Retired Army general declares Musk a ‘national security risk’ in brutal NYT op-ed

[NolanVoyd]

Oh, how fun facts can be. What is it 'figures don't lie but liars figure' or something close. That story is anything but a deep dive into the actual sources of all that loot. I'm sure you're aware of Act Blue. And please spare me the organizations perfectly above board system. My assertion. the liars do the figures at Act Blue. There are many that believe as I do, for good reason, Act Blue is one of the greasiest and crooked organizations the libtards ever created. 'They only disperse donations of individuals and all are disclosed'. Ahhh, not so much, but I really don't want to go down that rabbit hole with you to try and convince each other of which one of us is right. That Harris was so popular that record numbers flocked to donate an astounding 1 billion beyond her coffers in this election cycle is laughable. A couple of my contentions are, first that's bunk, and second it was created to launder money and allow for foreign contributions. You, I'm sure believe differently. Let's maybe just agree there was a whole lot of money in this last campaign. And just as in 2016 more money does not translate to a win.

I just figured you would want to see the actual numbers.

I guess I was wrong.

 

[tobytone]

I just figured you would want to see the actual numbers.

I guess I was wrong.

Oh, the lovable hive members. Unaware of how the political games are played out in the media. If they were, libtards wouldn't put up with being exploited with clickbait. Pathetic stories with no journalistic integrity written expressly for the wishful thinking hive. The story you're referring to, which you consider the hard, cold 'facts,' is written by some of journalism's top dog leftists, who are much more talented than most and certainly more skilled in deceit. So your factual story is just another lame attempt to fool the uninformed and unaware. Writers fitting that description exist on both sides; they're adept at steering the reader to their pre-established narrative using some facts and, more importantly, leaving out the right ones. I tried to indicate this in my last comment, but it obviously didn't land. No mention of ActBlue and the investigations, accusations of stonewalling, loose verification practices, and evidence of foreign donations, etc. That, along with other facts about fundraising, would be important to anyone attempting to discover the truth about election donations and spending. The hive is not as interested in truth as it is in bias confirmation. Convenient that the lead writer is a well-known leftist.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Oh, the lovable hive members. Unaware of how the political games are played out in the media. If they were, libtards wouldn't put up with being exploited with clickbait. Pathetic stories with no journalistic integrity written expressly for the wishful thinking hive. The story you're referring to, which you consider the hard, cold 'facts,' is written by some of journalism's top dog leftists, who are much more talented than most and certainly more skilled in deceit. So your factual story is just another lame attempt to fool the uninformed and unaware. Writers fitting that description exist on both sides; they're adept at steering the reader to their pre-established narrative using some facts and, more importantly, leaving out the right ones. I tried to indicate this in my last comment, but it obviously didn't land. No mention of ActBlue and the investigations, accusations of stonewalling, loose verification practices, and evidence of foreign donations, etc. That, along with other facts about fundraising, would be important to anyone attempting to discover the truth about election donations and spending. The hive is not as interested in truth as it is in bias confirmation. Convenient that the lead writer is a well-known leftist.

Wow....full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
That was a lot of words with out refutation of a single fact

 

[Pyrite]

Facts.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/biggest-campaign-donors-election-2024/

The 50 biggest donors this cycle have collectively donated over $2.5 billion into political committees and other groups competing in the election, according to a Washington Post analysis of Federal Election Commission data.

These megadonors skew Republican, though they affiliate with Democrats and third parties as well.

Donations by top 50 individuals and organizations to committees that are mostly ...

Republican-leaning
$1.6B


Democrat-leaning
$752.3M


supportive of both parties
$214M
Cryptocurrency and realtor groups were the only donors to both major parties

The vast majority of money from top donors has gone to super PACs, which can accept unlimited sums from individuals and often work closely with campaigns despite rules against coordinating their advertising....

 

[tobytone]

Wow....full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
That was a lot of words with out refutation of a single fact

Wow, If I use one or a million words it wouldn't get through the thick skull of the hivemind. lol I think I made it pretty clear how I would wipe my ass with the 'facts' of the story. Perhaps you missed the part where I explained why and how the writer is a liar through omission. I know you saw it, but I also know the mind of the libtard and how their as good at omitting facts that are contrary to libtard fantasy as the talented hive masters are at omitting facts that don't support the lie they're paid to produce. It all part of the overall libtard world. Granted, it's the easiest place to be, no hard thinking required and you spend all your time in a fantasy world.

 

[Pyrite]

Wow, If I use one or a million words it wouldn't get through the thick skull of the hivemind. lol I think I made it pretty clear how I would wipe my ass with the 'facts' of the story. Perhaps you missed the part where I explained why and how the writer is a liar through omission. I know you saw it, but I also know the mind of the libtard and how their as good at omitting facts that are contrary to libtard fantasy as the talented hive masters are at omitting facts that don't support the lie they're paid to produce. It all part of the overall libtard world. Granted, it's the easiest place to be, no hard thinking required and you spend all your time in a fantasy world.

More excuses for your failure to "refute a single fact".

All talk, no hat describes your posts.

 

[tobytone]

More excuses for your failure to "refute a single fact".

All talk, no hat describes your posts.

I would but the effort would be pointless, it wouldn't matter to any libtard regardless of how clear the evidence is. And the fact is and remains, the libtards lost and are disintegrating into a forgotten nightmare. So go now hivemind and parrot the fantasies like fools and pretend it kills the pain. I won't keep trying to deny you that. A libtard can only take so much before pushed to a 'Luigi'

 

[Pyrite]

I would but the effort would be pointless, it wouldn't matter to any libtard regardless of how clear the evidence is. And the fact is and remains, the libtards lost and are disintegrating into a forgotten nightmare. So go now hivemind and parrot the fantasies like fools and pretend it kills the pain. I won't keep trying to deny you that. A libtard can only take so much before pushed to a 'Luigi'

See?

All you're doing is excusing your inability to refute facts.

 

[tobytone]

See?

All you're doing is excusing your inability to refute facts.

Oh, I've succeeded in my goal of pointing out the inability for the hive or any libtard to make a case from their own mind. It's always the same thing, libtards make little comments approved by other libtards at most a line or two and the real 'hard worker bees' scour the web for supporting links from libtard hive masters. All the time pretending to themselves that they can think independently from the hive. Repeat pattern over and over. Drone lesson complete. ROFL......quick win this argument with one more 'can't refute my libtard story'.

 

[Pyrite]

Oh, the lovable hive members. Unaware of how the political games are played out in the media. If they were, libtards wouldn't put up with being exploited with clickbait. Pathetic stories with no journalistic integrity written expressly for the wishful thinking hive. The story you're referring to, which you consider the hard, cold 'facts,' is written by some of journalism's top dog leftists, who are much more talented than most and certainly more skilled in deceit. So your factual story is just another lame attempt to fool the uninformed and unaware. Writers fitting that description exist on both sides; they're adept at steering the reader to their pre-established narrative using some facts and, more importantly, leaving out the right ones. I tried to indicate this in my last comment, but it obviously didn't land. No mention of ActBlue and the investigations, accusations of stonewalling, loose verification practices, and evidence of foreign donations, etc. That, along with other facts about fundraising, would be important to anyone attempting to discover the truth about election donations and spending. The hive is not as interested in truth as it is in bias confirmation. Convenient that the lead writer is a well-known leftist.

Wow, If I use one or a million words it wouldn't get through the thick skull of the hivemind. lol I think I made it pretty clear how I would wipe my ass with the 'facts' of the story. Perhaps you missed the part where I explained why and how the writer is a liar through omission. I know you saw it, but I also know the mind of the libtard and how their as good at omitting facts that are contrary to libtard fantasy as the talented hive masters are at omitting facts that don't support the lie they're paid to produce. It all part of the overall libtard world. Granted, it's the easiest place to be, no hard thinking required and you spend all your time in a fantasy world.

Oh, I've succeeded in my goal of pointing out the inability for the hive or any libtard to make a case from their own mind. It's always the same thing, libtards make little comments approved by other libtards at most a line or two and the real 'hard worker bees' scour the web for supporting links from libtard hive masters. All the time pretending to themselves that they can think independently from the hive. Repeat pattern over and over. Drone lesson complete. ROFL......quick win this argument with one more 'can't refute my libtard story'.

A lot of words that say, "All I can do is repeat myself as I attack 'the hive' and 'libtards'."

 

[tobytone]

A lot of words that say, "All I can do is repeat myself as I attack 'the hive' and 'libtards'."

It order to get a libtard to agree that the sky is blue (if Trump or Musk made such a comment) would require repetition beyond what what's needed to train a cat to shit in the toilet. It's damn difficult but if you're gonna have any luck you've got to repeat, repeat, repeat. And I tried but the cat still won't shit on the damn toilet. ROFL

 

[NolanVoyd]

Wow, If I use one or a million words it wouldn't get through the thick skull of the hivemind. lol I think I made it pretty clear how I would wipe my ass with the 'facts' of the story. Perhaps you missed the part where I explained why and how the writer is a liar through omission. I know you saw it, but I also know the mind of the libtard and how their as good at omitting facts that are contrary to libtard fantasy as the talented hive masters are at omitting facts that don't support the lie they're paid to produce. It all part of the overall libtard world. Granted, it's the easiest place to be, no hard thinking required and you spend all your time in a fantasy world.

You say a lot of insult laden crap but can't refute a single thing.

Lol.

You are flailing.

Just stop.

Adress the facts or don't. But stop with the hot air which amounts to nothing but childish insults.

 

[NolanVoyd]

It order to get a libtard to agree that the sky is blue (if Trump or Musk made such a comment) would require repetition beyond what what's needed to train a cat to shit in the toilet. It's damn difficult but if you're gonna have any luck you've got to repeat, repeat, repeat. And I tried but the cat still won't shit on the damn toilet. ROFL

And you still can't refute a single thing.

You know you can't compete on substance so you blow a lot of smoke and insults.

You aren't very good at this

 

[soap box]

Oh, I've succeeded in my goal of pointing out the inability for the hive or any libtard to make a case from their own mind. It's always the same thing, libtards make little comments approved by other libtards at most a line or two and the real 'hard worker bees' scour the web for supporting links from libtard hive masters. All the time pretending to themselves that they can think independently from the hive. Repeat pattern over and over. Drone lesson complete. ROFL......quick win this argument with one more 'can't refute my libtard story'.

Actually you've shown how you're unable to respond to anything and your main rhetorical device is saying libtard. Other than that, I don't know what you want out of this because you haven't really said much at all.

 

[tobytone]

You say a lot of insult laden crap but can't refute a single thing.

Lol.

You are flailing.

Just stop.

Adress the facts or don't. But stop with the hot air which amounts to nothing but childish insults.

Hey, those are carefully chosen terms. They sum up the mindset of the left. That's not my fault and here's a fact not even the hive can deny. You can skip right by, or only read as much as your attention span can handle. I couldn't possible care any less what the hive thinks of it. I not attempting to make allies with left. And, I won't apologize for being winded, when my mind starts snappin' my fingers get to tappin'. Having diarrhea of the keyboard It's preferable to one line libtard lines used in every thread or slapping up a meme and pretending it represents a thought. I've been tapping along again hoping your hanging in their for one more long comment. lol. lol. lol. lol. I hope you liked that.

 

[Pedestrian]

He writes:

"According to numerous interviews and remarks, Mr. Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency co-leader, Vivek Ramaswamy, once appeared to believe he was. In May 2023, Mr. Ramaswamy went so far as to publicly state, “I have no reason to think Elon won’t jump like a circus monkey when Xi Jinping calls in the hour of need,” a reference to China’s leader. In a separate X post targeting Mr. Musk, he wrote, “the U.S. needs leaders who aren’t in China’s pocket.”

...Mr. Musk’s business ventures are heavily reliant on China. He borrowed at least $1.4 billion from banks controlled by the Chinese government to help build Tesla’s Shanghai gigafactory, which was responsible for more than half of Tesla’s global deliveries in the third quarter of 2024.

China does not tend to give things away. The country’s laws stipulate that the Communist Party can demand intelligence from any company doing business in China, in exchange for participating in the country’s markets.

...Mr. Musk’s relationship with China’s leaders could prove a problem for America’s national security given that SpaceX has a near monopoly on the United States’ rocket launches. The United States is in an intense space race with China. In a May interview, Maj. Gen. Gregory J. Gagnon, the deputy chief of space operations for intelligence at the U.S. Space Force, said that there has never been a buildup comparable to what the Chinese are attempting in space — not even during World War II — and that “an adversary arming this fast is profoundly concerning.” The last thing the United States needs is for China to potentially have an easier way of obtaining classified intelligence and national security information.

Mr. Musk already has a history of pleasing the Chinese Communist Party. He heaped praise on Mr. Xi to commemorate the party’s 100th anniversary. In 2022, earning thanks from Chinese officials, he went to bat for the party by arguing that Taiwan should become a special administrative region of China.

In May 2023, Mr. Musk also reportedly told Qin Gang, then the Chinese foreign minister, that Tesla opposed the United States decoupling from China, stating that U.S. and Chinese interests are “intertwined like conjoined twins.”"

Link

Troubling.

When will people understand that in capitalism, everything and everybody but family and friends go under the bus...for a profit and sometimes, even them.

Now even America's national security as well as our country's health and life expectancy go under the bus for a profit.

 

[tobytone]

And you still can't refute a single thing.

You know you can't compete on substance so you blow a lot of smoke and insults.

You aren't very good at this

Hey, those are carefully chosen terms. They sum up the mindset of the left. That's not my fault and here's a fact not even the hive can deny. You can skip right by, or only read as much as your attention span can handle. I couldn't possible care any less what the hive thinks of it. I not attempting to make allies with left. And, I won't apologize for being winded, when my mind starts snappin' my fingers get to tappin'. Having diarrhea of the keyboard It's preferable to one line libtard lines used in every thread or slapping up a meme and pretending it represents a thought. I've been tapping along again hoping your hanging in their for one more long comment. lol. lol. lol. lol. I hope you liked that. Opps, did I copy that?

 

[NolanVoyd]

Hey, those are carefully chosen terms. They sum up the mindset of the left. That's not my fault and here's a fact not even the hive can deny. You can skip right by, or only read as much as your attention span can handle. I couldn't possible care any less what the hive thinks of it. I not attempting to make allies with left. And, I won't apologize for being winded, when my mind starts snappin' my fingers get to tappin'. Having diarrhea of the keyboard It's preferable to one line libtard lines used in every thread or slapping up a meme and pretending it represents a thought. I've been tapping along again hoping your hanging in their for one more long comment. lol. lol. lol. lol. I hope you liked that.

More blowing of insult laden smoke.........not a single refutation of a single fact.

All hat no cattle.

Pathetic.

 

[tobytone]

Actually you've shown how you're unable to respond to anything and your main rhetorical device is saying libtard. Other than that, I don't know what you want out of this because you haven't really said much at all.

I'll tell you what, I pulled off one feat, That was a lot of words and barely repeated the same line I've seen in almost ever thread. The hive's favorite line when they can't defend there moronic stories and the click bait they attempt using in place of an argument, that is, an argument that comes from your mind, not a hive message. lol love the consistency though.

 

[Pedestrian]

Actually you've shown how you're unable to respond to anything and your main rhetorical device is saying libtard. Other than that, I don't know what you want out of this because you haven't really said much at all.

Agreed. Isn't Musk and illegal ?

 

[tobytone]

More blowing of insult laden smoke.........not a single refutation of a single fact.

All hat no cattle.

Pathetic.

And yet another point. lol This entire thread is an insult to the intelligence of the American people not in the hive. Libtards whine about insults while nearly every line they parrot is either a direct or backhanded insult. So you can whine if you want to but it's no nevermind to me.

 

[EnchantedMuggle]

And yet another point. lol This entire thread is an insult to the intelligence of the American people not in the hive. Libtards whine about insults while nearly every line they parrot is either a direct or backhanded insult. So you can whine if you want to but it's no nevermind to me.

Did somebody say..."the hive"?

 

[Tangmo]

Aww did I hurt your feelings by pointing out your nonsense.

To bad.

Sorry to disappoint but I don't have feelings for the touch of your posts that across the threads are consistently about the poster rather than the topic. Your flash in the pan posts.

Something else you don't know is that the thread and topic are LTG ret. Honore saying Musk is a "threat to national security" because Xi Jinping owns Musk and because Musk owns Donald Trump. And that this is in addition to the standing fact Putin has had controlling interest in the Donald Trump presidency to include controlling interest in Donald Trump as commander in chief.

So if your posts were serious they would be about the topic. But then again one would need to have knowledge and interest about what's under discussion. Your posts have yet to make that breakthrough to the level of LTG ret. Honore and what he says and is discussing. My suggestion is to pretend Honore is here and he's all ears for you. And that you cold turkey don't know my posts exist.

 

[hooligan]

What were the earmarks that were on the laptop?

I have no idea what you're referring to with "earmarks".

 

[hooligan]

Oh yes, that's right for their disinformation campaign they spent $100,000 on. Oh wait, the Russians spread misinformation about all candidates in all western nations along with all adversaries of the U.S.. It definitely had an impact.
Wake up or actually don't. The Country will always need a nice little sample of radical left wing libtard thoughts and actions to remind us of what almost happened. I know I'll be showing my grandkids.

Almost forgot Don Jr.'s "if it's what they say, I love it" comment. I know if I was running for office and anyone anywhere in the world made comments or leaked damning emails or hired hacks to draft a report full of absurd debunk accusations or anything that damaged my opponent I'd never say, I love it. Not one politician would do such a thing, NEVER

Your deflections do absolutely nothing to change the facts.

Russian's spreading misinformation does not make Manafort and the Trump campaign HELPING THEM do that OK.

Accepting help from foreign nationals to damage your political opponents is illegal. Period.

Keep swinging, though. It's very entertaining.