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Revealed: Rudy's '08 battle plans

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New York Daily News - Home - Daily News Exclusive - Ben Smith: Revealed: Rudy's '08 battle plans

Ben Smith of the NY Daily News somehow got hold of Rudy's 140 page "battle plan." He said it was leaked to him by someone who "supported a rival of Rudy's for the White House"


"All will come out - in worst light," the memo continues. "$100 million against us on this stuff."

The pages are photocopied, some including copies of handwritten notes. On one page, two tasks for Giuliani aide Anthony Carbonetti - his closest political adviser and frequent travel companion - are highlighted in yellow.


This is pretty interesting.

The part that I bolded is made even more interesting considering the claim from Rudy's office that it was not lost, but stolen:

 
Bye bye Rudy, been real nice to know you.
 
Bye bye Rudy, been real nice to know you.

Please. Everything in that document was already public knowledge, even if it wasn't widely known; it would have come out in the campaign anyway. The fact that he's acknowledging it and preparing his counter-strategy just shows that he's playing to win.

If he can make the accusation stick, he'll get more mileage with the documents having been stolen than his opponents would get out of using them.
 

This is very true. I mean, honestly, who benefits from Rudy getting his face splashed across the front pages for a couple days talking about his "serious plans" to run for the Presidency?

I would almost be inclined to say it was purposely leaked, but the specificity of the fundraising stuff makes that really unlikely.
 
Obviously he wasn't to careful. They all seem to have skeletons.......so time will tell.

I don't see one candidate that I like on either side.

Potential candidate I meant.........
 
Political Paper Stolen, Giuliani Camp Says


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/03/n...&en=c66c6df1c5ce17af&ei=5094&partner=homepage

I see that the libs have the Sandy Burger syndrome again......you guys really have a problem with lying and stealing don't you?

I am sure it was probably someone from the Hitlery camp as they know that Giuliani has the best chance of beating her.....he wont get my vote though.....
 
Re: Political Paper Stolen, Giuliani Camp Says

So how about it, lefties? Any comments on this?
How about the press knowingly running an article based on a document obtained illegally?
 
What should be done about the newspaper that ran this? They ran an article that was based on STOLEN documents. Shoul dthey walk away untouched? IMO, Rudy should sue them for every single dime they have and then add on a couple of extra million.

What about the people who stole the documents? The newspaper has matierial evidence (both in the documents and the identity of the people who provided them), shoud they be forced to reveal their sources? This issue isn't about Rudy, it's about a newspaper taking advantage of an illegal act in order to make money.
 
What should be done about the newspaper that ran this?

Nothing.They didn't steal the documents, and it's their job to report the news-- including the activities and plans of public figures. Unlike the disgusting morass that is the paparazzi, this newspaper was even admirably focusing on people whose activities and plans affect us.

faithful_servant said:
What about the people who stole the documents?

Eh. If you don't want something to be read in the newspaper, don't write it down.

You're probably asking the wrong person these questions-- I favor transparency over privacy, in almost every instance. If you have secrets... keep them secret.
 
I'm biased for lil "Benito Giuliani". Although, it is humorous that the man who is CEO of Giuliani Partners, which is a security consulting firm, loses his battle plans. But what it comes down to is that this isn't shocking info at all and I'd still throw him my vote unless he changes his positions on things.
 
I might do the same, if he makes the general election. I'm uncomfortable with his position on guns... but he isn't any worse than any of the Democrats on that issue, and he doesn't seem to be in bed with the Inquisition.

Hell, if he gets the nod I might even stop burying food in my backyard.
 
Re: Political Paper Stolen, Giuliani Camp Says

So how about it, lefties? Any comments on this?
How about the press knowingly running an article based on a document obtained illegally?
they are hiding from this one.......:mrgreen:
 

Legally he has absolutely no recourse. If the paper can plausibly claim that they didn't know they were obtained illegally, then they have no liability in the matter. And unless Rudy has other evidence (and I'm talking proof that there only existed one possible way for it to get lost and then video evidence showing a shadowy figure taking it and giving it to the paper), no judge will make the News reveal their source.
 
Re: Political Paper Stolen, Giuliani Camp Says

You're both quite mistaken as to how the law works in this area. It is by no means whatsoever illegal for a newspaper to print something that turns out later to have been stolen (and that's assuming you believe Rudy's camp on this, which I don't necessarily do).

If the paper, at the time of printing, believe the material had been obtained legally (which they did, they reported that the person who handed it over said they found it in a hotel lobby), then they are completely exonerated from liability.

It's not a "lefty/righty" thing, it's just how the law works.
 
He didn't "lose" them, they were stolen. Read first, then type.
 
He didn't "lose" them, they were stolen. Read first, then type.
Lose is the appropriate verb for that situation:
2 : to miss from one's possession or from a customary or supposed place
3 : to suffer deprivation of : part with especially in an unforeseen or accidental manner

Especially since "steal" is purely conjecture right now.
 
Re: Political Paper Stolen, Giuliani Camp Says

they are hiding from this one.......:mrgreen:

Not really. Just no one really cares. Your trying to make this into some big scandalous conspiracy from the left when the documents that were published say nothing of circumstance and could as well been leaked by anyone.

Put your foil hat back on and try again.
 
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