Republicans seek IRS probe of AARP

megaprogman said:

This is interesting since old people is one of the republican's core base.

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That has nothing to do with being against the AARP, I said in an earlier post my wife and I ripped up our cards and told them to take us off all mailing lists, I recieve Nothing from the AARP anymore. They outright lied to seniors about obamacare, they blindly supported it without having a clue what was going to be in the bill.

A look behind the curtain at why AARP endorsed Obamacare:

By putting enormous price controls (cuts) in the Medicare Advantage program, many seniors will be forced to look to the other Medicare supplemental offer, MediGap. It just so happens that AARP sells MediGap coverage to its members. The income generated from those sales accounts for 60.3% of AARP’s revenues, ten years ago, this income only accounted for 10% of their budget.

So, in short, the Obama Health Care Scheme puts hundreds of millions of dollars in AARP’s coffers by forcing seniors off of Medicare Advantage and into MediGap programs. You would think that this was enough of a payback to the AARP for their support. But Big Government now reveals another little prize that has been awarded to AARP in time for their recent official endorsement of the Senate Bill.

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Not convinced they should at least be investigated?

The AARP Foundation will have received over $100 million in Federal grants by the end of this fiscal year. Last fiscal year they received less than $80,000,000. That is a hell of an increase in this economy. But would AARP sell out their membership for a mere $20,000,000 increase in Federal Grants? It’s not quite as simple as that. The bigger question is: “Why does AARP continue to back a Health Care Scheme which seems to work directly against the interests of their members?”

The answer is: At this point, the AARP doesn’t NEED to care about their members. Frankly, they don’t NEED their members at all. Let’s look at the numbers:

•The AARP annual membership fee is $16.00.
•In 2007 AARP earned about $500 million in MediGap royalties
•In 2008 it earned $652 million in MediGap royalties
•The 2009 numbers have not yet been released, but given the trends, it’s looking pretty good for AARP.
•Add to that the $100 million in federal grants (that’s your money they are getting for free)

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» Behind the Curtain: Why AARP Supports ObamaCare - Big Government

Grants up $20 million in 2010. Who says you can't bribe a nonprofit into selling out its membership?

disneydude said:

The GOP has ALWAYS hated seniors and sees them as moochers. They would love nothing more than to eliminate social security (They have been trying to do it for decades) and screw seniors to benefit their corporate bedbuddies.

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Laughable comment but not surprising coming from you. Seniors preferred Republicans by a 19 point margin in the 2010 election.

Seniors have almost always voted conservatively.

megaprogman said:

This is interesting since old people is one of the republican's core base.

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I agree...but there are a lot of people who are for whatever reason are republican and vote against their own interests. If you are working class, middle class, gay, minority, any religion other than "Christian"....I cannot understand WHY you would ever vote Republican. The GOP cares about no one other than the Wealthy....right-wing so called "Christians" and whites.

disneydude said:

I agree...but there are a lot of people who are for whatever reason are republican and vote against their own interests. If you are working class, middle class, gay, minority, any religion other than "Christian"....I cannot understand WHY you would ever vote Republican. The GOP cares about no one other than the Wealthy....right-wing so called "Christians" and whites.

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What has the Democrat Party done for you?

Besides try to control every aspect of your entire life........
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megaprogman said:

This is interesting since old people is one of the republican's core base.

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Yes it is and the old people were pretty po'ed at AARP over Obamacare. Looks like the Republicans know what they are doing.

Badmutha said:

....well you dont want one of those EVIL CORPORATIONS skipping out on a tax bill it should be paying...........do you?
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No I don't. Why should they be able to not pay taxes when I have to?

I don't like large taxes on corporations, but I do think they should have to pay the taxes they are legally obligated to pay. Like I am.

Barbbtx said:

Refusal to compromise on what?

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Let's try an example to demonstrate conservative hubris:

In 2009:

House Democratic leaders on Tuesday unveiled a sweeping $1 trillion health care reform bill that would impose a surtax on the wealthy and create a robust government-run insurance program that would cover more than 30 million uninsured Americans.*

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Obviously, this wasn't the whole bill, and it certainly wasn't the bill that passed, but I think we can work from here. Conservatives successfully fought against this proposal. I won't, yet, get into what did eventually pass because I first want to ask you a question:

First, propose a conservative solution, and then describe a compromise solution somewhere in between the proposal democrats fielded, and your own. Show me that a conservative is willing to compromise.

I was tepid toward the bill that eventually passed, it being watered way down, but felt it was better than nothing. And it was a bill that faced some of the trade offs in a creative manner, well suited as a compromise for a diverse population. I soon realized that the country was not ready for the necessities that are inevitable, but that is beside the point. I accepted the compromise, along with many, many other liberals.

So tell me, I ask again, what does it look like when conservatives compromise?

Dezaad said:

Let's try an example to demonstrate conservative hubris:

In 2009:

Obviously, this wasn't the whole bill, and it certainly wasn't the bill that passed, but I think we can work from here. Conservatives successfully fought against this proposal. I won't, yet, get into what did eventually pass because I first want to ask you a question:

First, propose a conservative solution, and then describe a compromise solution somewhere in between the proposal democrats fielded, and your own. Show me that a conservative is willing to compromise.

I was tepid toward the bill that eventually passed, it being watered way down, but felt it was better than nothing. And it was a bill that faced some of the trade offs in a creative manner, well suited as a compromise for a diverse population. I soon realized that the country was not ready for the necessities that are inevitable, but that is beside the point. I accepted the compromise, along with many, many other liberals.

So tell me, I ask again, what does it look like when conservatives compromise?

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:rofl Not compromising on that was piece of crap was why the republicans were given a second chance in 2010. They've promised to repeal it.
Sure the bill had a couple good things in it, but you don't take a few fresh vegetables, add it to a pile of dog **** and be expected to eat your vegetables.
Let's just keep the veggies..'K?

disneydude said:

Wow....here we go again...first it was the public workers, now the GOP is seeking to wage war against senior citizens. When will the GOP insanity stop?

House Republicans seek IRS probe of AARP - Yahoo! News

AARP lobbied for the new health care law and now it stands to profit, Republican lawmakers charged Wednesday as they called for the IRS to investigate whether the powerful interest group representing older Americans should be stripped of its federal tax exemption.

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Take it easy, so one said a word about going after seniors.

AARP has fooled people for years into thinking they were out to help people.

However the fact is AARP is in it for the cash profits and if by some chance a Senior benefits well that's okay.

AARP is like the Environmentally Ill Organizations that may have at some point had a mission worthy of our support but those days have long since past.

Why do you think AARP backed Obama Care? It was because AARP has their own supplemental Insurance and stands to make a bundle off it.

Barbbtx said:

:rofl Not compromising on that was piece of crap was why the republicans were given a second chance in 2010. They've promised to repeal it.
Sure the bill had a couple good things in it, but you don't take a few fresh vegetables, add it to a pile of dog **** and be expected to eat your vegetables.
Let's just keep the veggies..'K?

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Thank you for proving my point: conservatives are congenitally unable to even conceive of what compromise is. This lack of imagination also explains why they interpret events as entirely supportive of their agenda, even in the face of much evidence to the contrary.

I rest my case. Thanks again.

AARP lobbied for the new health care law and now it stands to profit, Republican lawmakers charged Wednesday as they called for the IRS to investigate whether the powerful interest group representing older Americans should be stripped of its federal tax exemption.

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And of course it should. AARP is a special interest lobbying group and it certainly does not represent "senior citizens" as a group. It's always touting left wing causes and thus cannot be said to be unbiased or even representative of those over 55.

disneydude said:

I agree...but there are a lot of people who are for whatever reason are republican and vote against their own interests. If you are working class, middle class, gay, minority, any religion other than "Christian"....I cannot understand WHY you would ever vote Republican.

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Because they care about America, of course. Voting Republican is the only effective way of voting against the Democrats, and we all know how much they hate the ideas America was founded on.

rocket88 said:

No I don't. Why should they be able to not pay taxes when I have to?

I don't like large taxes on corporations, but I do think they should have to pay the taxes they are legally obligated to pay. Like I am.

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Because no business entity ever pays taxes. That particular expense is passed on to the customer, so it's the American citizen paying the tax, not the business.

Dezaad said:

First, propose a conservative solution,

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1) "Hey, look! You're sick. Hope you have enough money to pay for your doctor. Perhaps it's a shame the Congress didn't exercise it's real authority under the Commerce Clause to allow interstate health insurance shopping. It opted instead to presume powers it did not have to impose government bureaucracy on the nation's health care. That worked well for the DMV, it will work well for your TB and HIV."

2) "Hey, look! You're sick. Gee, I bet you're wishing you bought insurance for yourself like mature adults are supposed to, now aren't you. Tell you what, that Rolex you're wearing? I'll give you ten bucks for it."

3) "Hey, look! You're sick. And you had the sense to buy insurance for yourself. And it carries a catastrophic rider because your appendicitis is going to cost a fortune. Good thing you had enough sense to act like a grown up."

The alternative:

1) "Hey, look! You're sick. Let's see here....your National ID says you're 79 years old....retired...hmmmm..your tax records show you have three million dollars in assets....good thing we made it illegal for private doctors to operate in the US on anyone but Congressmen and their families. Since you are no longer a productive member of society, your request for treatment is denied. Please inform your heirs that your estate will be mostly the government's soon."

2) "Ew. I don't have to talk to you, I'm in the union and I'm just required to sit in this receptionist's chair, I DO NOT have to talk to you sick people. Sure am glad the government took over the nation's health care. I feel fine. I used to work for the TSA."

There's no compromise between the free market and the controlled market. Government health care won't work, Obamacare is proving this.

Clearly, AARP, like teachers, is an evil that must be destroyed. Welcome to America. It sucks ass lately.

I guess we will see a sting video real soon from Fox's fave undercover guy.

disneydude said:

Wow....here we go again...first it was the public workers, now the GOP is seeking to wage war against senior citizens. When will the GOP insanity stop?

House Republicans seek IRS probe of AARP - Yahoo! News

AARP lobbied for the new health care law and now it stands to profit, Republican lawmakers charged Wednesday as they called for the IRS to investigate whether the powerful interest group representing older Americans should be stripped of its federal tax exemption.

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I support this, they market health care insurance for United Health Care, I don't see why they should have a special tax status.