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Repubs...what is your endgame?

george48

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What is your vision for the land of the free?

3 Ideas floated by project 25

1: Ban Porn

2: All staffers are lackies to his majesty Donald

3: Make the country into a ✝️ theocracy were belief is mandatory (forced prayer)

Are you in other words cool with America being like Afghanistan but Christian (Christians according to right wingers)
 
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george48 said:
What is your vision for the land of the free?

3 Ideas floated by project 25

1: Ban Porn
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It's a terrible idea, which is endorsed by project 2025:

Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered
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The good news is Trump himself is a pervert who would never go for this.


george48 said:
2: All staffers are lackies to his majesty Donald
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Just like any government that has ever existed. The whole point is to centralize power at the top.

george48 said:
3: Make the country into a ✝️ theocracy were belief is mandatory (forced prayer)
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There is nothing about "forced prayer" in project 2025.
 
aociswundumho said:
I don't have a bookface account, so I can't read that. Just post the text from the 900+ page project 2025 document.
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Here, I'll help you out:

I issued guidance making clear that the right of freedom to worship does not end at the door at a public school, and I supported school prayer. Very important, school prayer, which we unfortunately had to force into some schools. It should be very easy. You would think it would be very easy, but it wasn't. But we did it. I was the first and only president to convene a meeting of the United Nations to end religious persecution worldwide, the first time they've ever done it. They were not thrilled, but that was OK. They did it. I signed an executive order to install faith advisors in every federal department and agencies, so that your voice and the Christian worldview would be heard in the halls of power in Washington and all over the world.
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The quote above is the entire quote from the beginning of the sentence. The part in green is where the FB link conveniently begins. The obvious intent is to exclude vital context that shows us Trump just wants to allow people to pray at public school so that their 1st amendment rights are not violated, not that Trump wants to force everyone at school to pray as the redacted quote suggests could be the case. Seems that FB poster thinks his viewers are dunces who are incapable of looking up the entire quote.
 
george48 said:
What is your vision for the land of the free?

3 Ideas floated by project 25

1: Ban Porn

2: All staffers are lackies to his majesty Donald

3: Make the country into a ✝️ theocracy were belief is mandatory (forced prayer)

Are you in other words cool with America being like Afghanistan but Christian (Christians according to right wingers)
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There are literally thousands of political initiatives every single election cycle. To cherry-pick one and pretend like it single-handedly has enormous influence over policymaking is just plain stupid. It's either maliciously manipulative to highlight it, or it's motivated by pure ignorance.

Think tanks are business-as-usual variables in national and state politics. They try to get referendums off the ground, only succeed in extremely rare circumstances when the initiative has strong public support, and they always have hundreds of pages of potential referendums that never see the light of day. Project 2025 is no different and it will be no more or less effective than any of the thousands of other initiatives.
 
george48 said:
What is your vision for the land of the free?

3 Ideas floated by project 25

1: Ban Porn

2: All staffers are lackies to his majesty Donald

3: Make the country into a ✝️ theocracy were belief is mandatory (forced prayer)

Are you in other words cool with America being like Afghanistan but Christian (Christians according to right wingers)
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Pooping on golden toidies?
 
george48 said:
What is your vision for the land of the free?

3 Ideas floated by project 25

1: Ban Porn

2: All staffers are lackies to his majesty Donald

3: Make the country into a ✝️ theocracy were belief is mandatory (forced prayer)

Are you in other words cool with America being like Afghanistan but Christian (Christians according to right wingers)
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There is no "end game". MAGA will be an ongoing thing, for centuries to come. America has rejected the Democrat dream.
 
Cosmo said:
Here, I'll help you out:



The quote above is the entire quote from the beginning of the sentence. The part in green is where the FB link conveniently begins. The obvious intent is to exclude vital context that shows us Trump just wants to allow people to pray at public school so that their 1st amendment rights are not violated, not that Trump wants to force everyone at school to pray as the redacted quote suggests could be the case. Seems that FB poster thinks his viewers are dunces who are incapable of looking up the entire quote.
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I support the right for children to have a prayer by themselves in some corner during recess. This “now our classroom is going to pray to Jesus and you’re welcome to stay silent” stuff has no place in a public classroom. If it happens, then there should be an equal right to now force the entire same class go through another prayer to another God and again tell the students they can stay silent if they don’t want to pray to Muhammad, Buddha, Luke Skywalker etc. as the class spends the next several hours running through prayer after prayer.
 
phoenix2020 said:
I support the right for children to have a prayer by themselves in some corner during recess. This “now our classroom is going to pray to Jesus and you’re welcome to stay silent”
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Well I'm getting 0 hits from Trump, or from anything for that matter, for this quote, so I'm not sure what your point with it is:
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phoenix2020 said:
stuff has no place in a public classroom. If it happens, then there should be an equal right to now force the entire same class go through another prayer to another God and again tell the students they can stay silent if they don’t want to pray to Muhammad, Buddha, Luke Skywalker etc. as the class spends the next several hours running through prayer after prayer.
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phoenix2020 said:
If it happens, then there should be an equal right to now force the entire same class go through another prayer to another God
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So you're against teaching subjective religious beliefs, but I'd bet the farm you have no problem indoctrinating these same kids with progressive political beliefs.
 
george48 said:
What is your vision for the land of the free?

3 Ideas floated by project 25

1: Ban Porn
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Lie

george48 said:
2: All staffers are lackies to his majesty Donald
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Lie

george48 said:
3: Make the country into a ✝️ theocracy were belief is mandatory (forced prayer)
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Lie
george48 said:
Are you in other words cool with America being like Afghanistan but Christian (Christians according to right wingers)
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Can Marxists do anything but lie?

All we can do is laugh at the temper tantrums the Marxists throw,
 
aociswundumho said:
It's a terrible idea, which is endorsed by project 2025:



The good news is Trump himself is a pervert who would never go for this.




Just like any government that has ever existed. The whole point is to centralize power at the top.



There is nothing about "forced prayer" in project 2025.
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There is nothing about outlawing pornography for adults either.

It doesn't keep the toddlers on the left from lying and throwing a tantrum.

Before any of the Marxists start lying - here is the actual text.

 
Uncensored2008 said:
There is nothing about outlawing pornography for adults either.
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Yes there is. On page 5:

It [porn] has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned.
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phoenix2020 said:
I support the right for children to have a prayer by themselves in some corner during recess.
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That's big of you.

I'm sure you would demand that the state dictate what the words of the prayer are,

phoenix2020 said:
This “now our classroom is going to pray to Jesus and you’re welcome to stay silent” stuff has no place in a public classroom.
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Maybe the issue is government classrooms.

phoenix2020 said:
If it happens, then there should be an equal right to now force the entire same class go through another prayer to another God and again tell the students they can stay silent if they don’t want to pray to Muhammad, Buddha, Luke Skywalker etc. as the class spends the next several hours running through prayer after prayer.
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Good argument for ending government schools.

If we want public financing, vouchers are the answer...
 
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