions for them

 

[BirdinHand]

And you are still scared to make a specific reply. Big pharma check got your tongue?

What exactly is “big pharma”? Can you even identify what you’re parroting?

You do realize that “big pharma” doesn’t exist, right?

There are dozens of companies and then there are dozens of clinical research companies and there is not a singular monolith.

Or do you not even comprehend how stupid it sounds to keep repeating “big pharma”
Over and over like a yapping chihuahua?

 

[Mika-El]

Do you not know how to read a graph? That graph showed the mortality rates dropped to almost zero BEFORE the vaccines were introduced.

Your graph was responded to by me and you deliberately ignored the response.

It is public record that the mortality rate for infectious diseases across the world did not go to zero before vaccines were introduced.

There were drops in mortality rates but as a result of non vaccine treatable viruses because of improvements in sanitation, hygiene, and nutrition.

You absolutely misrepresent. In fact infectious diseases remained a leading cause of death even when mortality rates on non vaccine illnesses went down.

Infectious disease mortality went down because of improvements to drinking water, sewage, improved housing, better diet, the creation of anti biotics.

You however absolutely misrepresent because the vast totality of evidence you ignore shows that diseases like measles, mumps, and rubella, case rates did not drop significantly until after vaccination programs were introduced.

In fact there is abundant data you of course ignore that shows mass vaccination for smallpolx, polio and diptheria for example wiped out the spread of such diseases and saved millions.

In fact if one properly reviews the preponderance of medical reports across the world including the UK, measles deaths fell before the vaccine was issued thanks to improved living conditions but the virus remained

widespread. In fact you choose a graph that snapshots a period of time to ignore deliberately how the infection disease rates for the illnesses you claim to speak of rapidly decreased once the vaccine was implemented.

Medical data shows that In the early 20th century, around 1900, about 20% of children died before their fifth birthday with the primary causes now wiped out by vaccines, i.e.,diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis (whooping cough).

The statistics you ignore show that after 1974, vaccines have been estimated to have saved 154 million lives, with 146 million of those being children under five and vaccines accounted for 40% of the observed decline in global infant mortality over the last 50 years.

To be specific:


Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis (DTP): The DTP vaccine alone helped avert 46.7 million deaths.

Measles: The measles vaccine was associated with saving 37.9 million lives.


When you were and are given the data to prove the above you can't repudiate it, you misdirect and ignore that data such as all the data I sent you and this:

Global infant mortality rate with and without vaccines

Infant mortality rates measure the share of newborns who die before reaching their first birthday. They are shown here as the actual observed change in the global rate (in blue), and a hypothetical scenario if vaccinations hadn't been rolled out (in red).

ourworldindata.org

You are a very intellectually dishonest debater refusing to acknowledge data that does not suit your agenda and then pretending I and others have not sent it to you earlier either in this thread or other threads.

10 sites

• The contribution of vaccination to global health: past, present and ...
  1. Introduction. It is often stated that vaccination has

 

[Gordy327]

Unless RFKrazy had the info scrubbed.

That would not surprise me.

 

[NOLA Dude]

Your graph was responded to by me and you deliberately ignored the response.

It is public record that the mortality rate for infectious diseases across the world did not go to zero before vaccines were introduced.

There were drops in mortality rates but as a result of non vaccine treatable viruses because of improvements in sanitation, hygiene, and nutrition.

You absolutely misrepresent. In fact infectious diseases remained a leading cause of death even when mortality rates on non vaccine illnesses went down.

Infectious disease mortality went down because of improvements to drinking water, sewage, improved housing, better diet, the creation of anti biotics.

You however absolutely misrepresent because the vast totality of evidence you ignore shows that diseases like measles, mumps, and rubella, case rates did not drop significantly until after vaccination programs were introduced.

In fact there is abundant data you of course ignore that shows mass vaccination for smallpolx, polio and diptheria for example wiped out the spread of such diseases and saved millions.

In fact if one properly reviews the preponderance of medical reports across the world including the UK, measles deaths fell before the vaccine was issued thanks to improved living conditions but the virus remained

widespread. In fact you choose a graph that snapshots a period of time to ignore deliberately how the infection disease rates for the illnesses you claim to speak of rapidly decreased once the vaccine was implemented.

Medical data shows that In the early 20th century, around 1900, about 20% of children died before their fifth birthday with the primary causes now wiped out by vaccines, i.e.,diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis (whooping cough).

The statistics you ignore show that after 1974, vaccines have been estimated to have saved 154 million lives, with 146 million of those being children under five and vaccines accounted for 40% of the observed decline in global infant mortality over the last 50 years.

To be specific:


Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis (DTP): The DTP vaccine alone helped avert 46.7 million deaths.

Measles: The measles vaccine was associated with saving 37.9 million lives.


When you were and are given the data to prove the above you can't repudiate it, you misdirect and ignore that data such as all the data I sent you and this:

Global infant mortality rate with and without vaccines

Infant mortality rates measure the share of newborns who die before reaching their first birthday. They are shown here as the actual observed change in the global rate (in blue), and a hypothetical scenario if vaccinations hadn't been rolled out (in red).

ourworldindata.org

You are a very intellectually dishonest debater refusing to acknowledge data that does not suit your agenda and then pretending I and others have not sent it to you earlier either in this thread or other threads.

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10 sites

• The contribution of vaccination to global health: past, present and ...
  1. Introduction. It is often stated that vaccination has

I responded to your post:

Post in thread 'RFK Jr., HHS to Link Autism to Tylenol Use in Pregnancy and Folate Deficiencies'

Sep 25, 2025

I call you out. You engage in deliberate misrepresentation by pulling a supposed set of statistics out of their full context.

Your graph without citation clearly is not a complete and full some analysis of the impact vaccines have had in reducing mortality.

We’ve saved 154 million lives. Want to guess how?

There’s one effective public health tool that has verifiably slashed global infant mortality.

www.vox.com

Global infant mortality rate with and without vaccines

Infant mortality rates measure the share of newborns who die before reaching their first birthday. They are shown here as the actual observed change in the global rate (in blue), and a hypothetical scenario if vaccinations hadn't been rolled out (in red).

ourworldindata.org

Vaccines work: Case counts of 6 vaccine-preventable diseases before and after routine vaccination - Canada.ca

Infographic: Vaccines Work

www.canada.ca

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• NOLA Dude

You were the one who ignored it and didn't reply.

 

[NOLA Dude]

Okay.
What link did you use to answer what I asked you ?

He just made up the claim.

 

[hecatmoggie]

Before the Hib vaccine, over 20,000 kids were infected every year in the U.S. Thanks to vaccines, Hib, Polio, Measles, Chickenpox, Tetanus, Hep B, Hep A, Whooping Cough, and Rotavirus have all been nearly eliminated in the United States. Did you grow up in the days before there was a Polio, Typhoid or Measles vaccine? Well, I did and can tell you that if you have ever known anyone who got one of these diseases, you would have fallen on your knees thankful that scientists developed vaccines for all of them. We do not want to go backwards in this country when it comes to immunizing our children. These diseases still exist, they aren't gone entirely from the earth.

if its found vaccines are one of if not the root causes of autism ... are they still worth it ?

 

[hecatmoggie]

4 million living kids are safe thanks to vaccines.

sacrificing 2100 is worth it then?

 

[Kyrion]

You had just said I was disregarding science. I posted a study supporting my position and you ignored the science and focused on CNN.

You didn't answer the question. Why are you disregarding science and getting your opinions from news organizations? You do know that is weird, right?

 

[Gordy327]

sacrificing 2100 is worth it then?

Sacrifice? Such hyperbole. "Sacrificing" 4 million is better?

 

[Gordy327]

if its found vaccines are one of if not the root causes of autism ... are they still worth it ?

Nothing like a 'what if' question to demonstrate a lack of any rational argument. There's no evidence vaccines cause autism. That's just more antivaccer ignorance and misinformation. Which is more worth it, autism or dying/suffering from viral diseases?

 

[NOLA Dude]

You didn't answer the question. Why are you disregarding science and getting your opinions from news organizations? You do know that is weird, right?

Keep ignoring this and acting like I didn't already post a study(science) if you would like me to put you on ignore:

Post in thread 'RFK Jr., HHS to Link Autism to Tylenol Use in Pregnancy and Folate Deficiencies'

Sep 25, 2025

Is that why you are disregarding science? Because you hate the media?

Weird flex.

Like this kind of science?

Using acetaminophen during pregnancy may increase children’s autism and ADHD risk | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

When children are exposed to acetaminophen—also known by the brand name Tylenol or as paracetamol—during pregnancy, they may be more likely to develop neurodevelopmental disorders including autism and ADHD, according to a new study.

hsph.harvard.edu

Why would CNN change their coverage of Tylenol for pregnant women?

• NOLA Dude

 

[NOLA Dude]

Sacrifice? Such hyperbole. "Sacrificing" 4 million is better?

Your made up claim of 4 million that you refuse to provide a link for?