RFK Jr., HHS to Link Autism to Tylenol Use in Pregnancy and Folate Deficiencies

[Kyrion]

You make a good point. I always felt that anyone in Congress should disclose any donors from big Pharma affiliationsbefore commenting on things like this.
Sure would make hearings a lot shorter and Liz Warren a lot quieter.

This should apply to any Congressional hearing where those in attendance disclose their financial interests in the subject at hand.

 

[Roadvirus]

Trump said folic acid treats autism. Do you know who sells folic acid? Dr. Oz.

A multiple-bankruptcy businessman with zero health education giving medical advice.

What could go wrong.

 

[Roadvirus]

define safe ? I guess if its not your kids its "safe"

Deaths Reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, United States, 1997–2013 - PMC

Vaccines are among the safest medical products in use today. Hundreds of millions of vaccinations are administered in the United States each year. Serious adverse reactions are uncommon. However, temporally associated deaths can occur following ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

We searched VAERS for US reports of death after any vaccination from 1 July 1997 through 31 December 2013. Available medical records, autopsy reports, and death certificates were reviewed to identify cause of death.

Results.​

VAERS received 2149 death reports, most (n = 1469 [68.4%]) in children

Vaccine Side Effects and Adverse Events

A vaccine is a medical intervention, and as with any medical intervention, may have side effects. This article discusses side effects and adverse events related to vaccination.

historyofvaccines.org

Hib Vaccine Side Effects​

• Redness, warmth, or swelling where the shot was given (up to 1 out of 4 children)
• Fever over 101°F (up to 1 out of 20 children)

No serious side effects have been related to the Hib vaccine.

​

Smallpox (Vaccinia) Vaccine Side Effects​

Mild to Moderate Problems:

• Mild rash, lasting 2-4 days.
• Swelling and tenderness of lymph nodes, lasting 2-4 weeks after the blister has healed.
• Fever of over 100°F (about 70% of children, 17% of adults) or over 102°F (about 15%-20% of children, under 2% of adults).
• Secondary blister elsewhere on the body (about 1 per 1,900).

Moderate to Severe Problems:

• Serious eye infection, or loss of vision, due to spread of vaccine virus to the eye.
• Rash on entire body (as many as 1 per 4,000).
• Severe rash on people with eczema (as many as 1 per 26,000).
• Encephalitis (severe brain reaction), which can lead to permanent brain damage (as many as 1 per 83,000).
• Severe infection beginning at the vaccination site (as many as 1 per 667,000, mostly in people with weakened immune systems).
• Death (1-2 per million, mostly in people with weakened immune systems).

For every million people vaccinated for smallpox, between 14 and 52 could have a life-threatening reaction to the smallpox vaccine.

Incidence of adverse reactions to vaccines in a paediatric population - PubMed

An active search for subjects with suspected adverse reactions to vaccines led to the detection of reactions that are usually not reported. Primary-care physicians and nurses must be vigilant for information on adverse reactions to vaccines in paediatric populations.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Results: Of a total sample of 946 children, ranging in age from 0 to 14 years (50.8% girls, 49.1% boys), 191 non-serious suspected adverse reactions were detected, representing 19% of the vaccinated children. Reactions to the diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis acellular and Haemophilus influenzae type b (DTPa + Hib) vaccine appeared in 43.4% of cases, followed by reactions to the measles, mumps, rubella (MMR) [18.4%] and adult tetanus and diphtheria (Td) [17.8%] vaccines. The most frequent types of adverse reactions to vaccines were: injection-site oedema (12.2 per 1000 doses); pain at site of inoculation (10.3 per 1000 doses); temperature not recorded but believed by parents to be very high (4.6 per 1000 doses); and measured temperature indicating fever of 39-40.5 masculineC (4.4 per 1000 doses). Fifty-five percent (n = 21) of cases of injection-site oedema were attributed to DTPa + Hib vaccine (18.8 per 1000 doses), followed by 18.4% (n = 7) attributable to Td vaccine (112 per 1000 doses). Indeed, this latter vaccine was responsible for 43.8% (n = 14; 226 per 1000 doses) of all reported pain at the site of inoculation. MMR vaccine was linked to the occurrence of fever of 39-40.5 masculineC in 52% of cases (n = 10; 29 per 1000 doses). Two children were treated by the emergency services, but there were no deaths or hospitalisations.

VAERS is UNRELIABLE.

Try again.

 

[Gordy327]

define safe ? I guess if its not your kids its "safe"

Deaths Reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, United States, 1997–2013 - PMC

Vaccines are among the safest medical products in use today. Hundreds of millions of vaccinations are administered in the United States each year. Serious adverse reactions are uncommon. However, temporally associated deaths can occur following ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

We searched VAERS for US reports of death after any vaccination from 1 July 1997 through 31 December 2013. Available medical records, autopsy reports, and death certificates were reviewed to identify cause of death.

Results.​

VAERS received 2149 death reports, most (n = 1469 [68.4%]) in children

Vaccine Side Effects and Adverse Events

A vaccine is a medical intervention, and as with any medical intervention, may have side effects. This article discusses side effects and adverse events related to vaccination.

historyofvaccines.org

Hib Vaccine Side Effects​

• Redness, warmth, or swelling where the shot was given (up to 1 out of 4 children)
• Fever over 101°F (up to 1 out of 20 children)

No serious side effects have been related to the Hib vaccine.

​

Smallpox (Vaccinia) Vaccine Side Effects​

Mild to Moderate Problems:

• Mild rash, lasting 2-4 days.
• Swelling and tenderness of lymph nodes, lasting 2-4 weeks after the blister has healed.
• Fever of over 100°F (about 70% of children, 17% of adults) or over 102°F (about 15%-20% of children, under 2% of adults).
• Secondary blister elsewhere on the body (about 1 per 1,900).

Moderate to Severe Problems:

• Serious eye infection, or loss of vision, due to spread of vaccine virus to the eye.
• Rash on entire body (as many as 1 per 4,000).
• Severe rash on people with eczema (as many as 1 per 26,000).
• Encephalitis (severe brain reaction), which can lead to permanent brain damage (as many as 1 per 83,000).
• Severe infection beginning at the vaccination site (as many as 1 per 667,000, mostly in people with weakened immune systems).
• Death (1-2 per million, mostly in people with weakened immune systems).

For every million people vaccinated for smallpox, between 14 and 52 could have a life-threatening reaction to the smallpox vaccine.

Incidence of adverse reactions to vaccines in a paediatric population - PubMed

An active search for subjects with suspected adverse reactions to vaccines led to the detection of reactions that are usually not reported. Primary-care physicians and nurses must be vigilant for information on adverse reactions to vaccines in paediatric populations.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Results: Of a total sample of 946 children, ranging in age from 0 to 14 years (50.8% girls, 49.1% boys), 191 non-serious suspected adverse reactions were detected, representing 19% of the vaccinated children. Reactions to the diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis acellular and Haemophilus influenzae type b (DTPa + Hib) vaccine appeared in 43.4% of cases, followed by reactions to the measles, mumps, rubella (MMR) [18.4%] and adult tetanus and diphtheria (Td) [17.8%] vaccines. The most frequent types of adverse reactions to vaccines were: injection-site oedema (12.2 per 1000 doses); pain at site of inoculation (10.3 per 1000 doses); temperature not recorded but believed by parents to be very high (4.6 per 1000 doses); and measured temperature indicating fever of 39-40.5 masculineC (4.4 per 1000 doses). Fifty-five percent (n = 21) of cases of injection-site oedema were attributed to DTPa + Hib vaccine (18.8 per 1000 doses), followed by 18.4% (n = 7) attributable to Td vaccine (112 per 1000 doses). Indeed, this latter vaccine was responsible for 43.8% (n = 14; 226 per 1000 doses) of all reported pain at the site of inoculation. MMR vaccine was linked to the occurrence of fever of 39-40.5 masculineC in 52% of cases (n = 10; 29 per 1000 doses). Two children were treated by the emergency services, but there were no deaths or hospitalisations.

Safe (adjective): protected from or not exposed to danger; not likely to be harmed or lost.

You know what is not safe? Viral infections! No one is claiming vaccines do not have side effects. Every medication on the market has potential side effects. That disclaimer and list of effects is typically on the packaging. So whats your point? Taking a medication for a condition or to prevent one boils down to a cost-benefit. Illness (or even death) from otherwise preventable diseases can be quite costly.

 

[Gordy327]

A multiple-bankruptcy businessman with zero health education giving medical advice.

What could go wrong.

Only everything. But then, many people are stupid enough to get all their medical advice and/or information from social media and the like. Stupidity is the real plague in this country.

 

[bubbabgone]

This should apply to any Congressional hearing where those in attendance disclose their financial interests in the subject at hand.

Yup.
Can you imagine?

 

[Gordy327]

This should apply to any Congressional hearing where those in attendance disclose their financial interests in the subject at hand.

I doubt there would be anyone in attendance in that case.

 

[hecatmoggie]

Safe (adjective): protected from or not exposed to danger; not likely to be harmed or lost.

clearly vaccines are not safe - exposed to danger they do

You know what is not safe? Viral infections! No one is claiming vaccines do not have side effects.

then they're not "safe"

Every medication on the market has potential side effects. That disclaimer and list of effects is typically on the packaging. So whats your point? Taking a medication for a condition or to prevent one boils down to a cost-benefit. Illness (or even death) from otherwise preventable diseases can be quite costly.

what you mean is they're MOSTLY safe as far as we know ....

its good when your kids aren't affected by getting vaccines .. if you're one who's child died or had severe reactions? probably not so good huh ?

 

[Gordy327]

clearly vaccines are not safe - exposed to danger they do


then they're not "safe"



what you mean is they're MOSTLY safe as far as we know ....

its good when your kids aren't affected by getting vaccines .. if you're one who's child died or had severe reactions? probably not so good huh ?

Vaccines also prevent danger from viruses. Children have died or suffered from viral infections too. Vaccines have helped keep more children alive and healthy than not. Vaccines are much safer than viral infections. Cost-benefit.

 

[NOLA Dude]

You make a good point. I always felt that anyone in Congress should disclose any donors from big Pharma affiliationsbefore commenting on things like this.
Sure would make hearings a lot shorter and Liz Warren a lot ququieter.

I agree. This list is interesting

 

[hecatmoggie]

Vaccines also prevent danger from viruses. Children have died or suffered from viral infections too. Vaccines have helped keep more children alive and healthy than not. Vaccines are much safer than viral infections. Cost-benefit.

so lets agree they're not safe - contrary to what you said

"much safer than viral infections" is not what you said

you said, and I quote "Vaccines are safe. Have been for decades. It's antivaccers who have deluded themselves into thinking otherwise"

can we conclude you were deluded because you thought otherwise ?

 

[BirdinHand]

I wonder how many people that believe the CT crap have passed basic science classes

 

[Gordy327]

so lets agree they're not safe - contrary to what you said

"much safer than viral infections" is not what you said

you said, and I quote "Vaccines are safe. Have been for decades. It's antivaccers who have deluded themselves into thinking otherwise"

can we conclude you were deluded because you thought otherwise ?

Considering vaccines have been used for decades with great success, we can say they are safe. But antivaccers seem paranoid and prefer infection. Clearly they are generally idiots and are not to be taken seriously.

 

[Gordy327]

I wonder how many people that believe the CT crap have passed basic science classes

I dont think they took science classes at all. That would explain their profound willful ignorance.

 

[NOLA Dude]

What about the Autism Science Foundation?


(September 5, 2025, 4:00 pm ET) This afternoon, The Wall Street Journal reported that HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. will announce later this month that Tylenol has been identified as a cause of autism, and that a medicine derived from folate can be used to treat symptoms in some people. Any association between acetaminophen and autism is based on limited, conflicting, and inconsistent science and is premature given the current science.

Statement from Autism Science Foundation Regarding Wall Street Journal Report “RFK Jr., HHS to Link Autism to Tylenol Use in Pregnancy and Folate Deficiencies” - Autism Science Foundation

(September 5, 2025, 4:00 pm ET) This afternoon, The Wall Street Journal reported that HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. will announce later this month that Tylenol has been identified as a cause of autism, and that a medicine derived from folate can be used to treat symptoms in some people...

autismsciencefoundation.org

I usually prefer to ignore your constant trolling, but sometimes your own face planting is too hard to pass by.

I've said this to you multiple times. Are you unable to post anyone who isn't a big pharma shill? This time you did one even better:

 

[NOLA Dude]

Considering vaccines have been used for decades with great success, we can say they are safe. But antivaccers seem paranoid and prefer infection. Clearly they are generally idiots and are not to be taken seriously.

Omg. You can't be serious. This is the kind of logic the rabid vaxers use.

 

[Roadvirus]

I usually prefer to ignore your constant trolling, but sometimes your own face planting is too hard to pass by.

I've said this to you multiple times. Are you unable to post anyone who isn't a big pharma shill? This time you did one even better:

View attachment 67591172

A guy who actually went to medical school and received a degree.

That makes him 10Kx more reliable then your sources.

 

[Gordy327]

Omg. You can't be serious. This is the kind of logic the rabid vaxers use.

Antivaxxers are devoid of logic. And reason. And rationality.

 

[Lursa]

Vaccines also prevent danger from viruses. Children have died or suffered from viral infections too. Vaccines have helped keep more children alive and healthy than not. Vaccines are much safer than viral infections. Cost-benefit.

Dont argue with such nonsense. Obviously cars, dogs, forks, airliners, windows, bicycles, food, etc are all unsafe as well. Quite the argument, eh? "Deep thoughts" such as that lead...nowhere Because then comes "buh buh buh, I never meant not to use them."

 

[BirdinHand]

Antivaxxers are devoid of logic. And reason. And rationality.

And many of them have all been vaccinated themselves.

If they have kids? Many of the older ones have kids that have been vaccinated. RFKs have

The kids of these current wackos are the ones that suffer and wind up with preventable disease because of their wacko parents.

 

[hecatmoggie]

Considering vaccines have been used for decades with great success, we can say they are safe. But antivaccers seem paranoid and prefer infection. Clearly they are generally idiots and are not to be taken seriously.

over 2,149 dead kids don't think they're safe

 

[NOLA Dude]

A guy who actually went to medical school and received a degree.

That makes him 10Kx more reliable then your sources.

So thats a no. You are unable to post anyone supporting your position that isn't a getting paid by big pharma. Carry on with you face planting and trolling!

 

[BirdinHand]

Next up will be kids winding up with harm because parents won’t give them Tylenol for fevers.

 

[NOLA Dude]

 

[Kyrion]

Is that why you are disregarding science? Because you hate the media?

Weird flex.