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I mean like rates will remain low and it will reduce the debt
You mean like death panels and socialism? I won't argue no misinformation came from democrats, but it is the blantant lies of the opposition that have made it impossible to treat this subject reasonably.
I mean like rates will remain low and it will reduce the debt
I mean like rates will remain low and it will reduce the debt
The latest poll for the Las Vegas Review-Journal, taken Sept. 20-24, had Angle and Reid tied, 43-43. It was conducted by Mason-Dixon Polling & Research, which uses random-digit dialing to call voters. Previous Mason-Dixon surveys showed the race within a point or two, with Reid up over Angle.
Using similar polling methods, a string of surveys this past week gave Angle the edge, however. One put her at the 50 percent mark for the first time.
An auto-dial Rasmussen poll showed Angle edging Reid, 50-46, just within the margin of error of plus or minus four percentage points. CNN/Time had Angle up, 42-40, and Fox News 49-46
"The race is still a toss-up, but it is looking increasingly grim for the majority leader," concluded Real Clear Politics, which had Angle pulling ahead for the first time in poll watch.
"Nevada had long been in a stalemate, and even if these reeds of evidence are thin, they are enough for the forecasting model to make Ms. Angle a 66 percent favorite, up from 56 percent last week," [new york times polling expert nate] Silver wrote on Friday.
Tell me how Nevada or the country wins if its choice is betweem a poor 24 year vet and a wack job? Who should be happy about that?
The Republicans.. since they will have the seat and can gloat. That she is a wack job and will cause massive problems for them later on and cause the US harm, does not matter to the Republicans.. they won after all.. and winning is all that matters for the Republicans. The Republicans dont care about Americans, only about themselves after all.
The Republicans.. since they will have the seat and can gloat. That she is a wack job and will cause massive problems for them later on and cause the US harm, does not matter to the Republicans.. they won after all.. and winning is all that matters for the Republicans. The Republicans dont care about Americans, only about themselves after all.
Do you even know anything about politics?
Tell me how Nevada or the country wins if its choice is betweem a poor 24 year vet and a wack job? Who should be happy about that?
The Republicans.. since they will have the seat and can gloat. That she is a wack job and will cause massive problems for them later on and cause the US harm, does not matter to the Republicans.. they won after all.. and winning is all that matters for the Republicans. The Republicans dont care about Americans, only about themselves after all.
Ah yes, let the oversimplication and petty justifications begin.
Actually, no, people from all sides have been collectively watching with a "WTF" look on their face since Obama and his ilk got into action. People are screaming "where are you getting all this money?" and "what in the hell have we elected?"
November will be the classic do-over from Americans, who are over the "historical" idea of electing a black guy no matter what he actually believes in.
Tell me how Nevada or the country wins if its choice is betweem a poor 24 year vet and a wack job? Who should be happy about that?
Actually WINNING is ALL that matters for Democrats because if it were different than someone like Boxer would never have arrived in the Senate to begin with considering her 1992 First race against Bruce Herschenson- or Frank Lautenbergs narrow 1982 Win over Millicent Fenwick.
You and others are free to answer the questions:
Poor as in he doen't have lots of money? I thought the Democrats hated rich people, wanted to increase their taxes and make them pay 'their fair share'? You should be thrilled someone without money is runnig for elected office.
And campared to how fast things were growing before reform, in the long run, the democrat fib may trun out to be true.
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama told voters repeatedly during the health care debate that the overhaul legislation would bring down fast-rising health care costs and save them money.
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THE FACTS:Health spending already accounts for about 17 percent of the economy and is projected to grow to nearly 20 percent in 2019.
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_fact_check
No one will be compelled to buy coverage.
THE FACTS: Obama is behaving as if he said never a hostile word about the mandate. Earlier this month, in a letter to Sens. Max Baucus, D-Mont., and Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., he blithely declared that he was all for "making every American responsible for having health insurance coverage, and making employers share in the cost."
But just like Hillary, he is refusing to say precisely what he will do to those who want to forgo insurance. There is a name for such a health care approach: It is called TonySopranoCare.
Obama's Top Five Health Care Lies - Forbes.com
Hell, compared to death panels and socialism, those are prue minor league.....However, the death panel socialism stuff never will be true.
If President Obama wanted to keep a lid on that particular controversy, he just selected about the worst possible nominee for director of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the office that oversees government health care programs. Obama’s pick, Dr. Donald Berwick, is an outspoken admirer of the British National Health Service and its rationing arm, the National Institute for Clinical Effectiveness (NICE).
“I am romantic about the National Health Service. I love it,” Berwick said during a 2008 speech to British physicians, going on to call it “generous, hopeful, confident, joyous, and just.” He compared the wonders of British health care to a U.S. system that he described as trapped in “the darkness of private enterprise.”
Berwick was referring to a British health care system where 750,000 patients are awaiting admission to NHS hospitals. The government’s official target for diagnostic testing was a wait of no more than 18 weeks by 2008. The reality doesn’t come close. The latest estimates suggest that for most specialties, only 30 to 50 percent of patients are treated within 18 weeks. For trauma and orthopedics patients, the figure is only 20 percent.
‘Death panels’ were an overblown claim – until now | The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment
Left-leaning New York Times economic columnist Paul Krugman says the so-called "death panels" established by President Obama's trillion-dollar nationalized health-care plan will end up saving "a lot of money" for the government.
The comments from Krugman, who also writes on the New York Times blogs, came during a discussion of "Obamacare" on the ABC News Sunday program "This Week."
N.Y. Times columnist: Death panels will save 'a lot of money'
Lie of the year stuff.
Wait, wait, wait here...."The Democrat Fib"? what was that according to you? would that be....
Are you saying it was the truth? Otherwise, you're agreeing with me? BTW, If you really care about valid sources, I wouldn't use Forbes on political stuff. Their bias can be found in both language and inaccuracy.
Well, not so fast Joe....
A lie repeated is still a lie. Lie of the year as I recall.
And on, and on that debate goes.
No, it doesn't. It was a lie, and there is no debate about that. Being a tool who believes falsehoods despite the clear evidence doesn't make it debatable. Sorry. Birthers suffer from the same problem as those who believe there would be death panels.
the only "Lie of the year stuff" that is going on here is through demo's desperate to salvage their own credibility in this election cycle. They are lying Joe. And you are buying it hook, line, and sinker....consider:
j-mac
Priceless that you use Beck here. Like I keep saying, garbage in equals farbage out.
You and others are free to answer the questions:
Tell me how Nevada or the country wins if its choice is betweem a poor 24 year vet and a wack job? Who should be happy about that?
Are you saying it was the truth? Otherwise, you're agreeing with me?
If you really care about valid sources, I wouldn't use Forbes on political stuff. Their bias can be found in both language and inaccuracy.
A lie repeated is still a lie. Lie of the year as I recall.
No, it doesn't. It was a lie, and there is no debate about that.
Being a tool who believes falsehoods despite the clear evidence doesn't make it debatable. Sorry.
Birthers suffer from the same problem as those who believe there would be death panels.
Priceless that you use Beck here. Like I keep saying, garbage in equals farbage out.
It's always easier to shoot the messenger when they bring you something you don't like.j-mac said:Notice again folks, how nothing in that Beck clip is refuted by Joe here, just ridicule, and mockery. Pure Allinsky pap
It's always easier to shoot the messenger when they bring you something you don't like.
The Republicans.. since they will have the seat and can gloat. That she is a wack job and will cause massive problems for them later on and cause the US harm, does not matter to the Republicans.. they won after all.. and winning is all that matters for the Republicans. The Republicans dont care about Americans, only about themselves after all.
I am asking you to clarify what you are terming as the "Fib" here. Pretty simple really.
So you don't like the source....Too bad, refute the content. My guess is that you can't.
You have to show where this is a lie, That is the standard adhered to by demo's, so I am anxiously awaiting your refutation.
Sorry, you don't get to determine that.
Again, you are not refuting anything. Name calling, and intellectual vapidness is no argument, just a reflection of how lacking your argument is.
Who's the "Birther"?
Notice again folks, how nothing in that Beck clip is refuted by Joe here, just ridicule, and mockery. Pure Allinsky pap.
j-mac
Well, let's break this down just a little bit shall we?
First off, the term "whack job" is a subjective term meant to demean Sharon Angle simply because you disagree with her policies and statements, however, it is clear that according to the polls that Nevadans have her in the lead with Reid never above 50% and losing ground in his campaign. So you are clearly in the minority of thinking here.
Second, describing Reid, a career politician who has been caught in more lies than anyone I can think of recently, and a moron to boot, is going to lose, and I say good riddance.
Now, carry on.
j-mac
You don't know what the word FIB means? Seriously? A little lie.
Nothing to refute. No real substance.
There were never any death panels; that's the lie. In fact, the actual panels they were considering would have give more care, more options than there is now. Insurance companies make cost decisions daily, denying care, but they don't have death panels either.
Says who? You might want to debate whether it is day time here or not, but that would make it a valid debate. Just because some want to pretend something is there that isn't don;t make it a debate. And yes, I can determine that.
Again, it's Beck. What thinking person addresses Beck. if this is as valid as you claim, find a valid source. I won't play with Beckish games.
Reading comprehension is your friend. Try reading it again. I'm making a comparison.
Again, it would be like disputing Eric Cartman. Or talkign to a coffee table as someone put it. No point. Anything that is valis can be found in a valid source. IF you can't do that, you should rethink your position.
With arrogance, and a serious lack of substance coming from you as quoted here, it is abundantly clear, that you are not going to honestly address any debate that doesn't agree with you, nor do you have any intention of backing up any of your claims. It is for that reason that I admittedly sadly move on to debate people that are interested in furthering an actual discussion, and not a playground tantrum as you exhibit here.
when you return to a more honest form of discussion, maybe we can have back and forth, but your positions to this point are ridiculous and are undeserving of my time, or effort.
Where is the Joe I know?
j-mac
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