Religious groups better educated than atheists [W: 200]

[flogger]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

Atheists average higher than religious people as a whole. The average of all the religious groups in the OP's data is 35% having a college degree, well which is below the averaged of atheists and agnostic at 64%.

I think its far simpler than that. People who put religious theology before scientific truth are simply more gullible than those that don't ergo they are more stupid. Closed minds always are

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

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I think its far simpler than that. People who put religious theology before scientific truth are simply more gullible than those that don't ergo they are more stupid. Closed minds always are

Those assertions sound pretty closed minded to me.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

1.)Why do you even bother? I stopped paying attention to you weeks ago.
2.) You have six posts in this thread, none of which say anything of value.

1.) LOL I have no clue who you even are but the deflections and running away is noted
2.) Im sure you feel that way, this thread CLEARLY proves that when people post honestly and present facts that expose and completely destroy the retarded lies you got caught posting that holds no value to YOU. But facts are valuable nonetheless. Next time try not to post lies and your posts won't get destroyed so bad LMAO.

 

[it's just me]

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1.) LOL I have no clue who you even are but the deflections and running away is noted
2.) Im sure you feel that way, this thread CLEARLY proves that when people post honestly and present facts that expose and completely destroy the retarded lies you got caught posting that holds no value to YOU. But facts are valuable nonetheless. Next time try not to post lies and your posts won't get destroyed so bad LMAO.

1. You wouldn't know honesty if it bit you in the ass.
2. Go bother someone else, you bore me.

 

[flogger]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

Those assertions sound pretty closed minded to me.

Those aren't assertions they are simply facts. People who put medieval supernatural belief systems before modern evidence based scientific fact are fools

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

1. You wouldn't know honesty if it bit you in the ass.
2. Go bother someone else, you bore me.

1.) Hey you are back, the person who doesn't respond to me but keeps reading and instead of addressing the topic and the lies you got caught posting you try a failed insults LMAO classic! Would you like to try and support the lies you got caught posting?
2.) easy solution stop posting lies and posters wont call you out for it and exposes your retarded claims. Again, please support the lies you got caught posting or simply admit you made a mistake. :shrug:
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[Casper]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

This is interesting - we are told that atheists are generally better educated than religious people, when in reality some religious groups are better educated than atheists.

The most and least educated U.S. religious groups | Pew Research Center

In some areas they are, Christian schools are good at teaching certain topics, not so much other topics.

 

[RAMOSS]

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In some areas they are, Christian schools are good at teaching certain topics, not so much other topics.

I will point out that this does not break down a 'college education' by 'Christian school' verses secular school. Merely college education. Nor does it break down to what subject matter the college education is in. It rates electrical engineering equal to basket weaving.

 

[spud_meister]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

I think its far simpler than that. People who put religious theology before scientific truth are simply more gullible than those that don't ergo they are more stupid. Closed minds always are

Not many religious people put religious truths before scientific ones. Every religious person I know goes to a doctor before a priest when they're unwell.

 

[RAMOSS]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

Not many religious people put religious truths before scientific ones. Every religious person I know goes to a doctor before a priest when they're unwell.

Yet, there are those (including trump advisors), who think world is less that 6000 years old Trump Adviser Questions Climate Change, Cites ?5,500 Year History? of Earth - Progressive Secular Humanist

 

[Hari Seldon]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

Well, Unitarians consider themselves a religion and meet IRS standards of being a religion so perhaps we should accept them as a religion. Unitarians hold the dogma of agreeing to the 7 principles. Of course, I would contend that atheism is a religion as well when followers consider it a " cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith" (a Merriam-Webster's definition of religion). Like any other demographic sorting, it has some meaning for sociologist types and I don't see a reason to consider it inaccurate. Of course, a problem will arise if government uses it as it does some ethnic and racial sorting and organizes social programs around it. Say trying to increase the number of Jehovah Witness college attendance by demanding universities track these things in admittance forms.

I'm not sure what the IRS has to do with anything. You can have a religion without their approval, all they are interested in is the tax-ability of the contributions and operations. Its a silly op trying to peg specific religions and education. Someone has their panties in a twist that the big bad atheists say the religious are less educated. What does less educated even mean. My dad only completed a year of community college. He still managed to complete 4 years in the air force, a 10 year stint with the IRS and the rest of his career in an investment bank doing tax work and planning for the wealthy. Worked on the NYT crossword puzzle regularly. I'm sure there are plenty of people with similar types of backgrounds of little formal education but plenty of real world education and intelligence. Just as I'm sure there are many educated beyond their intelligence.

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

Those aren't assertions they are simply facts. People who put medieval supernatural belief systems before modern evidence based scientific fact are fools

Face it, your scientific belief system can no more prove itself than the supernatural. Each idea is based on basic assumptions. We all presuppose reality, we are here and something is occurring whether solid rational reality or not. Neither side are ever able to credibly solve for from where did each come originally? Nor the concept of when

Your facts, in light of the assumptions, are only facts based on those same shaky assumptions. Without asserting the non-provable, therefore in all probability the bogus, no true rational way to get around it.. that is a confirmable fact, by logic..

 

[RAMOSS]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

Face it, your scientific belief system can no more prove itself than the supernatural. Each idea is based on basic assumptions. We all presuppose reality, we are here and something is occurring whether solid rational reality or not. Neither side are ever able to credibly solve for from where did each come originally? Nor the concept of when

Your facts, in light of the assumptions, are only facts based on those same shaky assumptions. Without asserting the non-provable, therefore in all probability the bogus, no true rational way to get around it.. that is a confirmable fact, by logic..

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Well, here is where you are wrong. This is this little matter of 'being able to test and make predictions' and the concept of falsifying a theory. But, don't let your trying to make a false equivalency get in the way.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

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Well, here is where you are wrong. This is this little matter of 'being able to test and make predictions' and the concept of falsifying a theory. But, don't let your trying to make a false equivalency get in the way.

He and logic remain both hilariously and tragically unacquainted. One wonders why people try and reference what they don't understand.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

Face it, your scientific belief system can no more prove itself than the supernatural. Each idea is based on basic assumptions. We all presuppose reality, we are here and something is occurring whether solid rational reality or not. Neither side are ever able to credibly solve for from where did each come originally? Nor the concept of when

Your facts, in light of the assumptions, are only facts based on those same shaky assumptions. Without asserting the non-provable, therefore in all probability the bogus, no true rational way to get around it.. that is a confirmable fact, by logic..

A. Science doesn't 'prove' anything. It confirms by observation. That you don't understand that isn't even remotely surprising.
B. As the supernatural is not falsifiable, testable or quantifiable, quite apart from the fact that there is no general agreement on what it actually is, science doesn't concern itself with it.
C. Duh.

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

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f
Well, here is where you are wrong. This is this little matter of 'being able to test and make predictions' and the concept of falsifying a theory. But, don't let your trying to make a false equivalency get in the way.

Be my guest, go ahead, prove it then. What does testing and predictions prove about origins? Answer the two questions. Where did everything start, scientifically? And When?

 

[flogger]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

Not many religious people put religious truths before scientific ones. Every religious person I know goes to a doctor before a priest when they're unwell.

That 40% of Americans believe the world is less than 10,000 years old and nearly 50% are Creationists says enough I think. Despite the revelations of modern science these numbers have been steadily increasing

 

[flogger]

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Face it, your scientific belief system can no more prove itself than the supernatural.

Nonsense. Ever hear of a thing called empirical evidence ?

Each idea is based on basic assumptions. We all presuppose reality, we are here and something is occurring whether solid rational reality or not.

No science is a series of hypothesies that are tested tested and tested again against evidence. If the hypothesis is found wanting it is discarded or replaced with one that is sustainable. This is the exact opposite of what happens with religious theology

Neither side are ever able to credibly solve for from where did each come originally? Nor the concept of when

If scientific concepts were unprovable then how did this technological world you see around you come into being ? Or did the big sky god just wave his wand again ? :lol:

Your facts, in light of the assumptions, are only facts based on those same shaky assumptions.

What shaky assumptions ?

Without asserting the non-provable, therefore in all probability the bogus, no true rational way to get around it.. that is a confirmable fact, by logic..

Pure gobbledygook

 

[flogger]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

Be my guest, go ahead, prove it then. What does testing and predictions prove about origins? Answer the two questions. Where did everything start, scientifically? And When?

Who made god then ?

Do you see how that works ?

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

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Who made god then ?

Do you see how that works ?

Your question, "Who made god then" is not a scientific answer the question of proof of origins as your beleifs, nor even a hypothesis as to the origins of your "scientific" system. It is pure deflection. It tells us no more than any other belief system.

So, scientifically, if you will, observe, this is your best comeback? So you see, I see exactly how it works, may I remind you with my original post?

Here is the pertinent part,

Face it, your scientific belief system can no more prove itself than the supernatural. Each idea is based on basic assumptions.

Which is signaled by your inevitable fallback position to slide out of "proving" your own system, by challenging those who believe in god, and also cannot "prove" theirs. So your so called "scientific", or one might even say your religious belief in your scientific system, is also based on an assumption that cannot be established as veritably true, only surmised ...

As such there is no superiority, just a false sense of superiority asserted with no true science in support. Simply another, co existing belief system, one of the many.

 

[flogger]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

Your question, "Who made god then" is not a scientific answer the question of proof of origins as your beleifs, nor even a hypothesis as to the origins of your "scientific" system.

I have no 'beliefs' nor is there any such thing as a scientific 'system' so your question is moot. Theres what is provable and theres what isn't. I prefer the former

It is pure deflection. It tells us no more than any other belief system.

Science is not a 'belief system' it is a self evident fact

Which is signaled by your inevitable fallback position to slide out of "proving" your own system, by challenging those who believe in god, and also cannot "prove" theirs. So your so called "scientific", or one might even say your religious belief in your scientific system, is also based on an assumption that cannot be established as veritably true, only surmised ...

Well if you reject science in favour of supernatural bronze age deities then good luck with that.

As such there is no superiority, just a false sense of superiority asserted with no true science in support. Simply another, co existing belief system, one of the many.

There is no moral or empirical equivalency whatsoever between science and religious theology. Now back to my original question

Who created god ? :waiting:

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

I have no 'beliefs' nor is there any such thing as a scientific 'system' so your question is moot. Theres what is provable and theres what isn't. I prefer the former



Science is not a 'belief system' it is a self evident fact



Well if you reject science in favour of supernatural bronze age deities then good luck with that.



There is no moral or empirical equivalency whatsoever between science and religious theology. Now back to my original question

Who created god ? :waiting:

Well, congratulations, you win the prize for having the least science, absolutely none, of any scientific answer presented to me.

Confident in that non answer, are you?

Funny that you cannot bring yourself admit what is obvious. Instead you try to hide right here in plain sight, in front of everyone, deflecting, throwing up some pretend cloak of secrecy? Some invisible shield that protects science, a force field in the mind perhaps?

Okay, thanks for the chuckle anyhow.

 

[flogger]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

Well, congratulations, you win the prize for having the least science, absolutely none, of any scientific answer presented to me.

But you reject science as a fact and called it a 'belief system' . You can't have it both ways

Confident in that non answer, are you?

What non answer ?

Funny that you cannot bring yourself admit what is obvious. Instead you try to hide right here in plain sight, in front of everyone, deflecting, throwing up some pretend cloak of secrecy? Some invisible shield that protects science, a force field in the mind perhaps?

Funny how you evade answering my question. So for a third time.... who created god ? :waiting:

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

But you reject science as a fact and called it a 'belief system' . You can't have it both ways



What non answer ?



Funny how you evade answering my question. So for a third time.... who created god ? :waiting:

I didn't ask to have it both ways. If you believe science over religion, that is your beleif, henceforward to be understood as a belief system. Your denial noted, rejected.

Good lord dude, I never know if you guys are actually as naive as you make out to be or just pulling my leg, which is it please? I asserted that your belief system, science, does not inform us any more provably than does religion as to where or when this all started. So, I asked you to prove by science where it started [the very beginning ] and when it started... show me the science.

God has always been, nothing created god. That is most certainly currently unprovable, [ though obviously god could reveal himself in some profound way if he so decided, I suppose ] just like ANYTHING as to the origins, how everything began, being proven by scientific fact. We have no clue, science wise, what was here to begin with, if it was always there, why or how... nada.

So, with neither side able to start with anything but unproven assumptions, god always being, the universe always there or what was there before that and how did it get there, none of which is provable. Why must you drag this out? I keep chopping off you legs and you keep pretending you have a leg to stand on.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Re: Religious groups better educated than atheists

But you reject science as a fact and called it a 'belief system' . You can't have it both ways

What non answer ?

Funny how you evade answering my question. So for a third time.... who created god ? :waiting:

When you're dealing with the scientifically illiterate and pathologically dishonest, don't expect rational answers.

To claim that 'science is a belief sytsem' when it's actually a method of investigation merely exposes the house of cards that some people desperately need to protect to keep their tiny worlds from collapsing.