REPUBLICANS SNEAK NONPROFIT KILLER BILL INTO THE TAIL END OF TRUMP’S 389-PAGE TAX PLAN (1 Viewer)

[Cosmo]

Salaries are expenses, not income.

Is there a point to your post?

 

[soap box]

That's what they're counting on.

Do you think colleges and universities should pay taxes? Trump thinks Harvard should pay taxes, should they all pay taxes?

 

[Cosmo]

Do you think colleges and universities should pay taxes? Trump thinks Harvard should pay taxes, should they all pay taxes?

Yes.

 

[soap box]

Yes.

Why?

 

[AliHajiSheik]

Why? Do you try to sneak up on my when I'm looking in a mirror?

This isn't what qualifies as civilized debate. Accusing the poster of being a peeping tom is low

 

[eohrnberger]

After a quick review of your post, I don’t see how these groups can be connected to the support of terrorism.

Of course not. This probably due to a case of severe ideological blindness.

How is a saying like “from the river to the sea,” the advocacy for a Palestinian state,

It is, actually, advocacy for the destruction of the Israeli state. You should know this.

or any pro-Hamas rhetoric any different than that of radical Israeli settlers who displace Palestinians from homes they’ve lived in for years,

any different than the apartheid form of governance that exists in Israel?

There is no 'apartheid form of governance' in Israel. You should also know this.

I don’t support either side described above.

Regardless, I don't support NGOs or non-profit organizations which feed money and support to Hamas, a known terrorist organization.
I have no issue with taking steps to thwart them as well as thwarting the flow of their money and support to Hamas.

 

[Spock]

Is there a point to your post?

Profit = income - expenses

 

[snakestretcher]

Well, I can't read the bill since the stupid website requires my email so it's all I have to offer.

I am not signing up for spam from some liberal piece of trash news site.

Is that the best you can do-dismiss it because of a minor inconvenience-your email? Speaking of pieces of trash; been on 'Truth' Social recently, because that's where most of it emanates from.

 

[snakestretcher]

It allows the sec of Treasury to strip organizations of tax exempt status if he or she deems it a 'terrorist organization.'

The article is paywalled. But there is nothing wrong with doing this, as long as there is some coordination with the state dept as to what is considered by the USA a 'terrorist organization.'

Who gets to decide what is a "terrorist" organisation and what isn't? Trump; just like he refused entry to a French scientist because something critical of Trump was found on his phone. A paranoid, sociopathic and ego-driven snowflake-and a fascist, all in one; not a good mix.

French scientist denied US entry after phone messages critical of Trump found

France’s research minister said the scientist was traveling to Houston for a conference when his phone was searched

www.theguardian.com

 

[Athanasius68]

Who gets to decide what is a "terrorist" organisation and what isn't? Trump; just like he refused entry to a French scientist because something critical of Trump was found on his phone. A paranoid, sociopathic and ego-driven snowflake-and a fascist, all in one; not a good mix.

French scientist denied US entry after phone messages critical of Trump found

France’s research minister said the scientist was traveling to Houston for a conference when his phone was searched

www.theguardian.com

The law says the president makes that determination.

 

[snakestretcher]

Of course not. This probably due to a case of severe ideological blindness.


It is, actually, advocacy for the destruction of the Israeli state. You should know this.




There is no 'apartheid form of governance' in Israel. You should also know this.


Regardless, I don't support NGOs or non-profit organizations which feed money and support to Hamas, a known terrorist organization.
I have no issue with taking steps to thwart them as well as thwarting the flow of their money and support to Hamas.

Lies, lies, lies-and all emanating from Israel's Ministry of Propaganda, almost verbatim.

 

[snakestretcher]

The law says the president makes that determination.

Really? So he gets to make unilateral decisions, irrespective of their legality or whatever Congress has to say? It's like his stacks of EOs; he seems to believe directives are automatically law. Welcome to the United Authoritarian States of America.

 

[Athanasius68]

Really? So he gets to make unilateral decisions, irrespective of their legality or whatever Congress has to say? It's like his stacks of EOs; he seems to believe directives are automatically law. Welcome to the United Authoritarian States of America.

The law lays out the criteria for an entity to be declared a terrorist organization.

 

[eohrnberger]

Lies, lies, lies-and all emanating from Israel's Ministry of Propaganda, almost verbatim.

This post is simply parroting Hamas propaganda.

"From the river to the sea" is in fact advocacy for the destruction of the Israeli state. You should know this.
This is a true statement.

. . .when Palestinians and supporters advocate for a state that runs “From the River to the Sea,” their intent includes the death or destruction of the Jews in Israel. Hamas’s 2017 charter “rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea.” In 2012, Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal said, “Palestine is ours from the river to the sea and from the south to the north. There will be no concession on any inch of the land.”

What Does "From The River to The Sea" Really Mean?

The chant often heard at pro-Palestine demonstrations these days is “From the River to the Sea, Palestine shall be free.” But what does it really mean? • “From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free” is a common slogan associated with the Israel-Hamas war but it has a long, complex, and...

www.mideastjournal.org

"There is no 'apartheid form of governance' in Israel. You should also know this."
This is also a true statement, and has been posted previously.

Given that:

List of Arab members of the Knesset - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(a list of 10 members who appear to have served a number of years)

as well as:

Muslim man, Mizrahi woman picked to serve as Supreme Court justices, both firsts

Judicial Selection Committee makes 4 new appointments, including 2 women; justice minister says appointments represent 'a variety of opinions, genders and ethnic backgrounds'

www.timesofisrael.com

which 'apartheid-like situation' are you referring to?​

I guess it's pretty clear who's suffering from the influence of a propaganda campaign here.

 

[Girlpower]

Is that the best you can do-dismiss it because of a minor inconvenience-your email? Speaking of pieces of trash; been on 'Truth' Social recently, because that's where most of it emanates from.

I have not been on Truth-Social for a while.

I am registered but rarely use it.

 

[OlNate]

One requirement of non-profits is they must serve for the public good. What constitutes 'public good' is debatable. Teaching and educating our kids is certainly in the public good. But once a school become political talking piece then it becomes far more questionable. My view is there's a difference between educating kids about the difference in political opinion vs using a school as a tool for protest, demonstration and social change.

Education itself is a tool for social change, it always has been because it can't help but be,, and when you have politicians attacking education, well, it's hard for it not to be poltical.

 

[OlNate]

Why?

Because Trump said so, why else do you think these people shoot themselves in the foot every day?

 

[OlNate]

The law lays out the criteria for an entity to be declared a terrorist organization.

Not arguing at this point, just curious and want to be right on this one going forward, can you please point me in the direction of the specific law that grants the president this power?

 

[Athanasius68]

Not arguing at this point, just curious and want to be right on this one going forward, can you please point me in the direction of the specific law that grants the president this power?

Technical Difficulties

 

[Nickyjo]

Of course not. This probably due to a case of severe ideological blindness.


It is, actually, advocacy for the destruction of the Israeli state. You should know this.




There is no 'apartheid form of governance' in Israel. You should also know this.


Regardless, I don't support NGOs or non-profit organizations which feed money and support to Hamas, a known terrorist organization.
I have no issue with taking steps to thwart them as well as thwarting the flow of their money and support to Hamas.

Both Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International as well as former Israeli officials have characterized it as like apartheid Reports of this easy to find on line.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Republicans Sneak Nonprofit Killer Bill Into the Tail End of Trump’s 389-Page Tax Plan

It would give the Trump administration the power to strip the tax-exempt status of any nonprofit it deems a “terrorist-supporting organization.”

theintercept.com

It would give the Trump administration the power to strip the tax-exempt status of any nonprofit it deems a “terrorist-supporting organization.”

More stomping out dissent and going after anything that isn’t inline with their dog shit far right extremist views.

More gov overreach and authoritarian abuse.

This will be the reason that bill doesn't pass.

It will also be another reason why the republican scumsuckers lose control of congress in 2027.

 

[Airyaman]

Hopefully this monstrosity will be killed in the Senate.

 

[eohrnberger]

Both Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International as well as former Israeli officials have characterized it as like apartheid Reports of this easy to find on line.

All you are presenting with this argument is:

An argument from authority[a] is a form of argument in which the opinion of an authority figure (or figures) is used as evidence to support an argument.[1]​

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The argument from authority is a logical fallacy,[2] and obtaining knowledge in this way is fallible.[3][4]​

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A common cognitive bias is that it is a practical and sound way of obtaining knowledge that some presume to be correct when the authority is universally accepted, though some consider this to be an obvious circular reasoning and repetition of an argument from authority[1][5][6][7][8][9][10] and others consider to be a very weak defeasible argument or an outright fallacy.[2][11][12][13][14] The mere fact that an authority can be wrong or decide to lie means any appeal to authority must be further proved through valid logical deduction of the evidence anyway.[15][16][17]​

Argument from authority - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[upsideguy]

I've gotten things that help me with day-to-day life from Amazon. Haven't gotten shit from Harvard.

Completely irrelevant, as its not about you.

That said, many of the "things that help you in day to day life", including perhaps how and why you are living today, has come from government funded research conducted at American research universities. Maybe you should look it this, as ignorance is to way to live son.

 

[Nickyjo]

All you are presenting with this argument is:

An argument from authority[a] is a form of argument in which the opinion of an authority figure (or figures) is used as evidence to support an argument.[1]​

​

The argument from authority is a logical fallacy,[2] and obtaining knowledge in this way is fallible.[3][4]​

​

A common cognitive bias is that it is a practical and sound way of obtaining knowledge that some presume to be correct when the authority is universally accepted, though some consider this to be an obvious circular reasoning and repetition of an argument from authority[1][5][6][7][8][9][10] and others consider to be a very weak defeasible argument or an outright fallacy.[2][11][12][13][14] The mere fact that an authority can be wrong or decide to lie means any appeal to authority must be further proved through valid logical deduction of the evidence anyway.[15][16][17]​

Argument from authority - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Both the organizations have reported on all countries in the region (as well as the world) for decades. True, their analysis can be challenged. But why not read their reports and understand or contest their characterizations?

Amnesty’s support begins with a story of people about to forcibly evicted from homes they had occupied since about 1948. HRWatch speaks of Jewish Israelis having superior status when it comes to access to land, freedom to build or to move.