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Report shows violence against rangers rising, sequestration likely to worsen

Here's the link from the OP.

Militia Link Suspected In Acts Against Federal Land Workers The Fbi Is Examining March Bombings Of Forest Service In Nevada. - Philly.com

Like I stated previously, militia groups and terrorist groups don't die off or fade away into obscurity, they lay low, and come back to make trouble in years following initial attacks.

In this link, the story outlines violence and threats against forest service workers and BLM employees.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ween-cliven-bundy-and-the-federal-government/

Here is a link to PEER research findings.

http://www.fiercegovernment.com/sto...al-park-employees-rising-peer-says/2013-06-18
 
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TheNextEra said:
So you are comparing the KGB to our government workers in the field now?
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I expanded on that in a later post, and in brief, the answer is "No, not in a general sense." I explained the point I was making.
 
AJiveMan said:
More so in this day and age, as there is an upward spike in violence against park service, forest workers, and blm workers on the job, according to the PEER research group, which stopped reporting of such incidents about two years ago.
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It is truely shocking that anti-gov't violence is most often directed at gov't buildings/workers. Naturally when you diiscount all other crime/violence it seems that public employes are being picked on more on the job. I can assure you that retail clerks suffer as crime victims at a far higher rate than gov't workers, even the PEER folks are forced to admit that.

http://www.policy-perspectives.org/article/download/4210/2960

Statistcs, carefully manipulated, can be shown to "prove" anything. From ZERO (two years ago) to more than zero (recently) is indeed a "huge spike" just as an increase from 1 to 3 is a 300% increase. Did it make the papers two years ago that there was a huge decrease in such violence? Did we celebrate a year after the OKC bombing that such violence has dramitcally decreased?

It seems that the freak out factor is extremely high when a "new threat" can be attributed to those linked (however loosely) with the politcial opposition.
 
Deuce said:
That's what they told me about the Iraq invasion...
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Who, exactly, is "they"? Are you suggesting that spewing pure BS is OK because "they" do it too?
 
If your job puts you at odds with people. Well, it seems natural that those people are going to push back. Seems the BLM is taking some advantages of people they shouldn't.
 

If the far left had their way the fed government would own all the land and we the people would be in a drawing for the privilege to put a small hovel of a hut on a tiny plot of land.
 

Already read it. I found this part of particular interest...

Baca said there was no proof of a link between militia groups, the wise-use movement and anti-government violence, "other than that there's an atmosphere of militancy and a lot of common threads in their beliefs."
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AJiveMan said:
In this link, the story outlines violence and threats against forest service workers and BLM employees.

Everything you need to know about the long fight between Cliven Bundy and the federal government
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Other than some militia folks standing up to federal officials on the Clive Bundy situation no where in that does it link militias to any of the other violent happenings.

AJiveMan said:
Here is a link to PEER research findings.

Violence against federal park employees rising, PEER says - FierceGovernment
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And in this link it specifically states...


Not to mention it doesn't once make mention of militias anywhere in it.

Your attempt to blame militias for the rise of violence against park rangers is failing miserably. Do you even read your own sources?
 
Occasionally I do.
But I love how you cherry picked the articles, I wouldn't have expected anything less.
 

actually if your vision of government agents doing their job is like the KGB then yes your hate for our country is gone too far.
 
This looks more like the work of PETA. Possibly in conjunction with Greenpeace.
 

To believe that pipe bombs that have been found in national forests were left by someone just tinkering around is really naive. And to think that somehow, some way that a militia isn't involved in the planting of pipe bombs in BLM and Forest Services offices and on a forest service worker's vehicle is extremely naive. I think I know that line of thinking, it was just some disgruntled camper who didn't like paying camping fees.
 
azgreg said:
If the far left had their way the fed government would own all the land and we the people would be in a drawing for the privilege to put a small hovel of a hut on a tiny plot of land.
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If the far right had their way, there wouldn't be any public lands, they'd be sold, right down to Yellowstone National Park.
 
AJiveMan said:
Occasionally I do.
But I love how you cherry picked the articles, I wouldn't have expected anything less.
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Can't help if your own articles do not support your arguement. :shrug:

Btw, cherry picking entails that there were other parts of the articles that actually support your arguement that I intententionally left out. Mind showing those parts? Can you? Beware: It might entail actually reading your own sources.
 

About a month or so ago a pipe bomb was left on somebodies front porch in my area. Do you think the militia was involved in that?
 

It's a little naive to think you will not be held accountable for your actions isn't it?

No one is fooled by the braying, self-righteousness and superior Liberal elitism in your posts.
 
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AJiveMan said:
If the far right had their way, there wouldn't be any public lands, they'd be sold, right down to Yellowstone National Park.
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Close. The states would control the land, not the fed.
 
Kal'Stang said:
About a month or so ago a pipe bomb was left on somebodies front porch in my area. Do you think the militia was involved in that?
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Are you sure it wasn't...?
 
AJiveMan said:
If the far right had their way, there wouldn't be any public lands, they'd be sold, right down to Yellowstone National Park.
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Interesting. That never happened did it?

Yet when it comes to the Federal Government:

 
Ray410 said:
It's a little naive to think you will not be held accountable for your actions isn't it? No one is fooled by the braying, self-righteousness and superior Liberal elitism in your posts.
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Oh well, what can you add to the topic? Other than bantering and bullying your con position?
 
azgreg said:
Close. The states would control the land, not the fed.
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I have experience with states owning a majority of American land. Most of it is not free of charge either, at least not in the way Forests and BLM land is.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Come now, I asked you a yes or no question. Surely you can give a straight "yes" or "no" answer?
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Not, unless your neighbor is involved with some sort of militia group.
 
AJiveMan said:
Oh well, what can you add to the topic? Other than bantering and bullying your con position?
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Nonsense. How could anyone bully your federal government?
 
Kal'Stang said:
Come now, I asked you a yes or no question. Surely you can give a straight "yes" or "no" answer?
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Couldn't have been a militia. According to the anti 2A folks here a militia doesn't exist in America.
 
Ray410 said:
Nonsense. How could anyone bully your federal government?
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No one is fooled by the braying, self-righteousness and superior Con elitism in your posts.
 
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