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Republicans shoot down Democratic request to ditch party-line immigration push and write a bipartisan bill instead

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Senate Republicans are making it clear they will pursue a border package without Democratic input, despite the obstacles they face in going their own way.

The push came in a letter Wednesday to Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., which was led by Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., and signed by 12 other Democrats, most of them from politically competitive states.

“We understand that Senate Republicans have discussed using the budget reconciliation process to advance border security budget measures without any Democratic input. While that’s your right, in working together on a bipartisan basis, we can achieve the best outcome for the American people,” the Democrats wrote. “We remain ready to work with you in good faith to craft legislation that can achieve bipartisan support and 60 votes in the Senate.”

Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., laughed out loud when he was asked about the letter and whether Republicans might accept the overture.

“That’s a letter we will ignore,” Johnson said in an interview.

“We’re not going to wait for them. If they want to secure the border, they could have done that,” he added. “That’s not what they want.”


SLAP!!! The Senate Democrats get what they deserve.

But the Senate Republicans don't even have to write a bill. They can dig the House bill - HR 1 - that Schumer stashed away back in 2023, dust it off and use that as a good starting point.

We'll see if the Senate GOP Elites are really serious this time around. I won't be holding my breath.
 
Senate Republicans are making it clear they will pursue a border package without Democratic input, despite the obstacles they face in going their own way.​
The push came in a letter Wednesday to Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., which was led by Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., and signed by 12 other Democrats, most of them from politically competitive states.​
“We understand that Senate Republicans have discussed using the budget reconciliation process to advance border security budget measures without any Democratic input. While that’s your right, in working together on a bipartisan basis, we can achieve the best outcome for the American people,” the Democrats wrote. “We remain ready to work with you in good faith to craft legislation that can achieve bipartisan support and 60 votes in the Senate.”​
Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., laughed out loud when he was asked about the letter and whether Republicans might accept the overture.​
“That’s a letter we will ignore,” Johnson said in an interview.​
“We’re not going to wait for them. If they want to secure the border, they could have done that,” he added. “That’s not what they want.”​

SLAP!!! The Senate Democrats get what they deserve.

But the Senate Republicans don't even have to write a bill. They can dig the House bill - HR 1 - that Schumer stashed away back in 2023, dust it off and use that as a good starting point.

We'll see if the Senate GOP Elites are really serious this time around. I won't be holding my breath.
Yeah, I heard one this morning advocating for that same POS bill they tried to pass that was crap and did't do anyting to stop the flood of illegals. Democrats aren't known for working well with others. Progressives better wise up or they aren't going to see the white house for 12 years.
 
Democrats never met a immigration bill they couldn't water down and render totally useless. Immigration (illegal or otherwise) to them is all about minting new (D) voters. When the Mexicans started voting for Trump, Democrats started reaching into the bowels of Central and South America looking for replacements. Who cares if the county is screwed up in the process. Remember the ends justify the means.
 
Senate Republicans are making it clear they will pursue a border package without Democratic input, despite the obstacles they face in going their own way.​
The push came in a letter Wednesday to Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., which was led by Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., and signed by 12 other Democrats, most of them from politically competitive states.​
“We understand that Senate Republicans have discussed using the budget reconciliation process to advance border security budget measures without any Democratic input. While that’s your right, in working together on a bipartisan basis, we can achieve the best outcome for the American people,” the Democrats wrote. “We remain ready to work with you in good faith to craft legislation that can achieve bipartisan support and 60 votes in the Senate.”​
Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., laughed out loud when he was asked about the letter and whether Republicans might accept the overture.​
“That’s a letter we will ignore,” Johnson said in an interview.​
“We’re not going to wait for them. If they want to secure the border, they could have done that,” he added. “That’s not what they want.”​

SLAP!!! The Senate Democrats get what they deserve.

But the Senate Republicans don't even have to write a bill. They can dig the House bill - HR 1 - that Schumer stashed away back in 2023, dust it off and use that as a good starting point.

We'll see if the Senate GOP Elites are really serious this time around. I won't be holding my breath.
And this is a good example of being more about trying to look like they are winning, rather than actually serving their country. Trump and his people have no interest in doing good for the country, they just want to fool the sheeple into thinking they do. And the sheeple love to praise and applaud those ****ing them inn the ass...
 
And this is a good example of being more about trying to look like they are winning, rather than actually serving their country. Trump and his people have no interest in doing good for the country, they just want to fool the sheeple into thinking they do. And the sheeple love to praise and applaud those ****ing them inn the ass...
This has nothing to do with Trump. This is all about the Senate.
 
I say let MAGA run the country. The people voted for them. Get out of their way and give them their chance. Give the people what they want. They deserve it.
 
Why would any new "border package" be needed, I thought all responsibility for the state of the border rests with the President and his magic wand for fixing it?
 
This has nothing to do with Trump. This is all about the Senate.
Sure it does. Who do you think is in charge of these efforts, and whose negotiation style do you think is being used?
 
One party writing a bipartisan bill is an oxymoron.
 
Senate Republicans are making it clear they will pursue a border package without Democratic input, despite the obstacles they face in going their own way.​
The push came in a letter Wednesday to Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., which was led by Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., and signed by 12 other Democrats, most of them from politically competitive states.​
“We understand that Senate Republicans have discussed using the budget reconciliation process to advance border security budget measures without any Democratic input. While that’s your right, in working together on a bipartisan basis, we can achieve the best outcome for the American people,” the Democrats wrote. “We remain ready to work with you in good faith to craft legislation that can achieve bipartisan support and 60 votes in the Senate.”​
Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., laughed out loud when he was asked about the letter and whether Republicans might accept the overture.​
“That’s a letter we will ignore,” Johnson said in an interview.​
“We’re not going to wait for them. If they want to secure the border, they could have done that,” he added. “That’s not what they want.”​

SLAP!!! The Senate Democrats get what they deserve.

But the Senate Republicans don't even have to write a bill. They can dig the House bill - HR 1 - that Schumer stashed away back in 2023, dust it off and use that as a good starting point.

We'll see if the Senate GOP Elites are really serious this time around. I won't be holding my breath.

Tell you what. Put penalties in there for people who hire Illegals and I will believe that you want to end illegal immigrants. Make it hurt. A million a day per illegal. A couple decades in prison. Something serious.
 
Tell you what. Put penalties in there for people who hire Illegals and I will believe that you want to end illegal immigrants. Make it hurt. A million a day per illegal. A couple decades in prison. Something serious.
Well, if that's what you want, then you should be all for HR 2. You do know what that is, right?
 
Well, if that's what you want, then you should be all for HR 2. You do know what that is, right?

I looked at it. A lot of get the Illegal and nothing about penalizing those who hire the illegals.


Now again. Want my support? Easy enough to get. All you have to do is put heavy serious penalties on those who hire Illegals.

You know. The way we do with drug dealers. Simple possession is bad. But selling the drugs is a much more serious crime.

Being here illegally is bad. But hiring one should be much, much, worse don’t you think?
 
I looked at it. A lot of get the Illegal and nothing about penalizing those who hire the illegals.


Now again. Want my support? Easy enough to get. All you have to do is put heavy serious penalties on those who hire Illegals.
You didn't read the entire summary, did you.

TITLE VIII--LEGAL WORKFORCE

This title requires employers to use an electronic employment eligibility verification system modeled after the E-Verify program and addresses other issues related to employment eligibility.

(Sec. 801) This section requires all employers to use the electronic employment eligibility verification system established under section 802 of this bill. The section also makes other changes to the requirements for employers to confirm the identity and employment eligibility of new employees, such as by imposing additional limits on the documents which may be used to verify an individual's identity and employment eligibility.

(Sec. 807) This section increases the civil monetary penalties for hiring, recruiting, and referral violations involving unauthorized workers and establishes that failing to use the verification system established by this title constitutes such a violation. The section also increases the criminal penalties for engaging in a pattern or practice of such violations.


DHS may debar an individual or entity from receiving federal contracts and grants for repeat hiring violations (including failures to use the verification system) or a criminal conviction for such a violation.

DHS shall also establish an office to (1) receive information from state and local agencies about potential hiring, recruiting, and referral violations involving unauthorized workers, and (2) investigate claims based on such information.


(Sec. 808) This section establishes that an individual who knowing misuses a document meant to establish work authorization is subject to fines, imprisonment for up to five years, or both. (Currently, the statute in question only refers to misusing identification documents.)

That's just some it.
 
You didn't read the entire summary, did you.

TITLE VIII--LEGAL WORKFORCE​
This title requires employers to use an electronic employment eligibility verification system modeled after the E-Verify program and addresses other issues related to employment eligibility.
(Sec. 801) This section requires all employers to use the electronic employment eligibility verification system established under section 802 of this bill. The section also makes other changes to the requirements for employers to confirm the identity and employment eligibility of new employees, such as by imposing additional limits on the documents which may be used to verify an individual's identity and employment eligibility.
(Sec. 807) This section increases the civil monetary penalties for hiring, recruiting, and referral violations involving unauthorized workers and establishes that failing to use the verification system established by this title constitutes such a violation. The section also increases the criminal penalties for engaging in a pattern or practice of such violations.
DHS may debar an individual or entity from receiving federal contracts and grants for repeat hiring violations (including failures to use the verification system) or a criminal conviction for such a violation.
DHS shall also establish an office to (1) receive information from state and local agencies about potential hiring, recruiting, and referral violations involving unauthorized workers, and (2) investigate claims based on such information.
(Sec. 808) This section establishes that an individual who knowing misuses a document meant to establish work authorization is subject to fines, imprisonment for up to five years, or both. (Currently, the statute in question only refers to misusing identification documents.)

That's just some it.

That’s not a penalty.

If I have Drugs in my home I would lose the home when caught under Civil Asset Forfeiture. Seize farms that hire illegals. Seize businesses that use them as Janitors. The whole building lock, stock, and furniture.

Make the penalties serious. If the cops find drugs in my car, even if I was unaware they were in the car, I’d lose the car to Civil Asset Forfeiture wouldn’t I? If a friend, or an Uber Passenger dropped them I would be the one penalized.

I’m saying do that. Don’t let the guy take fake ID’s and get a free pass. He knew the person was an Illegal when they spoke no English. A Citizen would speak English.

Get serious man. They’ve had the ID phone lines for decades and it hasn’t stopped any Illegals. Seize the property where the illegal action took place at a minimum. And I mean bare minimum. I’d rather see long prison sentences and huge fines, but I’ll accept property seized under Civil Asset Forfeiture.
 
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