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Before someone, somehow blames Fox for this, Ellison actually made those comments on the February 9 airing of This Week With George Stephanopoulos.
The words did come out of his mouth. It's hard to blame that on anyone else.
It's a common deflection to blame the messenger when one doesn't like the content of the message.
Indeed it is. And as much as I don't like Fox a lot of times, I'm even more ashamed that this idiot is my Congressman.
Sure...I'll bite. Can you cite that CBO report that states that those jobs that will be lost are a good thing?Except the CBO didn't say that there would be the jobs lost as referenced but that people would be free to leave jobs that they are hanging on to because of insurance needs. It is about fewer people working, the jobs would still be there and the Representative makes the point that it means that people who are working just to have insurance can now be a stay at home parent. I thought the right wing wanted that?
Except the CBO didn't say that there would be the jobs lost as referenced but that people would be free to leave jobs that they are hanging on to because of insurance needs. It is about fewer people working, the jobs would still be there and the Representative makes the point that it means that people who are working just to have insurance can now be a stay at home parent. I thought the right wing wanted that?
I am increasingly stunned by this type of loony response to what the CBO said...Do libs really think that everyone is so independently wealthy that they can just say 'oh, I am going to stop working now because I can buy health insurance'? What about the other bills of life that make up much more of a household budget....Mortgage/Rent, Electric, Gas, FOOD!!!!?????
You libs really think that most people are only working to get Health Insurance? I don't.
You seem to have more knowledge of this CBO report...can YOU cite the report and the provisions of the report that show that the loss of 2 million jobs is a 'good thing'?No one said that "most" people are working just for health insurance. You just made that up. And the number given by the CBO is over the next ten years, so it's not some drastically huge number to begin with.
No one said that "most" people are working just for health insurance. You just made that up. And the number given by the CBO is over the next ten years, so it's not some drastically huge number to begin with.
Minnesota - the state that brought you Michele Bachmann, Keith Ellison and Al Franken. Then we wonder why people think we're a joke....
Don't forget Jessie Ventura.....:lol:
I didn't think Jesse was from Minnesota anymore, he moved to the famous 'parts unknown'.
Still was the Gov....No?
I didn't think Jesse was from Minnesota anymore, he moved to the famous 'parts unknown'.
Its part of that new way to fire people. Hey...Tom...can you come on in here? Remember how you always wanted to spend more time sitting on your couch watching Jerry Springer? Well...congrats Big Guy! Starting next week you get to sleep in, watch Springer, take long walks, and not have to put up with that asshole Tony any more!I'm talking about the stupid meme that people will now have time to cook dinner, or paint paintings, or play golf, or what ever....It's dumb, and highly insulting to those in the country today that are working as hard as they can to put food on the table, and keep the roof over their heads....We can play semantics with the demo talking point all we want, but it's not a good idea in my opinion to express an opinion that it really is 'no big deal' that people are struggling....Or ignoring that altogether.
Sure...I'll bite. Can you cite that CBO report that states that those jobs that will be lost are a good thing?
The Facts
In its report, the CBO said the Affordable Care Act, a.k.a. Obamacare, would reduce the number of hours worked by the equivalent of 2.5 million full-time workers by 2025. That means that workers will decide to reduce their hours, not that employers are reducing the number of jobs.
Before someone, somehow blames Fox for this, Ellison actually made those comments on the February 9 airing of This Week With George Stephanopoulos.
Ultimately, we project that the number of jobs in the economy will be smaller than it would be in the absence of the ACA because some people will choose not to work at all, but CBO did not estimate the size of that change separately from the effect of people choosing to work fewer hours. We wrote in the report: “The reduction in CBO’s projections of hours worked represents a decline in the number of full-time-equivalent workers of about 2.0 million in 2017, rising to about 2.5 million in 2024 … The decline in full-time-equivalent employment stemming from the ACA will consist of some people not being employed at all and other people working fewer hoursYour question is invalid based on the CBO report. The CBO is not saying 2mil people will be losing their jobs. In fact the report says Obamacare will increase economic activity.
I'm talking about the stupid meme that people will now have time to cook dinner, or paint paintings, or play golf, or what ever....It's dumb, and highly insulting to those in the country today that are working as hard as they can to put food on the table, and keep the roof over their heads....We can play semantics with the demo talking point all we want, but it's not a good idea in my opinion to express an opinion that it really is 'no big deal' that people are struggling....Or ignoring that altogether.
You seem to have more knowledge of this CBO report...can YOU cite the report and the provisions of the report that show that the loss of 2 million jobs is a 'good thing'?
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