ravens24 said:It seems to me that people are believing in God less and less. Soon enough, America will become like Europe. If there is no God, then nothing is wrong. I see this as a Liberal squawking point. Liberals..those who think anything to do with God is bad and that nothing is wrong and everything should be legalized. Why isnt mureder legalized? I mean..theres no God, so there was no commandment ever saying not to kill somebody. I mean..what if it was you're religion. Oh wait thats right..they alread stand up for terrorists rights. Silly me. How bout that ACLU, the people in charge there would be delighted to find out theres a God when they die, and that the morals and values that are taught in the Bible were really true!
ravens24 said:It seems to me that people are believing in God less and less. Soon enough, America will become like Europe. If there is no God, then nothing is wrong. I see this as a Liberal squawking point. Liberals..those who think anything to do with God is bad and that nothing is wrong and everything should be legalized. Why isnt mureder legalized? I mean..theres no God, so there was no commandment ever saying not to kill somebody. I mean..what if it was you're religion. Oh wait thats right..they alread stand up for terrorists rights. Silly me. How bout that ACLU, the people in charge there would be delighted to find out theres a God when they die, and that the morals and values that are taught in the Bible were really true!
ravens24 said:Good points...
But who's been truley focusing on that lately.
Perhaps, some people helping to rebuild New Orleans...but I mean..in political office...
Kandahar said:Don't you think that society can figure out that murder is bad on its own, without the aid of a 2000-year-old book?
ravens24 said:It seems to me that people are believing in God less and less.
Soon enough, America will become like Europe. If there is no God, then nothing is wrong.
I mean..theres no God, so there was no commandment ever saying not to kill somebody.
ravens24 said:It seems to me that people are believing in God less and less. Soon enough, America will become like Europe. If there is no God, then nothing is wrong. I see this as a Liberal squawking point. Liberals..those who think anything to do with God is bad and that nothing is wrong and everything should be legalized. Why isnt mureder legalized? I mean..theres no God, so there was no commandment ever saying not to kill somebody. I mean..what if it was you're religion. Oh wait thats right..they alread stand up for terrorists rights. Silly me. How bout that ACLU, the people in charge there would be delighted to find out theres a God when they die, and that the morals and values that are taught in the Bible were really true!
alphamale said:The only basis for morality I've heard from the vast majority of liberals is whatever the majority votes for in a democracy, or "situational ethics", which means they decide by some mysterious means what they should do, on the fly, as situations arise.
Navy Pride said:I believe a lot of Liberals wish there was no God........After all they want him out of everything...It seems like every day they are complaining about something with God in it be it the Pledge of Allegiance or in the schools......
The Mantra of the sixties by the left was "If it feels good do it."
I myself am not that religeous but I am Go fearing and I think if the "Big fella" in the sky is looking down on what is happening in this world he can not be happy at what he sees...........
Take heed people, you reap what you sow..........
SouthernDemocrat said:Indeed you do. If you ever do choose to become more religious, and study the words of Christ, you will find that much of what you typically decry against and call socialism and liberalism, are what he called his people to do. As I pointed out earlier, there are less than 10 verses in the entire Bible that deal with the subject of Homosexuality. However, there are over 3000 verses on the poor. In fact, no other subject is mentioned more often. You will find no words at all in the Gospels of Jesus Christ that endorse preemptive war. You will find no words at all in the Gospels of Jesus Christ that tells us that greed and materialism is ok.
You will find no words at all in the Gospels of Jesus Christ that even mention homosexuality or any of the other wedge issues the religious right consistently uses to divide us.
What you will find is a message of living a simple life, of peace, and of helping the less fortunate among us.
If God is not happy with he sees in our actions, it is probably due to our greed, our self-righteousness, our war mongering, our materialism, and our exploitation of his creation. You see the religious right spend massive sums of money on “the cultural war” yet very little on helping those who are in dire need. If they really were concerned with doing God’s work, then instead of erecting bill boards on “the war on Christmas” or saving “traditional marriage”, they would put those resources into maybe helping the 15 million children who every year die of starvation. In the time it takes you to read this post, several children under the age of 5 will die of starvation.
Actually, there are less than 10 references in the whole Bible about the act of homosexuality. As I pointed out earlier, twice now, there are over 3000 on helping the poor. Abortions were mentioned in the Old Testament. There are scriptural arguments against them and ones that are indifferent. We do know that the Jews did not believe that life began until birth and the baby took their first breath of air. Just the same, as I pointed out earlier, anyone who has ever read the Gospels would know that the teachings of Christ are essentially a handbook for liberalism.Navy Pride said:No mention of homosexuality because the word was not invented then but there is plenty of mention about man laying with man and Sodom and I am sure Christ would not take to lightly of killing in the womb which are beliefs of the liberal left..........
You call yourseld SD so I believe you probably not as Godless as the typical Northern or Westward liberal but if you are judging by the way Senatorial and Presidential elections ahve gone in the last few years you must be feeling pretty lonely.......
talloulou said:You think there's more atheists? Or you think more and more people are just against organized religion? I know I myself wouldn't say I think there's no God. I would say I have no idea if there is one or two or three or aliens or something else I can't understand. I do think there's SOMETHING I just haven't a clue what?:rofl But just because I haven't picked an organized religion or book to follow that doesn't mean I'm not spiritual.
Plus I don't believe people need religion to tell them whats right and wrong. You know in your heart what's right and wrong.
Is there really no God in Europe? Is THAT what's going on over there?:rofl Seriously though does Europe have high poll numbers of atheists? I never heard that before.
Well are people in Europe killing each other more than people in more religious places?
alphamale said:The only basis for morality I've heard from the vast majority of liberals is whatever the majority votes for in a democracy, or "situational ethics", which means they decide by some mysterious means what they should do, on the fly, as situations arise.
SouthernDemocrat said:Actually, there are less than 10 references in the whole Bible about the act of homosexuality. As I pointed out earlier, twice now, there are over 3000 on helping the poor. Abortions were mentioned in the Old Testament. There are scriptural arguments against them and ones that are indifferent. We do know that the Jews did not believe that life began until birth and the baby took their first breath of air. Just the same, as I pointed out earlier, anyone who has ever read the Gospels would know that the teachings of Christ are essentially a handbook for liberalism.
ravens24 said:It seems to me that people are believing in God less and less.
ravens24 said:Soon enough, America will become like Europe.
ravens24 said:If there is no God, then nothing is wrong.
ravens24 said:I see this as a Liberal squawking point. Liberals..those who think anything to do with God is bad and that nothing is wrong and everything should be legalized. Why isnt mureder legalized? I mean..theres no God, so there was no commandment ever saying not to kill somebody. I mean..what if it was you're religion. Oh wait thats right..they alread stand up for terrorists rights. Silly me. How bout that ACLU, the people in charge there would be delighted to find out theres a God when they die, and that the morals and values that are taught in the Bible were really true!
SouthernDemocrat said:What are you talking about? Jesus Christ is a Liberal. Have you ever bothered actually reading the Gospels? In the Bible, there are less than 10 verses dealing with the subject of Homosexuality. THERE ARE SOME 3000 DEALING WITH HELPING THE POOR! In fact, there are more verses on helping the poor than on any other subject of the Bible. What do you think? That Jesus is some greedy, hate mongering, materialistic, self righteous long haired version of Jerry Falwell?
SouthernDemocrat said:I mean come on, you right wingers have to disregard nine tenths of the Bible in order for it to somehow fit your world view.
SouthernDemocrat said:Look at the core teachings of the Gospels of Jesus Christ:
- Help the poor and less fortunate.
SouthernDemocrat said:[*]Avoid materialism.
SouthernDemocrat said:[*]Peace.
SouthernDemocrat said:That is liberalism in a nutshell.
Scarecrow Akhbar said:There is no god and nothing is wrong with people recognizing this simple fact.
Scarecrow Akhbar said:What morals and values in the Bible? There are none.
Gardener said:I doubt too many people here have read anything by George Lakoff
SouthernDemocrat said:What are you talking about? Jesus Christ is a Liberal. Have you ever bothered actually reading the Gospels? In the Bible, there are less than 10 verses dealing with the subject of Homosexuality. THERE ARE SOME 3000 DEALING WITH HELPING THE POOR! In fact, there are more verses on helping the poor than on any other subject of the Bible. What do you think? That Jesus is some greedy, hate mongering, materialistic, self righteous long haired version of Jerry Falwell? I mean come on, you right wingers have to disregard nine tenths of the Bible in order for it to somehow fit your world view.
Look at the core teachings of the Gospels of Jesus Christ:
That is liberalism in a nutshell.
- Help the poor and less fortunate.
- Avoid materialism.
- Peace.
The Real McCoy said:Then you should have no problem providing me with evidence supporting this fact.
The Real McCoy said:Yea... lying, stealing, cheating, murder etc. should be encouraged.
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