Republican AG says he'll investigate Indiana doctor who provided care to 10-year-old rape victim

[Nomad4Ever]

Republican AG says he'll investigate Indiana doctor who provided care to 10-year-old rape victim

The account about the girl has sparked intense dialogue in Washington, with some questioning its validity.

www.politico.com

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Indiana’s Republican attorney general said on Wednesday that his office planned to investigate the Indiana doctor who helped a 10-year-old rape victim who crossed state lines to have an abortion.

Dr. Caitlin Bernard, an obstetrician-gynecologist in Indianapolis, has told multiple outlets that she provided care to the 10-year-old after a child abuse doctor in Ohio contacted her. The child was six weeks and three days into the pregnancy, Bernard said. After the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last month, a wave of state-level abortion restrictions took effect, including in Ohio, a state that bans abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy, with no exceptions for rape or incest.

“We’re gathering the evidence as we speak, and we’re going to fight this to the end, including looking at her licensure if she failed to report. And in Indiana it’s a crime … to intentionally not report,” state Attorney General Todd Rokita said on Fox News on Wednesday night. “This is a child, and there’s a strong public interest in understanding if someone under the age of 16 or under the age of 18 or really any woman is having abortion in our state. And then if a child is being sexually abused, of course parents need to know. Authorities need to know. Public policy experts need to know.”

Abortion in Indiana is banned after 22 weeks of pregnancy, with some exceptions for medical emergencies. There are strict reporting requirements in both Ohio and Indiana for abortions and rape allegations.

Aside from Rokita’s warning, it’s not yet clear whether Indiana will actually prosecute Bernard. But abortion rights activists and legal experts have been warning for weeks of the unprecedented legal risks doctors face in the wake of Roe’s fall.
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I got in multiple arguments with members of this forum that exactly what we are seeing here would not happen. That conservatives would not care if women went to other states to get abortions and that this was a state's rights issue. Even though abortion is legal until 22 weeks they are still trying to find ANYTHING they can to punish this doctor for performing an abortion ON A 10 YEAR OLD RAPE VICTIM. Keeping in mind that Ohio's abortion laws have no exception for rape, which is an affront to human decency in the first place.

I will keep saying this, because it is continued to prove true. Follow the reasoning to its logical conclusion. Why would people who think abortion is literally comparable to murder NOT go after people who commit "mUrdEr" in other states? Why wouldn't they start charging women with sentences comparable to murder charges? Why wouldn't they go after women who have miscarriages? Why wouldn't they try to ban "child murder" federally? I've heard conservatives say Roe was WORSE than the holocaust because more people were killed. These are all the logical conclusions a person who believes abortion is murder would support.

 

[Mr Person]

If they tell you you're behaving like Chicken Little and you don't need to worry about whether they intend to do a thing, they are going to do that thing. In most cases, they've already done it.

The clean-up followed shortly after the news of the arrest. Ohio Republican Rep. Jim Jordan deleted a tweet in which he had called the story “another lie.” The Wall Street Journal editorial page had to walk back on an editorial titled “An Abortion Story Too Good To Confirm” that called the case a “fanciful” tale. And Yost, who originally cast doubt on the story, tweeted on Wednesday that his “heart aches” for the child and that he was grateful for the arrest — not acknowledging his previous skepticism.​

Meanwhile our oh-so-honest DP Trumpists just ran away and pretended they'd never claimed the story was a lie.

 

[slavablueberryjam]

We need a new party that isn't made of the rift-raft of the other two parties. Things in this nation are only going to get worse. American mentality != human being.

 

[Moon]

Republican AG says he'll investigate Indiana doctor who provided care to 10-year-old rape victim

The account about the girl has sparked intense dialogue in Washington, with some questioning its validity.

www.politico.com

[snip]
Indiana’s Republican attorney general said on Wednesday that his office planned to investigate the Indiana doctor who helped a 10-year-old rape victim who crossed state lines to have an abortion.

Dr. Caitlin Bernard, an obstetrician-gynecologist in Indianapolis, has told multiple outlets that she provided care to the 10-year-old after a child abuse doctor in Ohio contacted her. The child was six weeks and three days into the pregnancy, Bernard said. After the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last month, a wave of state-level abortion restrictions took effect, including in Ohio, a state that bans abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy, with no exceptions for rape or incest.

“We’re gathering the evidence as we speak, and we’re going to fight this to the end, including looking at her licensure if she failed to report. And in Indiana it’s a crime … to intentionally not report,” state Attorney General Todd Rokita said on Fox News on Wednesday night. “This is a child, and there’s a strong public interest in understanding if someone under the age of 16 or under the age of 18 or really any woman is having abortion in our state. And then if a child is being sexually abused, of course parents need to know. Authorities need to know. Public policy experts need to know.”

Abortion in Indiana is banned after 22 weeks of pregnancy, with some exceptions for medical emergencies. There are strict reporting requirements in both Ohio and Indiana for abortions and rape allegations.

Aside from Rokita’s warning, it’s not yet clear whether Indiana will actually prosecute Bernard. But abortion rights activists and legal experts have been warning for weeks of the unprecedented legal risks doctors face in the wake of Roe’s fall.
[snip]

I got in multiple arguments with members of this forum that exactly what we are seeing here would not happen. That conservatives would not care if women went to other states to get abortions and that this was a state's rights issue. Even though abortion is legal until 22 weeks they are still trying to find ANYTHING they can to punish this doctor for performing an abortion ON A 10 YEAR OLD RAPE VICTIM. Keeping in mind that Ohio's abortion laws have no exception for rape, which is an affront to human decency in the first place.

I will keep saying this, because it is continued to prove true. Follow the reasoning to its logical conclusion. Why would people who think abortion is literally comparable to murder NOT go after people who commit "mUrdEr" in other states? Why wouldn't they start charging women with sentences comparable to murder charges? Why wouldn't they go after women who have miscarriages? Why wouldn't they try to ban "child murder" federally? I've heard conservatives say Roe was WORSE than the holocaust because more people were killed. These are all the logical conclusions a person who believes abortion is murder would support.

From the article it sounds like Dr. Bernard is being investigated for failing to report a rape and child abuse. Is that not a reasonable thing for the government to do considering it’s a legal requirement?

 

[Bok Tuklo]

I know it will be difficult to hide but I genuinely hope the garbage Internet people in the Republican Party do not find out who this girl is. Her life is hellish enough without them adding to her trauma.

 

[SuperDS77]

From the article it sounds like Dr. Bernard is being investigated for failing to report a rape and child abuse. Is that not a reasonable thing for the government to do considering it’s a legal requirement?

Great point / question. I agree that it is reasonable.

Will we be able to find common ground with our liberal friends on even this basic point?

 

[Nomad4Ever]

From the article it sounds like Dr. Bernard is being investigated for failing to report a rape and child abuse. Is that not a reasonable thing for the government to do considering it’s a legal requirement?

Not in that article so I can't fault you, however;

According to police testimony cited by the Dispatch, the rape was reported to child services in Ohio, which is how police learned of the crime.

Bernard was the first to report the 10-year-old’s abortion, telling the Star she was asked by a colleague in Ohio if she could take the child after she was denied care there.

“Rokita has been thirsty to get on Fox News since this story developed, and has fabricated a witch hunt at the hands of the State to get his 15 seconds,” Indiana Secretary of State candidate Destiny Wells, the deputy chair of Indiana’s Democratic Party, tweeted Wednesday. “It’s an abuse of office, and a travesty for the safety and health of women. This cannot stand.”

Indiana Investigates Doctor Who Helped 10-Year-Old Rape Victim Obtain Abortion — Even Though It’s Still Legal There

The AG said the state would instead look into whether the physician had violated its rules for reporting the abortion.

www.forbes.com

He did report the case. This is nothing but a manufactured witch hunt to punish a doctor who dared perform an abortion on a child fleeing Ohio's despotic laws.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

From the article it sounds like Dr. Bernard is being investigated for failing to report a rape and child abuse. Is that not a reasonable thing for the government to do considering it’s a legal requirement?

We should probably just put this sea lion to bed:


Columbus police were made aware of the girl's pregnancy through a referral by Franklin County Children Services that was made by her mother on June 22, Det. Jeffrey Huhn testified Wednesday morning at Fuentes' arraignment. On June 30, the girl underwent a medical abortion in Indianapolis, Huhn said.

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[TU Curmudgeon]

If they tell you you're behaving like Chicken Little and you don't need to worry about whether they intend to do a thing, they are going to do that thing. In most cases, they've already done it.

The clean-up followed shortly after the news of the arrest. Ohio Republican Rep. Jim Jordan deleted a tweet in which he had called the story “another lie.” The Wall Street Journal editorial page had to walk back on an editorial titled “An Abortion Story Too Good To Confirm” that called the case a “fanciful” tale. And Yost, who originally cast doubt on the story, tweeted on Wednesday that his “heart aches” for the child and that he was grateful for the arrest — not acknowledging his previous skepticism.​

Meanwhile our oh-so-honest DP Trumpists just ran away and pretended they'd never claimed the story was a lie.

What you are looking at is almost straight out of "The Ministry of Truth" in Orwell's "1984".

What was the case in the past is never denied, it simply ceases to exist and what is the current truth is what the truth has always been.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

We should probably just put this sea lion to bed:


Columbus police were made aware of the girl's pregnancy through a referral by Franklin County Children Services that was made by her mother on June 22, Det. Jeffrey Huhn testified Wednesday morning at Fuentes' arraignment. On June 30, the girl underwent a medical abortion in Indianapolis, Huhn said.

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Is the doctor required to report a rape that has already been reported?

Since all of the other doctors in the state now know that the rape occurred, does that mean that all of the other doctors in the state are now required to report it?

 

[Moon]

We should probably just put this sea lion to bed:


Columbus police were made aware of the girl's pregnancy through a referral by Franklin County Children Services that was made by her mother on June 22, Det. Jeffrey Huhn testified Wednesday morning at Fuentes' arraignment. On June 30, the girl underwent a medical abortion in Indianapolis, Huhn said.

The Link

I’m sure Indiana has different reporting requirements than Ohio, and it’s the Indiana AG doing the investigating. If the girl received medical care in Indiana related to an abortion, Indiana’s reporting requirements would also have to be followed.

And stop with the sea lion bullshit. You’re better than that.

 

[Moon]

Not in that article so I can't fault you, however;

Indiana Investigates Doctor Who Helped 10-Year-Old Rape Victim Obtain Abortion — Even Though It’s Still Legal There

The AG said the state would instead look into whether the physician had violated its rules for reporting the abortion.

www.forbes.com

He did report the case. This is nothing but a manufactured witch hunt to punish a doctor who dared perform an abortion on a child fleeing Ohio's despotic laws.

He reported it in Ohio, but the abortion took place in Indiana. Was the rape and child abuse reported in Indiana?

 

[Slartibartfast]

Republican AG says he'll investigate Indiana doctor who provided care to 10-year-old rape victim

The account about the girl has sparked intense dialogue in Washington, with some questioning its validity.

www.politico.com

[snip]
Indiana’s Republican attorney general said on Wednesday that his office planned to investigate the Indiana doctor who helped a 10-year-old rape victim who crossed state lines to have an abortion.

Dr. Caitlin Bernard, an obstetrician-gynecologist in Indianapolis, has told multiple outlets that she provided care to the 10-year-old after a child abuse doctor in Ohio contacted her. The child was six weeks and three days into the pregnancy, Bernard said. After the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last month, a wave of state-level abortion restrictions took effect, including in Ohio, a state that bans abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy, with no exceptions for rape or incest.

“We’re gathering the evidence as we speak, and we’re going to fight this to the end, including looking at her licensure if she failed to report. And in Indiana it’s a crime … to intentionally not report,” state Attorney General Todd Rokita said on Fox News on Wednesday night. “This is a child, and there’s a strong public interest in understanding if someone under the age of 16 or under the age of 18 or really any woman is having abortion in our state. And then if a child is being sexually abused, of course parents need to know. Authorities need to know. Public policy experts need to know.”

Abortion in Indiana is banned after 22 weeks of pregnancy, with some exceptions for medical emergencies. There are strict reporting requirements in both Ohio and Indiana for abortions and rape allegations.

Aside from Rokita’s warning, it’s not yet clear whether Indiana will actually prosecute Bernard. But abortion rights activists and legal experts have been warning for weeks of the unprecedented legal risks doctors face in the wake of Roe’s fall.
[snip]

I got in multiple arguments with members of this forum that exactly what we are seeing here would not happen. That conservatives would not care if women went to other states to get abortions and that this was a state's rights issue. Even though abortion is legal until 22 weeks they are still trying to find ANYTHING they can to punish this doctor for performing an abortion ON A 10 YEAR OLD RAPE VICTIM. Keeping in mind that Ohio's abortion laws have no exception for rape, which is an affront to human decency in the first place.

I will keep saying this, because it is continued to prove true. Follow the reasoning to its logical conclusion. Why would people who think abortion is literally comparable to murder NOT go after people who commit "mUrdEr" in other states? Why wouldn't they start charging women with sentences comparable to murder charges? Why wouldn't they go after women who have miscarriages? Why wouldn't they try to ban "child murder" federally? I've heard conservatives say Roe was WORSE than the holocaust because more people were killed. These are all the logical conclusions a person who believes abortion is murder would support.

This is direct evidence for doctors being hesitant to intervene even in case of an emergency.

 

[Moon]

This is direct evidence for doctors being hesitant to intervene even in case of an emergency.

Be abuse of reporting requirements? That doesn’t make any sense.

 

[reflechissez]

I’m sure Indiana has different reporting requirements than Ohio, and it’s the Indiana AG doing the investigating. If the girl received medical care in Indiana related to an abortion, Indiana’s reporting requirements would also have to be followed.

And stop with the sea lion bullshit. You’re better than that.

Why are you so sure?

 

[Slartibartfast]

He reported it in Ohio, but the abortion took place in Indiana. Was the rape and child abuse reported in Indiana?

Yup. We have an AG grandstanding without first finding out if she failed to report. That level of draw, fire, aim from the AG's office will scare doctors and quite obviously an intimidation tactic.

 

[Moon]

Why are you so sure?

Because Ohio and Indiana are different states. Reporting the crime in one state likely doesn’t fulfill the requirement of the other.

 

[Moon]

Yup. We have an AG grandstanding without first finding out if she failed to report. That level of draw, fire, aim from the AG's office will scare doctors.

He’s a politician, so grandstanding is his nature. If Dr. Bernard met the reporting requirement, this will be a short investigation.

 

[CaughtInThe]

The Republican party has gone to war with women. And doctors.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

He reported it in Ohio, but the abortion took place in Indiana. Was the rape and child abuse reported in Indiana?

It is my understanding she was only obligated to report it to the authorities generally, which she did. If you have some legal knowledge you'd like to share that we aren't privy to I'm all ears. It is also my understanding that these accusation of "not reporting" were part of the broader disgusting Republican response which was that the entire story was fabricated (and that if it was not fabricated there would be a police report (which there was)) and that the girl was not raped at all. Obviously, after authorities apprehended the actual rapist...this facade fell to pieces.

 

[RAMOSS]

Yup. We have an AG grandstanding without first finding out if she failed to report. That level of draw, fire, aim from the AG's office will scare doctors and quite obviously an intimidation tactic.

It's meat to the base, and an investigation is not the findings of the investigation.

 

[Pound4abrown]

What you are looking at is almost straight out of "The Ministry of Truth" in Orwell's "1984".

What was the case in the past is never denied, it simply ceases to exist and what is the current truth is what the truth has always been.

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

 

[tres borrachos]

The Republican party has gone to war with women. And doctors.

And 10 year old girls. Her life was only precious to the GOP when she was in the womb.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

He’s a politician, so grandstanding is his nature. If Dr. Bernard met the reporting requirement, this will be a short investigation.

The point of the grandstanding is to terrorize doctors into not performing abortions.

Watters weighed in against Bernard too, saying that "from what we can find out so far, this Indiana abortion doctor has covered this up." He provided no evidence for that assertion.

Indiana AG says he's investigating doctor who gave abortion to 10-year-old rape victim from Ohio after Roe overturn

AG Todd Rokita said he was prepared to remove Dr Caitlin Bernard's license if she had failed to report the abortion of a 10-year-old to authorities.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[RAMOSS]

And 10 year old girls. Her life was only precious to the GOP when she was in the womb.

Heck, this is what the GOP thinks of women

Woman Who Was Allegedly Raped as Teen Loses Custody of Child to Accused Rapist, Has to Pay Child Support

At the time she became pregnant, Crysta Abelseth was 16 and John Barnes was 30

people.com