Report on how children are doing in the US from Human Rights Watch

[Fletch]

You obviously didn’t even look at the report.

None of them did lol.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

So why is California one of the worst states in the nation?

It isn't.

How Do US States Measure Up on Child Rights?

www.hrw.org

STATE RANKINGS​

The numbers to the right of the bars reflect the “raw state score” which loosely communicates a “percentage of compliance with the CRC” on the issues of child marriage, corporal punishment, child labor, and juvenile justice. For instance, a state that complied with child rights standards on all four issues would have been awarded a raw score of 100 percent.

New Jersey	C 73.75%
Minnesota	C 72.50%
Ohio	C 68.75%
Iowa	C 67.50%
Connecticut	C 65.00%
Alaska	C 63.13%
New York	C 63.13%
Vermont	D 61.88%
Massachusetts	D 60.00%
Colorado	D 60.00%
Utah	D 60.00%
Virginia	D 59.38%
Florida	D 58.75%
Maryland	D 57.50%
Nevada	D 57.50%
Oregon	D 56.88%
Pennsylvania	D 56.88%
Delaware	D 55.63%
Kentucky	D 55.63%
Nebraska	D 55.63%
Arkansas	D 55.63%
Montana	D 53.75%
New Hampshire	D 53.75%
Illinois	D 53.13%
Kansas	D 53.13%
West Virginia	D 53.13%
North Dakota	D 52.50%
Alabama	D 51.88%
South Dakota	D 51.88%
Rhode Island	D 51.25%
Hawaii	D 50.63%
Arizona	D 50.00%
California	D 50.00%
New Mexico	D 50.00%
Texas	F 49.38%
Missouri	F 48.75%
Wisconsin	F 48.13%
Louisiana	F 46.25%
North Carolina	F 45.63%
South Carolina	F 44.38%
Idaho	F 43.75%
Maine	F 43.75%
Oklahoma	F 43.75%
Michigan	F 40.00%
Indiana	F 39.38%
Tennessee	F 36.88%
Washington	F 34.38%
Georgia	F 33.75%
Wyoming	F 26.25%
Mississippi	F 19.38%

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

You obviously didn’t even look at the report.

Want to try that again?

How Do US States Measure Up on Child Rights?

www.hrw.org

STATE RANKINGS​

The numbers to the right of the bars reflect the “raw state score” which loosely communicates a “percentage of compliance with the CRC” on the issues of child marriage, corporal punishment, child labor, and juvenile justice. For instance, a state that complied with child rights standards on all four issues would have been awarded a raw score of 100 percent.

New Jersey	C 73.75%
Minnesota	C 72.50%
Ohio	C 68.75%
Iowa	C 67.50%
Connecticut	C 65.00%
Alaska	C 63.13%
New York	C 63.13%
Vermont	D 61.88%
Massachusetts	D 60.00%
Colorado	D 60.00%
Utah	D 60.00%
Virginia	D 59.38%
Florida	D 58.75%
Maryland	D 57.50%
Nevada	D 57.50%
Oregon	D 56.88%
Pennsylvania	D 56.88%
Delaware	D 55.63%
Kentucky	D 55.63%
Nebraska	D 55.63%
Arkansas	D 55.63%
Montana	D 53.75%
New Hampshire	D 53.75%
Illinois	D 53.13%
Kansas	D 53.13%
West Virginia	D 53.13%
North Dakota	D 52.50%
Alabama	D 51.88%
South Dakota	D 51.88%
Rhode Island	D 51.25%
Hawaii	D 50.63%
Arizona	D 50.00%
California	D 50.00%
New Mexico	D 50.00%
Texas	F 49.38%
Missouri	F 48.75%
Wisconsin	F 48.13%
Louisiana	F 46.25%
North Carolina	F 45.63%
South Carolina	F 44.38%
Idaho	F 43.75%
Maine	F 43.75%
Oklahoma	F 43.75%
Michigan	F 40.00%
Indiana	F 39.38%
Tennessee	F 36.88%
Washington	F 34.38%
Georgia	F 33.75%
Wyoming	F 26.25%
Mississippi	F 19.38%

 

[Napoleon]

It isn't.

STATE RANKINGS​

The numbers to the right of the bars reflect the “raw state score” which loosely communicates a “percentage of compliance with the CRC” on the issues of child marriage, corporal punishment, child labor, and juvenile justice. For instance, a state that complied with child rights standards on all four issues would have been awarded a raw score of 100 percent.

New Jersey	C 73.75%
Minnesota	C 72.50%
Ohio	C 68.75%
Iowa	C 67.50%
Connecticut	C 65.00%
Alaska	C 63.13%
New York	C 63.13%
Vermont	D 61.88%
Massachusetts	D 60.00%
Colorado	D 60.00%
Utah	D 60.00%
Virginia	D 59.38%
Florida	D 58.75%
Maryland	D 57.50%
Nevada	D 57.50%
Oregon	D 56.88%
Pennsylvania	D 56.88%
Delaware	D 55.63%
Kentucky	D 55.63%
Nebraska	D 55.63%
Arkansas	D 55.63%
Montana	D 53.75%
New Hampshire	D 53.75%
Illinois	D 53.13%
Kansas	D 53.13%
West Virginia	D 53.13%
North Dakota	D 52.50%
Alabama	D 51.88%
South Dakota	D 51.88%
Rhode Island	D 51.25%
Hawaii	D 50.63%
Arizona	D 50.00%
California	D 50.00%
New Mexico	D 50.00%
Texas	F 49.38%
Missouri	F 48.75%
Wisconsin	F 48.13%
Louisiana	F 46.25%
North Carolina	F 45.63%
South Carolina	F 44.38%
Idaho	F 43.75%
Maine	F 43.75%
Oklahoma	F 43.75%
Michigan	F 40.00%
Indiana	F 39.38%
Tennessee	F 36.88%
Washington	F 34.38%
Georgia	F 33.75%
Wyoming	F 26.25%
Mississippi	F 19.38%

Not only are you dead wrong but you’ve completely failed to explain the bias in the scoring.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Not only are you dead wrong but you’ve completely failed to explain the bias in the scoring.

There you go, there is THE answer, the scoring is biased. Sure sure, that MUST BE the answer.

 

[weaver2]

None of that was evaluated in this HRW rag.

The point of posting the UNICEF goals for child health is to show how closely children right to good health, both physical and psychological is tied to maternal health. You cannot talk about improving children right to good health unless you also discuss improving health.

Before there are healthy, well educated, emotionally stable children you have to have healthy, well educated and emotionally stable mothers.

 

[Napoleon]

The point of posting the UNICEF goals for child health is to show how closely children right to good health, both physical and psychological is tied to maternal health. You cannot talk about improving children right to good health unless you also discuss improving health.

Before there are healthy, well educated, emotionally stable children you have to have healthy, well educated and emotionally stable mothers.

This thread is about a specific report by HRW which has nothing to do with anything you posted.

 

[Napoleon]

There you go, there is THE answer, the scoring is biased. Sure sure, that MUST BE the answer.

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I’ve already given you an example of bias in the juvenile justice grading. Which you’re avoiding. You want more?

 

[Fletch]

It isn't.

How Do US States Measure Up on Child Rights?

www.hrw.org

STATE RANKINGS​

The numbers to the right of the bars reflect the “raw state score” which loosely communicates a “percentage of compliance with the CRC” on the issues of child marriage, corporal punishment, child labor, and juvenile justice. For instance, a state that complied with child rights standards on all four issues would have been awarded a raw score of 100 percent.

New Jersey	C 73.75%
Minnesota	C 72.50%
Ohio	C 68.75%
Iowa	C 67.50%
Connecticut	C 65.00%
Alaska	C 63.13%
New York	C 63.13%
Vermont	D 61.88%
Massachusetts	D 60.00%
Colorado	D 60.00%
Utah	D 60.00%
Virginia	D 59.38%
Florida	D 58.75%
Maryland	D 57.50%
Nevada	D 57.50%
Oregon	D 56.88%
Pennsylvania	D 56.88%
Delaware	D 55.63%
Kentucky	D 55.63%
Nebraska	D 55.63%
Arkansas	D 55.63%
Montana	D 53.75%
New Hampshire	D 53.75%
Illinois	D 53.13%
Kansas	D 53.13%
West Virginia	D 53.13%
North Dakota	D 52.50%
Alabama	D 51.88%
South Dakota	D 51.88%
Rhode Island	D 51.25%
Hawaii	D 50.63%
Arizona	D 50.00%
California	D 50.00%
New Mexico	D 50.00%
Texas	F 49.38%
Missouri	F 48.75%
Wisconsin	F 48.13%
Louisiana	F 46.25%
North Carolina	F 45.63%
South Carolina	F 44.38%
Idaho	F 43.75%
Maine	F 43.75%
Oklahoma	F 43.75%
Michigan	F 40.00%
Indiana	F 39.38%
Tennessee	F 36.88%
Washington	F 34.38%
Georgia	F 33.75%
Wyoming	F 26.25%
Mississippi	F 19.38%

California comes in a 50.0%. 49.9% is an F rating, It comes in at 33 out of 50. That makes them one of the worst. Washington state is 47th out of 50. Thats horrible and you cant get bluer than Washington. The idea that this report can be broken down between red and blue is false. You know that. But you push the lie anyway.

 

[Fletch]

The point of posting the UNICEF goals for child health is to show how closely children right to good health, both physical and psychological is tied to maternal health. You cannot talk about improving children right to good health unless you also discuss improving health.

Before there are healthy, well educated, emotionally stable children you have to have healthy, well educated and emotionally stable mothers.

But the study doesnt address the bolded. Its criteria are "child marriage, corporal punishment, child labor, and juvenile justice."

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

California comes in a 50.0%. 49.9% is an F rating, It comes in at 33 out of 50. That makes them one of the worst. Washington state is 47th out of 50. Thats horrible and you cant get bluer than Washington. The idea that this report can be broken down between red and blue is false. You know that. But you push the lie anyway.

The chart speaks for itself. Bleating doesn't change the numbers. If you want to keep whining and moaning then you go ahead and do so. I hope it makes you feel better. Cheers.

 

[Napoleon]

California comes in a 50.0%. 49.9% is an F rating, It comes in at 33 out of 50. That makes them one of the worst. Washington state is 47th out of 50. Thats horrible and you cant get bluer than Washington. The idea that this report can be broken down between red and blue is false. You know that. But you push the lie anyway.

And the only reason California avoided an F is because HRW gave it higher grades than other States for the same results.

 

[weaver2]

So why is California one of the worst states in the nation?

They have a huge population of low wage, migrant farm workers for whom they provide almost no services. Women have no health insurance. Pre and post natal care is rare. Nutrition quality is low. Exposure to toxics is high. Unwanted pregnancies are high. All of these effect children right to good health, a stable home, safety and eduction.

 

[Fletch]

The chart speaks for itself. Bleating doesn't change the numbers. If you want to keep whining and moaning then you go ahead and do so. I hope it makes you feel better. Cheers.

It does speak for itself. 43 states get a D or an F. You are running around celebrating because your lib states got D's and F's on the exam. Its just too stupid.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

It does speak for itself. 43 states get a D or an F. You are running around celebrating because your lib states got D's and F's on the exam. Its just too stupid.

STOP WHINING!! The chart shows the numbers. Deal with it. GAWD!!

 

[Fletch]

They have a huge population of low wage, migrant farm workers for whom they provide almost no services. Women have no health insurance. Pre and post natal care is rare. Nutrition quality is low. Exposure to toxics is high. Unwanted pregnancies are high. All of these effect children right to good health, a stable home, safety and eduction.

Hmmm. Sounds like liberal California is a horrible place.

 

[Fletch]

STOP WHINING!! The chart shows the numbers. Deal with it. GAWD!!

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And you are lying about the numbers.

 

[roberthughey]

"Over and over again, the worst states for children are clustered around the “pro-life” Bible Belt, and the map of the states that are the worst for children looks a lot like a map of red-state America."

A Big New Report on American Children Is Out. It’s Horrific.

“Protect the children” is a popular modern rallying cry. If only.

slate.com

Don't trust a damn thing this Soros funded extreme leftist phony organization tells you.

 

[weaver2]

But the study doesnt address the bolded. Its criteria are "child marriage, corporal punishment, child labor, and juvenile justice."

You're right the study addresses legal rights of children: child marriage, corporal punishment, child labor, juvenile justice, etc. These are areas of legal rights that concern mostly the poor. Middle class and wealthy children are respected don't have problems with child marriage, labor laws corporal punishment and juvenile justice. Poor children are the one's that have issues with those topics. And poor children will not be respected until their mothers gain the kind of respect that leads them to having the same health insurance, paid maternity leave, access to highly effective contraceptives. privacy between doctor and patient, pre and post natal care and a decent living wage as middle and wealthy women have.

 

[Argent]

It’s also up to its eyeballs in corruption by taking money from the Saudis on the condition that it isn’t used for any gay rights causes.

They gave it back when they were exposed. It doesn't sound like it has been common practice.

Human Rights Watch recently returned the gift from Saudi real estate magnate Mohamed Bin Issa Al Jaber, which came with the caveat that it could not be used to support the group’s LGBT advocacy in the Middle East and North Africa. The controversial donation is at the center of a contentious internal debate about the judgment and leadership of Human Rights Watch Executive Director Kenneth Roth.

After The Intercept began investigating the donation, the rights group published a statement on its website saying that accepting the funding was a “deeply regrettable decision” that “stood in stark contrast to our core values and our longstanding commitment to LGBT rights as an integral part of human rights.”

Human Rights Watch Took Money From Saudi Businessman After Documenting His Coercive Labor Practices

The controversial gift came with a caveat that it could not be used to support LGBT advocacy in the Middle East and North Africa.

theintercept.com

 

[Napoleon]

They gave it back when they were exposed. It doesn't sound like it has been common practice.

Human Rights Watch recently returned the gift from Saudi real estate magnate Mohamed Bin Issa Al Jaber, which came with the caveat that it could not be used to support the group’s LGBT advocacy in the Middle East and North Africa. The controversial donation is at the center of a contentious internal debate about the judgment and leadership of Human Rights Watch Executive Director Kenneth Roth.

After The Intercept began investigating the donation, the rights group published a statement on its website saying that accepting the funding was a “deeply regrettable decision” that “stood in stark contrast to our core values and our longstanding commitment to LGBT rights as an integral part of human rights.”

Human Rights Watch Took Money From Saudi Businessman After Documenting His Coercive Labor Practices

The controversial gift came with a caveat that it could not be used to support LGBT advocacy in the Middle East and North Africa.

theintercept.com

HRW has no values. They still take money from the Saudis.

 

[Argent]

Banning abortions is about denying equality and restricting women.

From the data in @SNOWFLAKE's link, it's also about ensuring that agricultural enterprises have a perpetual source of cheap labor and that old men can indulge in their pedo fantasies by marrying young girls.

 

[Fletch]

You're right the study addresses legal rights of children: child marriage, corporal punishment, child labor, juvenile justice, etc. These are areas of legal rights that concern mostly the poor. Middle class and wealthy children are respected don't have problems with child marriage, labor laws corporal punishment and juvenile justice. Poor children are the one's that have issues with those topics. And poor children will not be respected until their mothers gain the kind of respect that leads them to having the same health insurance, paid maternity leave, access to highly effective contraceptives. privacy between doctor and patient, pre and post natal care and a decent living wage as middle and wealthy women have.

Great. Maybe that is the type of discussion we should have. But that discussion is impossible when the OP and others use this issue to make political points rather than seek solutions. Which is what is happening in this thread.

 

[Fletch]

From the data in @SNOWFLAKE's link, it's also about ensuring that agricultural enterprises have a perpetual source of cheap labor and that old men can indulge in their pedo fantasies by marrying young girls.

Can you quote where in that link that argument is made? Thanks.

 

[Napoleon]

From the data in @SNOWFLAKE's link, it's also about ensuring that agricultural enterprises have a perpetual source of cheap labor and that old men can indulge in their pedo fantasies by marrying young girls.

Because California has no age limits on marriage. Maybe Ohio should teach the progressive wonderstadt how do to agriculture without raping babies.