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Revelation of John

What's your opinion of the Revelation of John?


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you could look this up my friend....

Why Are Both Called "Morning Star"?​

  • The phrase "morning star" is a metaphor rooted in ancient astronomy, referring to Venus, the brightest object in the sky before sunrise. In Isaiah, the metaphor is used ironically for the king of Babylon (and later, by tradition, Satan) who aspired to greatness but was cast down
In Revelation, it is used positively for Jesus, the source of true light and hope
  • The similarity in titles does not equate the two figures. Christian theology distinguishes sharply between them: Satan (as "morning star" or "Lucifer") is a created being who fell from grace, while Jesus (the "bright morning star") is the eternal Son of God, the true and ultimate light

no contradictions friend, keep trying.


however Prophecy is humming big time, God is going to put hooks in Russia's mouth and bring her down to let Israel deal with her defeat....


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2 weeks or less, time to run to Jesus and find salvation.

are you ready yet?

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Spin it however you like. I still say it's a false prophesy by the Deuteronomy 18:21-22 standard.
 
Spin it however you like. I still say it's a false prophesy by the Deuteronomy 18:21-22 standard.

cept you got it wrong.


dig deeper, i gave you a few clues.

is yur mind made up? most here do Bible that way


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cept you got it wrong.

dig deeper, i gave you a few clues.

is yur mind made up? most here do Bible that way


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Revelation is like the Kennedy Assassination. You can always dig deeper, find new clues. It's a never-ending rathole. But eventually, if you sit back and just contemplate things rationally -shave a little with Occam's razor - it just leads back to the most simplistic answer.
 
Revelation is like the Kennedy Assassination. You can always dig deeper, find new clues. It's a never-ending rathole.

it ends my friend..........when you find The Truth.

But eventually, if you sit back and just contemplate things rationally -shave a little with Occam's razor - it just leads back to the most simplistic answer.

yes, you can find the 'most simplistic answer' if that suits you.

then you see things that don't fit or contradict and down you go.....


Proverbs 1:22 asks, "How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity?"


for some, simplicity never ends. others work harder and smarter.

yur choice. choose wisely.


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Revelation is like the Kennedy Assassination. You can always dig deeper, find new clues. It's a never-ending rathole. But eventually, if you sit back and just contemplate things rationally -shave a little with Occam's razor - it just leads back to the most simplistic answer.

oh, and one more thing.....

how many here discuss the Ezekiel 38 war? it is 'one simple chapter' long ?


hmmm.


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it ends my friend..........when you find The Truth.



yes, you can find the 'most simplistic answer' if that suits you.

then you see things that don't fit or contradict and down you go.....


Proverbs 1:22 asks, "How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity?"


for some, simplicity never ends. others work harder and smarter.

yur choice. choose wisely.


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And what if I choose poorly where it comes to Revelation? If it's all going to end, then it's all going to end, is it not? It's not like it's going to matter or change anything if I choose to ignore Revelation, is it?

That's just it... I don't see the point.

"But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise..." 1 Corinthians 1:27
 
And what if I choose poorly where it comes to Revelation? If it's all going to end, then it's all going to end, is it not? It's not like it's going to matter or change anything if I choose to ignore Revelation, is it?

you wont change Revelation my friend.

Revelation changes you.


That's just it... I don't see the point.

you will.

"But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise..." 1 Corinthians 1:27

that's for sure.

be blessed my friend, and stop copping out with the Easy Answers. we need to win the World to Jesus, well at least a few of them like @Gordy and @watsup

so get on yur A game friend, cause they have a Play book developed for years of dealing with second rate answers.


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you wont change Revelation my friend.

Revelation changes you.




you will.



that's for sure.

be blessed my friend, and stop copping out with the Easy Answers. we need to win the World to Jesus, well at least a few of them like @Gordy and @watsup

so get on yur A game friend, cause they have a Play book developed for years of dealing with second rate answers.


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I don't know if this is a Catholic thing or not, but the God I worship is pretty plain-spoken - He doesn't seek to confound people with cryptical horror stories. Why would He need to?

I'm not worried much about what anyone else chooses to believe or not believe. Each to his own. It's hard enough for me to find my own way on my spiritual journey, let alone worry about what everyone else chooses to do.
 
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um Sheep, i am totally Revelation based End Times Prophecy........all the time.

now you can see how Gooood the world is getting, go on and tell me.

even YouTube suggests crime is getting worse and End Times.....





maybe guys like @Logician Man will see the Light and cry out for help from above.

maybe.


and get Desperate too my friends.

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um Sheep, i am totally Revelation based End Times Prophecy........all the time.

now you can see how Gooood the world is getting, go on and tell me.

even YouTube suggests crime is getting worse and End Times.....





maybe guys like @Logician Man will see the Light and cry out for help from above.

maybe.


and get Desperate too my friends.

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Ooooohhh... Crime.... What can I say? Jerusalem to Jericho is a rough hood.
 
Ooooohhh... Crime.... What can I say? Jerusalem to Jericho is a rough hood.

true.

but get realistic, the whole Modern world going this way my friend.

Desperate?


maybe, you are. Jamie keeps coming out with these Shorts, see if this fits....





in the end, it fits if you think about it enuf. and Revelation going to get more Intense as we get into 2025....


are you ready friends, or still on the fence. God is waiting, what are you waiting for?


Desperate.

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true.

but get realistic, the whole Modern world going this way my friend.

Desperate?


maybe, you are. Jamie keeps coming out with these Shorts, see if this fits....





in the end, it fits if you think about it enuf. and Revelation going to get more Intense as we get into 2025....


are you ready friends, or still on the fence. God is waiting, what are you waiting for?


Desperate.

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There's always been crime, Revelation... that's why I brought up the Good Samaritan. Nothing new under the Sun.
 
There's always been crime, Revelation... that's why I brought up the Good Samaritan. Nothing new under the Sun.

i know that Cord. used to work in the inner city where people would get killed over a Hamburger. very painful me thinks, how dumb can they get; (don't ask)


but i push Revelation here: all. the. time.

and they still don't get it. for instance, this guy means well but has no clue of Prophecy, and i mean Zero.....


Never!

The Israeli's will never let it happen. They know what is going on in Iran.

We should have solved this problem when Bush had troops in Iraq.

Prophetically that is a deal breaker, Iran is part of the Ezekiel 38 story, as is Russia....

Sort of like we should have turned Patton loose on Russia after WWII while we had everything there and ready.

i used to think like that, it seemed so Simple and so i thought.

then i started studying Prophecy and realized that Russia and Iran/Turkey were some missing pieces and needed to stay Intact till the End of Times and then get wiped out.

usa gets wiped out in Revelation 18, preachers don't like to admit it cause it is a Hard Sell. looking at the characteristics of Mystery Babylon, it becomes painfully obvious.

well there you go people, why things are working as they are and not how we 'think they should go'.



blessings, 2 weeks or until...........we meet again?


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Revelation prophesies that a third of the earth will burn, will this be nuclear war???...

another thread is discussing nuclear war, so i gave them a few details i know about WW three and what will be coming. this war has already been planned and NO negotiation will stop it. the Oligarchs are others so badly want it.....and will get it.

they are not interested in your opinion as you prolly can ascertain if you know what and why they will do this.


the Book of Revelation discusses i believe nuclear war as an Essential Component of End Times living my friends.....



Revelation’s Prophecy: Is the Burning of a Third of the Earth a Nuclear War?​


Revelation 8:7 describes a dramatic event: “The first angel blew his trumpet, and there followed hail and fire, mixed with blood, and these were thrown upon the earth. And a third of the earth was burned up, and a third of the trees were burned up, and all green grass was burned up”

This passage has prompted considerable debate about whether it predicts a literal, physical catastrophe—potentially even a nuclear war.


Traditional and Literal Interpretations


Many scholars and commentators see this as a literal judgment—fire and destruction affecting a third of the earth’s vegetation, reminiscent of the plagues on Egypt (Exodus 9:18–26)

The text does not specify the mechanism, leaving room for various interpretations. Some suggest natural disasters like volcanic eruptions or meteor strikes could fit the description


Nuclear War as a Modern Interpretation


With the advent of nuclear weapons, some interpreters have proposed that Revelation’s imagery could describe the aftermath of nuclear conflict:


  • Ecological devastation: The burning of a third of the earth’s surface, trees, and grass parallels the kind of destruction that could result from widespread nuclear detonations, which would decimate plant life and disrupt global food supplies
  • Atmospheric effects: Other verses in Revelation describe darkness, polluted waters, and widespread death—effects consistent with nuclear fallout, atmospheric soot, and radiation poisoning
  • Modern analogies: Some commentators note that ancient writers would have described nuclear explosions in terms familiar to them—such as “fire from heaven,” “mountains ablaze,” and “the sky receding like a scroll,” all of which could evoke the imagery of mushroom clouds and missile strikes

Is Nuclear War Explicitly Prophesied?


The Bible does not explicitly mention nuclear weapons or modern warfare technologies. The language used in Revelation is highly symbolic and open to multiple interpretations

While some modern readers see parallels with nuclear war, others caution against reading current technology into ancient texts. The original audience would have understood these as acts of divine judgment, whether literal or symbolic.

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well nuff said, this can be an interesting discussion on another thread if you care to jump in: https://debatepolitics.com/threads/when-is-a-nuclear-strike-justified.571612/


blessings all till the end of time and Tribulation.


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All the things in Revelations already happened way back in the first century.
 
All the things in Revelations already happened way back in the first century.

not so, that is called Preterism; it doesn't fit what is written in Revelation my friend.

show me the 'Mark of the Beast' in the first century. (he can't of course, but may try to create some fiction)


well FC created some help for those who consume too much Doooom.....



How to stay informed without doom scrolling It’s important to stay informed during turbulent times, but how do you do it without losing your mind?



Limit your intake​

To ensure your stay informed, pick a time when you can pay attention so

Pick a variety of sources​

Even when the news isn’t that anxiety-provoking, media know that they

Push yourself away from the table​

There will be some days when particular events or news stories capture you,


3 good suggestions Sheep, also good are Bunker development and digging, prepping Beans Bibles and Bullet.

tomorrow July 9, but may be Postponed for Taco reasons.


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Revelation is here now, don't wait for the End..........it is nigh.

run and keep running. dig deeper than you have ever thought possible...




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the Whole World will soon be a Rough hood, the End is Nigh


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blessings, keeep digging deeper. find real Bible church


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