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Republicans Defend Palin's Earmark History, Say She's Changed

Hatuey

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I have to wonder how does one go from supporting ridiculous earmarks for your state in February to being a 'pork barrelers nightmare' in August.
 
I have to wonder how does one go from supporting ridiculous earmarks for your state in February to being a 'pork barrelers nightmare' in August.

Easy. Start running on the Presidential ticket.

It's not like she's going to have to convince the most intelligent people in the world.
 
Dude, if the federal government waved a billion dollars in front of my state and my governor didn't pick up on it, I'd never vote for him/her again.

She was representing ALASKA then. Not the US. It was her job to look out for the interest of her state and bring in as much revenue as she can. I am sure that, as VP, she would look out for the interests of the US just as diligently as she looked out for the interests of Alaska.
 
Asking for earmarks is one of the main ways in which small towns get funding. If she hadn't asked for earmarks when she was mayor, she wouldn't have been doing her job.

Now, she's in a position where her job description doesn't include asking for earmarks. It's perfectly normal to expect that her position on the issue would change.

A defense attorney might think a criminal is guilty as sin, but they're bound to provide them the best representation that they can, however they can. If that attorney later becomes a judge and cracks down on procedural maneuvering by defense attorneys that is designed to slow down the docket, is that person suddenly a hypocrite?
 
Asking for earmarks is one of the main ways in which small towns get funding. If she hadn't asked for earmarks when she was mayor, she wouldn't have been doing her job.

She said she opposed the bridge to nowhere BEFORE she became VP pick.

Now, she's in a position where her job description doesn't include asking for earmarks. It's perfectly normal to expect that her position on the issue would change.

In other words it's okay for her to support earmarks and then oppose them.


English?
 
She said she opposed the bridge to nowhere BEFORE she became VP pick.



In other words it's okay for her to support earmarks and then oppose them.



English?

C'mon Hatuey. RightNYC made perfect sense. That's very easy to understand bro. What part didn't you understand? Maybe I can help.
 
She said she opposed the bridge to nowhere BEFORE she became VP pick.

How does that weaken my point?

In other words it's okay for her to support earmarks and then oppose them.

It's okay to advocate for two different sets of constituents at two different times.

When Obama was a state senator, he was representing his district's interest against those of the other districts in IL. When Obama became a Senator, he was suddenly representing his whole state's interests against those of the other states. Those IL districts which he had previously worked against didn't hold his past actions against him, because now he represented them as well. Now he's running for president, and seeking to represent the entire country's interests. The other states which he's worked against aren't holding it against him, simply because he advocated for IL over IN or OH as a Senator.


She was just doing her job.
 
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Lobbying for federal money that is wasted on so few people is not doing her Job. She took money that should have gone to other states, and now she should have to answer to those states. If you want to be vice president of the U.S., enriching your town at the expense of the nation is unacceptable.
 
Lobbying for federal money that is wasted on so few people is not doing her Job

How do you define "wasted?" What makes you the arbiter of where things should go? Don't you think...Congress is in charge of that?

She took money that should have gone to other states, and now she should have to answer to those states.

How do you determine what "should" have gone elsewhere?

If you want to be vice president of the U.S., enriching your town at the expense of the nation is unacceptable.

I don't think she was planning on running for VP when she was the mayor of Wasilla. That's part of her appeal.
 
How do you define "wasted?"

15 million dollars was spent to connect a town of 2000 to a town of 6700. Thats 1700 dollars per person. You would be better off buying used cars for every family in the town to drive and giving them money for gas.

What makes you the arbiter of where things should go?

This is a political debate forum. We debate our views on politics. My view is that this money should have gone to pay down the deficit, not wasted to build a nearly useless train.

Don't you think...Congress is in charge of that?

They are, but they do a terrible job of managing money. Palin shouldn't have ask for the money and congress should not have authorized it. Both are at fault.

How do you determine what "should" have gone elsewhere?

Paying the 15 million now towards the deficit means we don't have to pay the 15 million plus interest in the future. Thats a better use of the money than a train for a tiny number of people.

I don't think she was planning on running for VP when she was the mayor of Wasilla. That's part of her appeal.

Thats nice, but her actions involved her hurting the nation. Thats bad for someone who might end up leading it.
 
15 million dollars was spent to connect a town of 2000 to a town of 6700. Thats 1700 dollars per person. You would be better off buying used cars for every family in the town to drive and giving them money for gas.

Considering that Congress wasn't about to pass a bill to give everyone there a new car, I don't think those people would consider it to be wasted.

This is a political debate forum. We debate our views on politics. My view is that this money should have gone to pay down the deficit, not wasted to build a nearly useless train.

What train?

If you think the money was allocated poorly, then blame the people who made the decision to authorize it: Congress.

Wanna know something funny? In 2005, Tom Coburn introduced an amendment to strip the funds for the Bridge to Nowhere. It was defeated by a vote of 82-15.

Guess who voted to keep the funding for the Bridge to Nowhere?

Sens. Barack Obama and Joseph Biden.

They are, but they do a terrible job of managing money. Palin shouldn't have ask for the money and congress should not have authorized it. Both are at fault.

If someone comes up to you and offers you money that would benefit you, do you turn it down?

Paying the 15 million now towards the deficit means we don't have to pay the 15 million plus interest in the future. Thats a better use of the money than a train for a tiny number of people.

Blame Congress.

Thats nice, but her actions involved her hurting the nation. Thats bad for someone who might end up leading it.

...but they were intended to help the people she WAS representing. I don't understand why this is such a hard concept. It's called vigorous representation. Read my above response to Hatuey.
 
I for one don't mind earmarks. Some states, like Alaska, really need them. What DOES bother me is Palin standing before the American people and flat out lying about them.

Palin did not tell Congress "thanks but no thanks", Congrees stripped the bridge from the bill, and gave Alaska the money with no strings attached. Only AFTER Alaska recieved the money did she decide she was against the bridge, and decided to spend the money on other projects.

NY Times Article
 
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