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Report: U.S. to pay family of Ashli Babbitt, killed by police Jan. 6 (3 Viewers)

Didn't say they were. I said that's what I'm interested in. I don't come here and interact with you to hear you regurgitate to say crap everyone else said.

Possibly

So you don't accept the reality that he died of a fentanyl overdose even though it was proven?

Isn't violent riot redundant
Practically everything you have posted here has been debunked, and yet you keep repeating the same old lies. You seem to have no grasp of the facts or even the desire to educate yourself as to what they are. Seeing how much you mangle the English language in here it's not hard to understand why.
 
Let me get this straight.

Someone entering your home without invitation - shoot them dead. You can be a folk hero. (castke doctrine etc)

Someone at the head of a mob trying to break into Congress when they are making the final acts that would solidify the vote is shot while breaking in - she is seen as a victim and her family gets millions of dollars.

Yeah. That tracks.

Well.....the hypocrisy tracks. :)

All because a butt hurt POTUS who clearly lost an election snookered a bunch of gullible folks into believing the election was stolen. People died over his Ego and infantilism.
 
You quoted where I was more specific about his past transgressions.
I didn’t.
To reiterate the point, I'll pull from the article I also linked in the post you quoted.
He reportedly told other officers that his rank as a lieutenant and his role as commander of the House chambers section would protect him and that he expected to “be treated differently.”
Reported by who? Can you provide any verifiable reference that quotes Byrd?

Third person accounts, especially as part of an opinion piece, are always suspect.

Even more so when the opiner is a very well known partisan Traitor Trump supporter/defender.
I also agreed with the conclusion of the article to an extent:

But Byrd was also in a precarious position being the first to reach the barricade where rioters had forced entry. There also is a good argument to be made that Babbitt's intrusion into the building warranted a threat with the mob likely to follow her through the breach, so while I understand the argument for more restraint, I also feel there was justification for the shooting. The video shared earlier in the thread also provided evidence that she had warning that he had a gun before she started to climb through the breach. Overall, I do not think Byrd's actions warranted disciplinary measures of a severe nature, but an internal discussion about the officer's overall conduct seems appropriate. And since we wouldn't be privy to that information, maybe one did occur.
Would you think the same if you found out that Byrd never asserted “his rank as a lieutenant and his role as commander of the House chambers section would protect him and that he expected to “be treated differently”?
 
I didn’t.


Reported by who? Can you provide any verifiable reference that quotes Byrd?

Third person accounts, especially as part of an opinion piece, are always suspect.

Even more so when the opiner is a very well known partisan Traitor Trump supporter/defender.

Would you think the same if you found out that Byrd never asserted “his rank as a lieutenant and his role as commander of the House chambers section would protect him and that he expected to “be treated differently”?
I agree with your point about hearsay, but what I've seen of his interview following the shooting also seems to support the reports of his attitude. And whether or not Turley supports Trump or not, I thought a lot of his points coincided with my own feelings regarding law enforcement officers and restraint. I do not believe my opinion would be swayed that much whether I knew Byrd's attitude or not, but if I'm being honest, I cannot say 100% since I learned about his character as part of trying to learn more on what happened.

I do think the other officers not using violent force supports my feelings that more restraint could have been shown, but I will continue to reiterate that I also think given the potential consequences, Byrd acted in a split second based on what he felt was a credible threat. I also agree there was a credible threat that he responded to, so again, I'm not advocating for disciplinary measures against him. If there were concerns internally, then those were hopefully addressed internally.

What happened to Babbitt was unfortunate, but she had plenty of warning, and she crossed a line she should not have crossed by entering the breach in the barricade with the intent to have a mob follow. I would still put most of the fault on her and her cohorts for what occurred.
 
Hey dude I'm kidding how it's based on what side of the political spectrum you're on

Few spelling errors.

The veins that pump blood in your head are on the front of your neck not on the back that's your spine back there. So he wasn't cutting off blood flow that was the fentanyl
Veins return blood from organs.
Arteries supply oxygenated blood to organs
Take an anatomy lesson
 
They were both unarmed in the commission of their alleged crimes. Close enough. Neither needed to be taken out by deadly force.
"close enough"? uh, no. totally different circumstances. a riot in the capitol endangering congress by police outnumbered by rioters versus....nothing like that. duh
 
They were both unarmed in the commission of their alleged crimes. Close enough. Neither needed to be taken out by deadly force.

Floyd was sitting peacefully with friends on a sidewalk when confronted by police...Babbit was unlawfully trespassing in a federal facility with an angry mob behind her, carrying a backpack of unknown contents. The federal facility held Congress, whom the armed angry mob was verbally threatening.

Care to try again? ;)
 
Floyd was sitting peacefully with friends on a sidewalk when confronted by police...Babbit was unlawfully trespassing in a federal facility with an angry mob behind her, carrying a backpack of unknown contents. The federal facility held Congress, whom the armed angry mob was verbally threatening.

Care to try again? ;)
clearly identical circumstances!
 
The rouge Fed Cop left the Government culpable.
Every investigation that I know of cleared him legally. This is a civil suit, and the Trump/Bondi DoJ is capitulating. They don't have to. They could fight it and win. This is just sending yet another message to would-be violent Trumpers that it's OK.

While it's nice to see any family compensated for their losses, it's not right when it's a result of a police officer doing his job and the victim was breaking the law. Trump is doing his very best right now to extend immunity for police officers to allow them to better control crime and at the same time punishing the Capitol Police for doing just that.

Do you not see the glaring irony?

It's another Donnie 2 Dolls throwing the middle finger at law enforcement and saying, ha, ha, nothing you can do about it.
 
Floyd was sitting peacefully with friends on a sidewalk when confronted by police...Babbit was unlawfully trespassing in a federal facility with an angry mob behind her, carrying a backpack of unknown contents. The federal facility held Congress, whom the armed angry mob was verbally threatening.

Care to try again? ;)
Stop it. She was unarmed. Or do you think the Capitol Police should have just opened up with an M-60 machine gun on all the protesters?
 
Stop it. She was unarmed. Or do you think the Capitol Police should have just opened up with an M-60 machine gun on all the protesters?

No...you stop it 🤣

How could the cop know that? (Ignoring the part where you try to move the conversation away from your failed comparison.)
 
So, it's okay to shoot unarmed rioters. Got it.
That's precisely what Trump suggested while he was hiding out in the WH bunker during the 2020 DC protest in front of the WH. He was talked out of it by his sec-def. As I've said many times, violence is OK with Trump as long as it's in his name.
 
So, it's okay to shoot unarmed rioters. Got it.
It was fine to shoot unarmed protesters for an upside down Bible photo op so meh. Personally I thought they got off easy. I really expected the government to respond with shooting everyone entering the capital building. I still maintain that would be the result if the aggressors weren’t predominantly white.
 
How could the cop know that?
Cops typically do notshoot anyone who does not brandish a firearm or other deadly weapon at them. Was it the widdle biddy pocket knife in her pocket?
(Ignoring the part where you try to move the conversation away from your failed comparison.)
You always seem to have an argument with yourself., just like on the Roevember issue.
 
No...you stop it 🤣

How could the cop know that? (Ignoring the part where you try to move the conversation away from your failed comparison.)
These guys all know better. To them, this is a MAGA win. They will never relent. If the cop was their cousin being threatened by a violent suspect, they'd be cheering the shooting and defending the cousin.
 
It was fine to shoot unarmed protesters for an upside down Bible photo op so meh. Personally I thought they got off easy. I really expected the government to respond with shooting everyone entering the capital building. I still maintain that would be the result if the aggressors weren’t predominantly white.
That sounds kind of fascist.
 
Cops typically do notshoot anyone who does not brandish a firearm or other deadly weapon at them. Was it the widdle biddy pocket knife in her pocket?

You always seem to have an argument with yourself., just like on the Roevember issue.
Generally, the Congress of the US is not threatened by a violent mob 2000 strong who is totally unpredictable screaming "Where's Nancy, and "Hang Mike Pence". This cop was in charge of protecting the Congress. If a SS agent did the same thing while protecting Trump and the suspect was unarmed, how would you feel?
 
That sounds kind of fascist.
Not really no but I understand republicans confusion as to what that word means. Taking over the capital building justifies the use of deadly force. Same with the White House. Do you honestly disagree with that?
 
Not really no but I understand republicans confusion as to what that word means. Taking over the capital building justifies the use of deadly force. Same with the White House. Do you honestly disagree with that?
All that sounds very extremist on your part. One, I am not a republican, and two, nobody took over the capitol building. And If Babbit had brandished a firearm and pointed it at police, then shooting and killing her would have been justified. You seem quite okay with the concept of just shooting anyone who walked into the Capitol building, armed or not. The Nazis would love that.
 

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