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Here's some of that "so on":

Stone anyone's rebellious son to death recently? Deuteronomy 21:18-21

Obama came up with the same lame question. What did Jesus say? "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." So much, then, for stoning anyone from Jesus' day forward. In addition, if you'll take notice, only God (Acts chapter 5) and the government (Romans 13) are seen in the NT to authorize capital punishment.

Buy any slaves lately? Leviticus 25:44-46

What part of "Love your neighbor as you love yourself" do you think remotely approves one to have slaves?

How do you feel about clergy with physical disabilities? Leviticus 21:17-23

By the way, what convoluted logic do you employ in yer claim that the Bible forbids reproductive freedom for rape victims or Social Security?

What about your rapes?

That's nonsense.

You should spend some serious time reading the New Testament.

This claim that Obama is the Antichrist is completely unfounded. He's an Arab, Muslim, commie, terrorist-sympathizing, dictator faggot. And his pushy wife's got a fat ass.

A majority of Republican voters, 54 percent, think that President Obama is a Muslim, according to a new survey. Asked whether they thought Obama is a Christian or Muslim or if they were unsure, 32 percent said they were unsure. Fourteen percent said he was a Christian. — "Poll: Majority of Republicans think Obama is a Muslim," The Hill, Sept 1, 2015​

I was using hyperbole. But then I doubt the antichrist would reverse Obama's love of lying and iniquity.
 
And you have exactly ZERO evidence that Clinton raped or assaulted ANYONE. If you want to talk about accusations, that's one thing. Referring to "Bill Clinton's rapes" is slimy and detestable.

Never mind that silly personal-life stuff.

Google on "Clinton bush cia mena Arkansas".
 
Totally, women always making up rape stories, amiright?

No. Did the Clinton's murder Vince Foster and several other people? Did they traffic in cocaine?

So much, then, for stoning anyone from Jesus' day forward. In addition, if you'll take notice, only God (Acts chapter 5) and the government (Romans 13) are seen in the NT to authorize capital punishment.

But the Bible is the word of God, right? Was God confused before Jesus' time?

>>What part of "Love your neighbor as you love yourself" do you think remotely approves one to have slaves?

I have the same question. Was Jesus saying that the God of the Old Testament was unjust?

>>That's nonsense.

In what way?

>>You should spend some serious time reading the New Testament.

I'd say I have a pretty good understanding of it. Do you reject the Old Testament?

>>I doubt the antichrist would reverse Obama's love of lying and iniquity.

When has Obama lied? How has he been iniquitous?

Google on "Clinton bush cia mena Arkansas".

Why?
 
No. Did the Clinton's murder Vince Foster and several other people? Did they traffic in cocaine?

So women don't make up rape stories, but all of Clinton's many accusers are lying? Well, ain't that a special kind of bias on your part! :roll:
 
No. Did the Clinton's murder Vince Foster and several other people? Did they traffic in cocaine?

But the Bible is the word of God, right? Was God confused before Jesus' time?

>>What part of "Love your neighbor as you love yourself" do you think remotely approves one to have slaves?

I have the same question. Was Jesus saying that the God of the Old Testament was unjust?

LOL. It's in the Old Testament also (Leviticus 19:18)

Have you ever read the Bible?

When has Obama lied? How has he been iniquitous?

You can't be serious.

1,063 Documented Examples of Barack Obama’s Lying, Lawbreaking, Corruption, Cronyism, Hypocrisy, Waste, Etc. - Freedom Outpost
 
So women don't make up rape stories, but all of Clinton's many accusers are lying?

Yer question was:

Totally, women always making up rape stories, amiright?

In my view, a woman "making up" rape accusations is likely a rare event. So, as I answered, I'd say yer not right, women are not "always making up rape stories."

By the same token, I'm not entirely certain that Clinton was never involved in a sexual assault. So it may indeed be true that not "all of Clinton's many accusers are lying."

But where does that leave us? With a long list of people, many of them with highly questionable motivations, accusing both Clintons of one serious crime after another. Like I said here before, and I'm certainly not the first to say it, this is an industry in this country — Git the Clintons!

So if you'd be willing, please answer my question: did they murder Vince Foster and traffic in cocaine? What do you think of this page?

Hillary is a parallel case. They say she's responsible for Ambassador Stevens' death, she's been a serious threat to national security with the way she handled emails, the Foundation is corrupt, Whitewater, FBI files inappropriately in the WH, travel office firings, cattle futures, and on and on.

The line is that they're serial criminals and they're so clever they keep getting away with it, or else they threaten/murder their accusers and/or any witnesses. Could it be that this is all a load of partisan/ideological rat-effing? Birth certificate, secret Muslim, communist, homosexual, …

Their prize is Lewinsky. And what came of that? An impeachment. How many millions of taxpayer dollars were wasted by Starr and all that nonsense? How much did it distract the government and the country from the business it should have been focused on? All for stuff that even many on the Right dismiss with JFK.

To be clear, the partisan in me welcomes this. It exposes the Right for what much of it is — destructive hacks and nuts. Moderates and Independents decide many elections, and they're largely turned off by this kind of maniacal, witch-hunt hysteria.

>>Well, ain't that a special kind of bias on your part!

I'd say it's no bias at all, just common sense.

LOL. It's in the Old Testament also (Leviticus 19:18)

But much more famously in Mark 12:31.

>>Have you ever read the Bible?

Yes, although not as much as you have I'm sure.

My point would be this: If the Bible is the inerrant, literal word of God, something we must adhere to, how can it be filled with clear contradictions? My answer is that the Bible was written by men, men who wrote down their perception of God's truth, His will. I view its teaching in that context, and I then rely on my personal experience to decide what God wants me to do.

I grew up in a homophobic society. I'm sometimes uncomfortable around openly gay men. I figure that's a learned response, something learned from people whose judgement I've found I have no confidence in. My instinct tells me that God wants me to understand that His creation is imperfect, and that things like homosexuality, which can be confusing, are just a part of life I need to accept.

What part of "Love your neighbor as you love yourself" do you think remotely approves one to have slaves?

Why does the Bible say it's OK to buy and own slaves? Could it be that someone interpreted God's will in a way that you and I disagree with, and yet that belief is included in the Bible?

You seem to have a good of hostility toward "that corrupt gas-bag Hillary" and other characterless "Democrat candidates." ("Democrat" is not an adjective.) Is that a properly Christian attitude? I allow myself to feel that way about my political opponents, but I figure it must be sinful. Do you agree?

>>You can't be serious.

Oh, I am. And I'm not going to read through a list on some right-wing nut page. Give me an example of an Obama lie/iniquity.
 
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In my view, a woman "making up" rape accusations is likely a rare event. So, as I answered, I'd say yer not right, women are not "always making up rape stories."

By the same token, I'm not entirely certain that Clinton was never involved in a sexual assault. So it may indeed be true that not "all of Clinton's many accusers are lying."

But where does that leave us? With a long list of people, many of them with highly questionable motivations, accusing both Clintons of one serious crime after another. Like I said here before, and I'm certainly not the first to say it, this is an industry in this country — Git the Clintons!

So if you'd be willing, please answer my question: did they murder Vince Foster and traffic in cocaine? What do you think of this page?

Hillary is a parallel case. They say she's responsible for Ambassador Stevens' death, she's been a serious threat to national security with the way she handled emails, the Foundation is corrupt, Whitewater, FBI files inappropriately in the WH, travel office firings, cattle futures, and on and on.

The line is that they're serial criminals and they're so clever they keep getting away with it, or else they threaten/murder their accusers and/or any witnesses. Could it be that this is all a load of partisan/ideological rat-effing? Birth certificate, secret Muslim, communist, homosexual, …

Their prize is Lewinsky. And what came of that? An impeachment. How many millions of taxpayer dollars were wasted by Starr and all that nonsense? How much did it distract the government and the country from the business it should have been focused on? All for stuff that even many on the Right dismiss with JFK.

To be clear, the partisan in me welcomes this. It exposes the Right for what much of it is — destructive hacks and nuts. Moderates and Independents decide many elections, and they're largely turned off by this kind of maniacal, witch-hunt hysteria.

So.. just all the women who accuse your favorite politicians of rape are lying? Gotcha. :roll:

>>Well, ain't that a special kind of bias on your part!

I'd say it's no bias at all, just common sense.

No, it's hypocrisy.
 
You are spot on, mmi.

I doubt Motivator will be able to see it...but I was that way with George Dubya...so I understand what he is going through.

Anyway...with the Republicans and the Clintons...

...the Republicans have made the mistake of crying "WOLF" much too often.

Anyone with a reasonably open mind laugh at the nonsense these days. Their rantings are mostly meant for each other.
 
My point would be this: If the Bible is the inerrant, literal word of God, something we must adhere to, how can it be filled with clear contradictions?

Do you have an example of one from the Gospels? Just one example would be good. My studies have found the contradictions claims are way, way overblown.

Why does the Bible say it's OK to buy and own slaves? Could it be that someone interpreted God's will in a way that you and I disagree with, and yet that belief is included in the Bible?

Most of slavery in that day was the result of two things: Judgment by God on wicked nations, and voluntary servitude. So God laid out rules for that. But God's primary goal was for man to love their neighbors as they love themselves.

You seem to have a good of hostility toward "that corrupt gas-bag Hillary" and other characterless "Democrat candidates." ("Democrat" is not an adjective.) Is that a properly Christian attitude? I allow myself to feel that way about my political opponents, but I figure it must be sinful. Do you agree?

God called the corrupt Jews a "stiff-necked people." John the Baptist called the corrupt Pharisees a brood of vipers, and Jesus told the corrupt Jews they were "of their father the devil" (John chapter 8). So I don't see calling Hillary a corrupt, lying gas-bag (which she is) is out of line.

And I'm not going to read through a list on some right-wing nut page. Give me an example of an Obama lie/iniquity.

Well, you're not going to hear Obama's a liar from the liberal left.

So here's a handful of his biggest lies:

1. If you like your insurance plan, you can keep your insurance plan.
2. With Obamacare we will reduce your insurance premiums by $2,500, per family per year.
3. I cannot pass (illegal immigrant) amnesty through executive action… I am not a dictator.
4. Not one dime of Obamacare will go for abortions.
5. It was not my decision to pull all the troops from Iraq.

Videos of his lies in the link.

Here They Are... Barack Obama's FIVE BIGGEST LIES - Can You Guess Them? (Video) - The Gateway Pundit
 
Do you have an example of one from the Gospels? Just one example would be good. My studies have found the contradictions claims are way, way overblown.

They are contradictions. What is to "overblow?"


Most of slavery in that day was the result of two things: Judgment by God on wicked nations, and voluntary servitude. So God laid out rules for that.

The god of the Bible did a lot more than that. While the Hebrews were on their journey from captivity and slavery in Egypt (or so they say)...the god told them:

"Slaves, male and female, you may indeed possess, provided you BUY them from among the neighboring nations. You may also BUY them from among the aliens who reside with you and from their children who are born and reared in your land. Such slaves YOU MAY OWN AS CHATTELS, and leave to your sons as their hereditary property, MAKING THEM PERPETUAL SLAVES. But you shall not lord it harshly over any of the Israelites, your kinsmen."
Leviticus 25:44ff

How do you justify you minimizing that to just setting out some rules?

But God's primary goal was for man to love their neighbors as they love themselves.

If you are talking about the god of the Bible...I have to assume you are just joking here...to see how we react.

I laughed out loud, if that helps.
 
They are contradictions. What is to "overblow?"

Show me your best one (1) Gospel "contradiction" then. Just one (1) - your best one.

The god of the Bible did a lot more than that. While the Hebrews were on their journey from captivity and slavery in Egypt (or so they say)...the god told them:

"Slaves, male and female, you may indeed possess, provided you BUY them from among the neighboring nations. You may also BUY them from among the aliens who reside with you and from their children who are born and reared in your land. Such slaves YOU MAY OWN AS CHATTELS, and leave to your sons as their hereditary property, MAKING THEM PERPETUAL SLAVES. But you shall not lord it harshly over any of the Israelites, your kinsmen."
Leviticus 25:44ff

How do you justify you minimizing that to just setting out some rules?

Like I said, those in that passage were of voluntary servitude, or they wouldn't be for sale.

If you are talking about the god of the Bible...I have to assume you are just joking here...to see how we react.

I laughed out loud, if that helps.

Now I know justice - i.e. divine justice - is a testy proposition in the minds of skeptics, but I once did a study, and as it turned out God's justice saves hundreds of thousands from going to Hell. Just study the sins of the Canaanites.

Let's do this: How many people would 100 evil men kill in
their lifetimes? Let's say a thousand, and the 100 evil men wind up in hell
when they die. Now, let's let those 100 evil men have 100 offspring that
over time grow up to kill the original 1,000 other people, plus 1,000 more.
Now, you have 200 evil men in hell and 2,000 murdered others.

Let's take it to the 10th or so generation. Now you've had 10,000 evil men giving
birth to 10,000 offspring and together those 20,000 evil men and or women
offspring kill 200,000 people total. So, you now have 20,000 evil men and women
in hell (vs. 100 if you had nailed them earlier), plus 200,000 other dead
people. So God, being smarter than his critics, and able to see
consequences further out in time than the "God is evil" crowd,
saves 19,900 people from going to hell plus he saves 199,000 others from getting
murdered. (please excuse any math errors).

Get the picture? God SAVES!!
 
Show me your best one (1) Gospel "contradiction" then. Just one (1) - your best one.

Before I do that...first I gotta ask you if you are just pulling our legs...or if you are serious.

You wrote:

Like I said, those in that passage were of voluntary servitude, or they wouldn't be for sale.

Is that a joke?

Even the kids were of voluntary servitude?

And the people who did not want to be slaves...they could not be owned?

C'mon. Let's see if you are being serious...or just fooling with us.


Now I know justice - i.e. divine justice - is a testy proposition in the minds of skeptics, but I once did a study, and as it turned out God's justice saves hundreds of thousands from going to Hell. Just study the sins of the Canaanites.

Hey...I know a way to save millions from going to Hell. Allow abortion. Promote abortion. The aborted fetuses are fully human according you you folk...complete with souls...absolutely untarnished. Abort 'em...and they get a free pass to Heaven...and are saved from going to Hell.

Right?
 
Before I do that...first I gotta ask you if you are just pulling our legs...or if you are serious.

Show me your best one (1) Gospel contradiction. Let's see if it has legs. After all, you've never seriously studied them, have you?

Is that a joke?

Even the kids were of voluntary servitude?

And the people who did not want to be slaves...they could not be owned?

C'mon. Let's see if you are being serious...or just fooling with us.

Here, read up on this:

https://answersingenesis.org/bible-questions/doesnt-the-bible-support-slavery/

Hey...I know a way to save millions from going to Hell. Allow abortion. Promote abortion. The aborted fetuses are fully human according you you folk...complete with souls...absolutely untarnished. Abort 'em...and they get a free pass to Heaven...and are saved from going to Hell.

Right?

Like I said, God's preference was for men to love their neighbors as themselves. But they didn't do that in the time period you're alluding to. So there were consequences for sin.

Frank, there's nothing written in stone that says the individual who controls the universe has to be approved by you or I. You've been offered eternal life in Christ. Who else has that kind of a deal for you?
 
Show me your best one (1) Gospel contradiction. Let's see if it has legs. After all, you've never seriously studied them, have you?



Here, read up on this:

https://answersingenesis.org/bible-questions/doesnt-the-bible-support-slavery/



"Slaves, male and female, you may indeed possess, provided you BUY them from among the neighboring nations. You may also BUY them from among the aliens who reside with you and from their children who are born and reared in your land. Such slaves YOU MAY OWN AS CHATTELS, and leave to your sons as their hereditary property, MAKING THEM PERPETUAL SLAVES. But you shall not lord it harshly over any of the Israelites, your kinsmen."


Leviticus 25:44ff


C'mon, Logicman!


Like I said, God's preference was for men to love their neighbors as themselves. But they didn't do that in the time period you're alluding to. So there were consequences for sin.


The god of the Bible???

Love one another?

What are you thinking?

Have you read Leviticus and Deuteronomy?

I mean...really read it?

"When you march up to attack a city, first offer terms of peace.
If it agrees to your terms of peace and opens its gates to you,
all the people to be found in it shall serve you in forced labor.
But if it refuses to make peace with you and instead offers you
battle, lay siege to it, and when the Lord, your God, delivers it
into your hand, put every male in it to the sword, but the women
and children and livestock and all else in it that is worth
plunder you may take as your booty and you may use this plunder
of your enemies which the Lord, your God, has given you."


Deuteronomy 20:10


If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.

Deuteronomy 13:7-12

Frank, there's nothing written in stone that says the individual who controls the universe has to be approved by you or I. You've been offered eternal life in Christ.

I do not want eternal life. I'm fine living and having lots and lots of fun...and then dying. It happens.

Who else has that kind of a deal for you?

Baskin Robbins...and Kohl's?

And Walmart for the small stuff.
 
"Slaves, male and female, you may indeed possess, provided you BUY them from among the neighboring nations. You may also BUY them from among the aliens who reside with you and from their children who are born and reared in your land. Such slaves YOU MAY OWN AS CHATTELS, and leave to your sons as their hereditary property, MAKING THEM PERPETUAL SLAVES. But you shall not lord it harshly over any of the Israelites, your kinsmen."

Leviticus 25:44ff

C'mon, Logicman!

Already answered. See my previous response.

The god of the Bible???

Love one another?

What are you thinking?

Have you read Leviticus and Deuteronomy?

I mean...really read it?

"When you march up to attack a city, first offer terms of peace.
If it agrees to your terms of peace and opens its gates to you,
all the people to be found in it shall serve you in forced labor.
But if it refuses to make peace with you and instead offers you
battle, lay siege to it, and when the Lord, your God, delivers it
into your hand, put every male in it to the sword, but the women
and children and livestock and all else in it that is worth
plunder you may take as your booty and you may use this plunder
of your enemies which the Lord, your God, has given you."


Deuteronomy 20:10

Like the passage says, they were enemies, and under the Judgment of God.

So what are you thinking, Frank? Leave them be and let them murder a million people in another 10-15 generations?

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.

Deuteronomy 13:7-12

Justice.

Frank, you've got a very limited eternal view. Let that rascal live and see how many others he leads astray to wind up in Hell.

I do not want eternal life. I'm fine living and having lots and lots of fun...and then dying. It happens.

You've already got eternal life, Frank. The question now is where are you going to spend it?

Now, where's my (1) alleged Gospel contradiction?
 
Already answered. See my previous response.

That "answer" was an abomination, Logic.

The god tells the Hebrews they can buy, sell, own, and bequeath slaves.

But I can see you are not willing to buck the god. I don't blame you. If I thought that monster existed...I'd be as afraid of it as you.



Like the passage says, they were enemies, and under the Judgment of God.

Yeah...just feel the love!

So what are you thinking, Frank? Leave them be and let them murder a million people in another 10-15 generations?

Oh, no. I'd say slaughter 'em. But anyone who would say I was loving and trying to get people to live together as you were doing with the god...would be nuts.



Justice.

Frank, you've got a very limited eternal view. Let that rascal live and see how many others he leads astray to wind up in Hell.

Right. Slaughter him. And then scare people into saying that you are a loving god.

Jeez.

You've already got eternal life, Frank. The question now is where are you going to spend it?

Dream on.

Now, where's my (1) alleged Gospel contradiction?

Why bother. The torturing of logic you used to justify the Leviticus passage about slavery tells me all I need to know about how you handle these things.

Hey...no problem I doubt anyone is taking you serious.
 
So.. just all the women who accuse your favorite politicians of rape are lying?

How many of them do you believe? All of them? What about all the murders? The cocaine trafficking?

>>No, it's hypocrisy.

Yer view is superficial and self-serving.
 
Do you have an example of one from the Gospels? Just one example would be good.

So yer saying we should dismiss the Old Testament? What about the New Testament beyond the first four chapters? And I don't think you answered my main question: Is the Bible the word of God, or is it different men's interpretation of what they believed God was telling them? Are the first four chapters of the NT different somehow? They are God's literal word, but the rest of the Bible sort of isn't?

>>Most of slavery in that day was the result of two things: Judgment by God on wicked nations, and voluntary servitude. So God laid out rules for that.

What about the enslavement of Africans by Americans? Was God making a judgement there? And fwiw, I'd say "voluntary servitude" isn't slavery. I don't know how you came up with that one.

>>But God's primary goal was for man to love their neighbors as they love themselves.

Primary goal? You mean other than the brutal executions, maimings, enslavement, etc. If God wanted us to love one another, why would he sanction wanton brutality? I love God, and I think he does insist they we love one another. I'd say men, including the ones who wrote the Bible, are fallen. I don't think I should necessarily adhere strictly to what they prescribed.

>>God called the corrupt Jews a "stiff-necked people."

Someone said that God said that.

>>John the Baptist called the corrupt Pharisees a brood of vipers

And he was a man, with weaknesses just like you and me.

>>Jesus told the corrupt Jews they were "of their father the devil"

That doesn't mean he felt we shouldn't love them. God hates murder, but does he hate murderers? Or does he hope that they will turn away from wickedness, and in fact has he established a universal moral fabric that steers them in that direction?

>>So I don't see calling Hillary a corrupt, lying gas-bag (which she is) is out of line.

I think it's sinful hostility, something I surely fall into. Opposing corruption and lying doesn't mean you should condemn or even dismiss the perpetrator, does it? Isn't that one of God's main arguments, that we need to work to find the humanity in every person and seek to help transgressors turn away from sin? "As we forgive those who trespass against us," right?
 
you're not going to hear Obama's a liar from the liberal left.

True. He doesn't lie, and we don't have a partisan interest in saying/believing that he does.

>>1. If you like your insurance plan, you can keep your insurance plan.

Many of the plans that providers cancelled were so-called "junk plans." They typically had very low caps on coverage or else they just offered discounts. In others, they did not offer protection against catastrophic costs. A major element of the ACA reform is to eliminate so-called "free riders," people who don't pay for health insurance and simply rely on society to foot the bill if they suffer a health-related calamity. I'm willing to say that the president should have been more forthcoming about this. Something like "If you like yer plan that actually provides insurance against costs the rest of us will otherwise have to pay if you run up a very large bill, you can keep it."

>>2. With Obamacare we will reduce your insurance premiums by $2,500, per family per year.

That was a forecast based on the plan he proposed as a candidate, not the legislation that was enacted. Specifically, it did not contain a so-called public option. Importantly, the rate of increase in healthcare costs and health insurance costs has dropped significantly.

change-in-relative-price-of-health-care-vs-gdp-1980-2013.webp

perc_change_heath_ins_premiums_emp-based_family_coverage_2000_2014.webp

Even more substantial savings may be here soon.

healthcare_costs_future_savings.webp

>>3. I cannot pass (illegal immigrant) amnesty through executive action… I am not a dictator.

No amnesty has been enacted.

>>4. Not one dime of Obamacare will go for abortions.

Can you show me where any have?

Under Obamacare, federal funds can be used to cover abortions for pregnancies caused by rape or incest, or that endanger the mother's life. But no federal subsidies for premiums can be used for elective abortions.

Under Obamacare, health insurance plans could cover some or all elective abortions, but they can't use federal tax credits and subsidies to offset the cost. Insurance providers that cover elective abortions must charge consumers separately and deposit the money into a separate account that contains no federal money. — "Does Obamacare provide federal subsidies for elective abortions?," WaPo, Jan 26, 2015​

5. It was not my decision to pull all the troops from Iraq.

The SOFA was negotiated and signed by the previous Administration, and al-Maliki wouldn't agree to the revisions Obama wanted. It can reasonably be argued that the negotiations should have been handled differently, by I'd say al-Maliki made his overall view of how the country would be run very clear in the months following our withdrawal. In any event, Bush43 signed an agreement calling for a withdrawal in 2011.
 
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So yer saying we should dismiss the Old Testament? What about the New Testament beyond the first four chapters? And I don't think you answered my main question: Is the Bible the word of God, or is it different men's interpretation of what they believed God was telling them? Are the first four chapters of the NT different somehow? They are God's literal word, but the rest of the Bible sort of isn't?

Why don't you do some serious study on it and find out? I already have. And when you do a lot of your other questions that you posed will be answered.
 
Biden is a cluster****. But I do hope he runs instead of that corrupt gas-bag Hillary.

List of Biden's political blunders | Fox News

By the way, don't any of the Democrats who profess to be Christians ever read their Bibles? Gay sex is wrong, abortion is wrong, forced redistribution of wealth is wrong, lying is wrong, and so on. Aren't there any Democrat candidates that have character available?

the closest thing the democrats have to character is bernie sanders, at-least he's honest about his agenda, communism.
 
True. He doesn't lie, and we don't have a partisan interest in saying/believing that he does.

>>1. If you like your insurance plan, you can keep your insurance plan.

Many of the plans that providers cancelled were so-called "junk plans." They typically had very low caps on coverage or else they just offered discounts. In others, they did not offer protection against catastrophic costs. A major element of the ACA reform is to eliminate so-called "free riders," people who don't pay for health insurance and simply rely on society to foot the bill if they suffer a health-related calamity. I'm willing to say that the president should have been more forthcoming about this. Something like "If you like yer plan that actually provides insurance against costs the rest of us will otherwise have to pay if you run up a very large bill, you can keep it."

There's tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, who couldn't keep their plans.

Listen, if you're going to try to defend that serial liar - Obama - I can't help you. His presidency is corrupt - from the atrocious IRS scandal (trying to say it was just two low-level IRS employees in Cincinnati) to the Benghazi mess, to his pathetic handling of the Iran deal and the Bergdahl prisoner swap, to his unconstitutional immigration directives, etc. The man is corrupt and a liar. I can't wait until he and his wookie wife get their rear ends out of the people's White House.
 
Oh, so God should kiss their criminal as*es like the sanctuary city nitwits do?



You haven't done your homework on Christ and the resurrection, Frank. Until you do you have no room to talk.

You'd be amazed at how much homework I have done on that, Logicman.
 
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