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Researchers quietly planned a test to dim sunlight. They wanted to ‘avoid scaring’ the public.

This thread is a troll.
Well it's actually quite an old story, from around May of last year.


The idea behind cloud brightening concepts is to increase the number of water droplets within low-level ocean clouds to boost their reflectivity and potentially make the clouds last longer. That process could lead clouds to reflect more sunlight to space. It wouldn’t help with other climate problems, like ocean acidification, and some researchers are concerned that, at scale, it could shift atmospheric circulation with unintended consequences.

Scientists are far from even experimenting on that level. On the aircraft carrier’s deck, the researchers were simply using a machine that looks like a snowmaker to spray saltwater.

But when asked about why they were keeping this under wraps:

“It fuels conspiracy theories. It fuels concerns there’s a set of privileged actors doing this behind the scenes without public input,” he said.

Because it fuels conspiracy theories, just like the one Nola is trying to spew here. Oh we have weather manipulation, we have climate manipulation, blah blah blah. Some small scale test that amounted to blowing salt water into the air....lol.
 
Hundreds of documents show how researchers failed to notify officials in California about a test of technology to block the sun’s rays — while they planned a much huger sequel. 

A team of researchers in California drew notoriety last year with an aborted experiment on a retired aircraft carrier that sought to test a machine for creating clouds.  

But behind the scenes, they were planning a much larger and potentially riskier study of salt water-spraying equipment that could eventually be used to dim the sun’s rays — a multimillion-dollar project aimed at producing clouds over a stretch of ocean larger than Puerto Rico.

The details outlined in funding requests, emails, texts and other records obtained by POLITICO’s E&E News raise new questions about a secretive billionaire-backed initiative that oversaw last year’s brief solar geoengineering experiment on the San Francisco Bay.

They also offer a rare glimpse into the vast scope of research aimed at finding ways to counter the Earth’s warming, work that has often occurred outside public view. Such research is drawing increased interest at a time when efforts to address the root cause of climate change — burning fossil fuels — are facing setbacks in the U.S. and Europe. But the notion of human tinkering with the weather and climate has drawn a political backlash and generated conspiracy theories, adding to the challenges of mounting even small-scale tests.


If someone talked about the weather being manipulated, you were branded a conspiracy theorist who believes in chemtrails. Well, well.

Politico confirms they have been doing weather experiments.
Politico confirmed that they planned and then aborted the experiments.

This doesn't prove anything regarding current CT's.
 
So allegedly they were doing an offshoot of cloud seeding? Cloud creation? And this somehow proves that we have climate manipulation techniques?

lol
Aren’t you a proponent of man made climate change theory? 😂
 
Might take more than a small scale, ocean water spray test.

🤣 🤣 🤣
You don’t find it ironic that on the one hand you’re a proponent of man made climate change theory and on the other hand don’t believe in “climate manipulation techniques?”
 
You don’t find it ironic that on the one hand you’re a proponent of man made climate change theory and on the other hand don’t believe in “climate manipulation techniques?”
You mean I don't see irony in a small scale, ocean water spray test and accusations of the conspiracy theory that we possess weather disruption/creation technology already?

No, I don't see that.

Climate change is driven by all sorts of variables from natural phenomenon to impacts of global human pollution, that is true. But do we have a hurricane-ray gun? No.

lol
 
You mean I don't see irony in a small scale, ocean water spray test and accusations of the conspiracy theory that we possess weather disruption/creation technology already?
Every adverse weather event is ascribed to anthropological climate change these days. So you’re now taking the position that Anthropological climate change is a conspiracy theory?
 
Hundreds of documents show how researchers failed to notify officials in California about a test of technology to block the sun’s rays — while they planned a much huger sequel. 

A team of researchers in California drew notoriety last year with an aborted experiment on a retired aircraft carrier that sought to test a machine for creating clouds.  

But behind the scenes, they were planning a much larger and potentially riskier study of salt water-spraying equipment that could eventually be used to dim the sun’s rays — a multimillion-dollar project aimed at producing clouds over a stretch of ocean larger than Puerto Rico.

The details outlined in funding requests, emails, texts and other records obtained by POLITICO’s E&E News raise new questions about a secretive billionaire-backed initiative that oversaw last year’s brief solar geoengineering experiment on the San Francisco Bay.

They also offer a rare glimpse into the vast scope of research aimed at finding ways to counter the Earth’s warming, work that has often occurred outside public view. Such research is drawing increased interest at a time when efforts to address the root cause of climate change — burning fossil fuels — are facing setbacks in the U.S. and Europe. But the notion of human tinkering with the weather and climate has drawn a political backlash and generated conspiracy theories, adding to the challenges of mounting even small-scale tests.


If someone talked about the weather being manipulated, you were branded a conspiracy theorist who believes in chemtrails. Well, well. Politico confirms they have been doing weather experiments.
Texas isn't going to flood itself, dude.

Oh. Wait.
 
A piece of water larger than Puerto Rico?

So, still bloody tiny and not large enough to have even a small impact on a regions weather?
It is a small area compared globally, but 3,500 sq. miles is large enough to affect weather. Lake Tahoe is only 195 sq. miles, and the Tahoe Basin creates its own weather which affects the eastern slope of the Sierra. There's lake effect snow around the Great Lakes that occurs in smaller areas than 3,500 sq. mi.

It's a considerable area. Placed over Northern Nevada, it would bring rain to the entire region including Lake Tahoe. From the North Valleys to Gardnerville Ranchos and from Truckee to Fallon. The farmers in Fallon would love it. Those who choose to live with the possibility of 20 ft. of snow at Tahoe probably wouldn't.
 
Every adverse weather event is ascribed to anthropological climate change these days. So you’re now taking the position that Anthropological climate change is a conspiracy theory?
Are you trying to say we have a hurricane-ray gun?
 
Are you trying to say we have a hurricane-ray gun?
Are you sticking with every adverse weather event is caused by your emissions but we don’t have the technology to affect weather? Can’t have it both ways.
 
That movie... is a mess, such a mess, both cuts. But then again the first Highlander movie is also a mess, and I don't really get why people liked it.
Its the kind of awful movie that I love watching with my kids where we can have fun and laugh together (and then confuse my wife with terrible inside jokes).
 
Are you sticking with every adverse weather event is caused by your emissions but we don’t have the technology to affect weather? Can’t have it both ways.
Where have I made that argument?

And are you saying that no human action could have compounding effects on global climate over decades of pollution? Can't have it both ways.
 
You don’t find it ironic that on the one hand you’re a proponent of man made climate change theory and on the other hand don’t believe in “climate manipulation techniques?”


Scale, look at the scale

A ship spraying water vapor into the atmosphere

Vs

The bulk of humanity burning fossil fuels

One is very small scale, the other orders of magnitude larger
 
Scale, look at the scale

A ship spraying water vapor into the atmosphere

Vs

The bulk of humanity burning fossil fuels

One is very small scale, the other orders of magnitude larger
The fact is that you want us to believe every adverse weather event is a product of climate manipulation. Are you sticking with that or not?
 
Everyone certainly not,

That the climate is changing in part due to man yes.

Forest fires in Canada in the last 15 years or so are far worse than the previous 70 years at least.
 
So allegedly they were doing an offshoot of cloud seeding? Cloud creation? And this somehow proves that we have climate manipulation techniques?

lol
And adding SALT to the air over the ocean. SCARY. (sarc)
 
Hundreds of documents show how researchers failed to notify officials in California about a test of technology to block the sun’s rays — while they planned a much huger sequel. 

A team of researchers in California drew notoriety last year with an aborted experiment on a retired aircraft carrier that sought to test a machine for creating clouds.  

But behind the scenes, they were planning a much larger and potentially riskier study of salt water-spraying equipment that could eventually be used to dim the sun’s rays — a multimillion-dollar project aimed at producing clouds over a stretch of ocean larger than Puerto Rico.

The details outlined in funding requests, emails, texts and other records obtained by POLITICO’s E&E News raise new questions about a secretive billionaire-backed initiative that oversaw last year’s brief solar geoengineering experiment on the San Francisco Bay.

They also offer a rare glimpse into the vast scope of research aimed at finding ways to counter the Earth’s warming, work that has often occurred outside public view. Such research is drawing increased interest at a time when efforts to address the root cause of climate change — burning fossil fuels — are facing setbacks in the U.S. and Europe. But the notion of human tinkering with the weather and climate has drawn a political backlash and generated conspiracy theories, adding to the challenges of mounting even small-scale tests.


If someone talked about the weather being manipulated, you were branded a conspiracy theorist who believes in chemtrails. Well, well. Politico confirms they have been doing weather experiments.
I don't understand what they plan to accomplish with this do they really think we should have fewer crops and less vitamin d?
 
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