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Reckless BigMouth Trump Threatens More damage With Complicity From The GOP = NEVER VOTE GOP

This will end soon enough, but not without damage — damage far more serious than any effect on the president’s legacy. Tearing at the integrity of the electoral process to satisfy the bruised ego of the president will leave the country more divided and more difficult for President-elect Joe Biden to govern. The president threatens to burn down the house on his way out the door.

Biden has won the election. The results are not yet certified. In some states, the margins are close. There will be recounts and the Trump campaign is within its rights to pursue them, even if they are not triggered automatically. But reversing counts in enough states to change the reality that Biden has the necessary electoral votes is fanciful.

The spaghetti strategy of lawsuits employed by the Trump team has yet to prove any systematic or widespread fraud, or that any irregularities that might turn up would result in Trump winning where he is losing. Allegations, even in affidavits, are not ironclad proof required in court.

Some of the president’s closest allies seem to have lost touch with how elections work. Last Saturday, shortly after networks projected that Biden would become the 46th president, Rudolph Giuliani accused the Democrats of trying to steal the election. “Networks don’t get to decide elections,” he lamented. “Courts do.”

Actually, voters decide elections, and in this case they have. Courts step in when necessary to adjudicate disputes. In 2000, the Supreme Court effectively decided the election by stopping the Florida recount with George W. Bush 537 votes ahead of Al Gore. No one thought it was good that the court decided the election.

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This year, no state count is anywhere as close as Florida was on the day the recount battle started in 2000. The Trump team hasn’t produced anything that would suggest that the president can reverse the margins where he is disputing the results.

Giuliani conveniently ignored the fact that, four years ago, these same networks called the election for Donald Trump, and a lot sooner than they did for Biden this year. Not every vote had been counted then, but the world — and Hillary Clinton — accepted the reality that was clear from the numbers. Clinton conceded the next morning.

For their own reasons, Republican elected officials have decided to become complicit in the charade. Humoring the president or turning away in silence when he abuses the traditions of his office have become ingrained behavior for all but a handful of Republicans in office.

 
PA, GA, MI , WI & NV should be forced to vote over again with proper oversight and no fraudulent ballots. Biden couldn't win any of those states except by fraud. The left accused Trump of somehow winning fraudulently in 2016 and yet, here they are, doing in 2020 what they falsely accused Trump of. There's a reason they wanted mass mail in ballots, earlier and earlier voting, later and later counting, went around state legislatures and wanted nobody observing the process. They can't win otherwise. The silver lining is that their lunatic policies ought to do enough damage in two years to put both houses of Congress in GOP hands.
 
Razoo said:
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The mainstream media trying to blow more smoke. Unfortunately, there are people who willingly bend over and spread their nether cheeks so they can get as much smoke as they can.
 
Razoo said:
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The legal reckoning awaiting Donald Trump if he loses the election | CNN Politics

If things don't go Donald Trump's way on Election Day, the President may face more serious matters than how to pack up the West Wing.
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veritas1 said:
PA, GA, MI , WI & NV should be forced to vote over again with proper oversight and no fraudulent ballots. Biden couldn't win any of those states except by fraud. The left accused Trump of somehow winning fraudulently in 2016 and yet, here they are, doing in 2020 what they falsely accused Trump of. There's a reason they wanted mass mail in ballots, earlier and earlier voting, later and later counting, went around state legislatures and wanted nobody observing the process. They can't win otherwise. The silver lining is that their lunatic policies ought to do enough damage in two years to put both houses of Congress in GOP hands.
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such BS accompanied by massive denial ......
 
veritas1 said:
PA, GA, MI , WI & NV should be forced to vote over again
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Notice how veritas only wants swing states that went blue to unconstitutionally revote. He assumes that any state that went red to have had a clean vote. :ROFLMAO:

You lost. Get over it already. Joe Biden is the President-elect, and there is nothing you can do to stop it. :)
 
Phys251 said:
Notice how veritas only wants swing states that went blue to unconstitutionally revote. He assumes that any state that went red to have had a clean vote. :ROFLMAO:

You lost. Get over it already. Joe Biden is the President-elect, and there is nothing you can do to stop it. :)
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Fine. let FL, OH and TX vote over. The only states that mysteriously had ballots appear and who counted and counted forever, were the ones where Biden erased substantial Trump leads. There were no states where Trump reversed a big Biden lead. That should tell us all exactly what happened.
 
Fishking said:
I'll alert the GOP not to rely on your vote from here on out.
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Fish, you really don't think it's irresponsible, if not harmful for the trump admin and the GOP to behave this way?
 
lurchadams said:
Fish, you really don't think it's irresponsible, if not harmful for the trump admin and the GOP to behave this way?
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How certain statements were made or phrased, for sure. The sentiment behind it and just using better phraseology? No. I think there are enough questions and a few issues with an election that is split by less than a % in a few states to swing it to demand validation of the vote. I don't think it will change the outcome but it's something that should be done to alleviate potential unrest. We've already seen what that can lead with with the last 4 years as an example.
 
veritas1 said:
PA, GA, MI , WI & NV should be forced to vote over again with proper oversight and no fraudulent ballots. Biden couldn't win any of those states except by fraud. The left accused Trump of somehow winning fraudulently in 2016 and yet, here they are, doing in 2020 what they falsely accused Trump of. There's a reason they wanted mass mail in ballots, earlier and earlier voting, later and later counting, went around state legislatures and wanted nobody observing the process. They can't win otherwise. The silver lining is that their lunatic policies ought to do enough damage in two years to put both houses of Congress in GOP hands.
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Not happening and should not happen. No reason for it to happen outside the mind of the totally irrational. We have plenty of that around here.
 
veritas1 said:
PA, GA, MI , WI & NV should be forced to vote over again with proper oversight and no fraudulent ballots. Biden couldn't win any of those states except by fraud. The left accused Trump of somehow winning fraudulently in 2016 and yet, here they are, doing in 2020 what they falsely accused Trump of. There's a reason they wanted mass mail in ballots, earlier and earlier voting, later and later counting, went around state legislatures and wanted nobody observing the process. They can't win otherwise. The silver lining is that their lunatic policies ought to do enough damage in two years to put both houses of Congress in GOP hands.
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But of course because Trump won states are complete legit. My lord you guys won’t stop.
 
US&THEM said:
But of course because Trump won states are complete legit. My lord you guys won’t stop.
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Already addressed. There were no states where Trump erased substantial Biden leads. That only happened to Trump and in mostly swing states. My what a coincidence.
 
veritas1 said:
Already addressed. There were no states where Trump erased substantial Biden leads. That only happened to Trump and in mostly swing states. My what a coincidence.
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Not a coincidence whatsoever, the President started to undermine mail in voting and railed against on a daily basis. The Trump base do what their messiah tells them and went to vote in person, add the GOP passing laws in those states to not allow counting of the mail in votes until the polls closed on election and there you have it. The Trump,campaign refuses to accept reality.
 
Razoo said:
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What a stupid pointless editorial. It truly is absurd to claim that somehow Trump has a duty to torpedo is own side and become a diehard Biden supporter to help Biden destroy everything Trump and Republicans did.

The level of juvenile stupidity of most progressives is stunning. Of course Trump is going to cause ever block he can to old fat Beijing Biden exactly as he should. If Biden is so incompetent he can't be president without Trump's help then Biden should concede.
 
US&THEM said:
Not a coincidence whatsoever, the President started to undermine mail in voting and railed against on a daily basis. The Trump base do what their messiah tells them and went to vote in person, add the GOP passing laws in those states to not allow counting of the mail in votes until the polls closed on election and there you have it. The Trump,campaign refuses to accept reality.
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The whole system now inspires no confidence whatsoever due to the chaos, confusion and uncertainty surrounding it. Sadly, that's how the Dems like it because fraud is their friend.
 
veritas1 said:
The whole system now inspires no confidence whatsoever due to the chaos, confusion and uncertainty surrounding it. Sadly, that's how the Dems like it because fraud is their friend.
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I am and always have been a registered Independent. Trump is desperate and posts like yours have zero merit.
 
veritas1 said:
The whole system now inspires no confidence whatsoever due to the chaos, confusion and uncertainty surrounding it. Sadly, that's how the Dems like it because fraud is their friend.
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Then please do the country a favor and stop voting. You've gone off the deep end of irrationality and childish immaturity. You lost. Get over it. You don't get a do-over.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Then please do the country a favor and stop voting. You've gone off the deep end of irrationality and childish immaturity. You lost. Get over it. You don't get a do-over.
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It's not childish to point out that one side is corrupting the system. Unsolicited mailing of millions of ballots to entire state voting lists can only result in fraud. It's already been shown that hundreds and hundreds of dead people miraculously sent in mail ballots and that barely scratches the surface.
 
veritas1 said:
It's not childish to point out that one side is corrupting the system. Unsolicited mailing of millions of ballots to entire state voting lists can only result in fraud. It's already been shown that hundreds and hundreds of dead people miraculously sent in mail ballots and that barely scratches the surface.
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In Pennsylvania, you have to request a ballot. Same with Michigan. Same with Georgia. Which states are you whining about?
 
veritas1 said:
PA, GA, MI , WI & NV should be forced to vote over again with proper oversight and no fraudulent ballots. Biden couldn't win any of those states except by fraud. The left accused Trump of somehow winning fraudulently in 2016 and yet, here they are, doing in 2020 what they falsely accused Trump of. There's a reason they wanted mass mail in ballots, earlier and earlier voting, later and later counting, went around state legislatures and wanted nobody observing the process. They can't win otherwise. The silver lining is that their lunatic policies ought to do enough damage in two years to put both houses of Congress in GOP hands.
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Can we all see your evidence of the fraud in PA, GA, MI, WI and NV?
 
veritas1 said:
PA, GA, MI , WI & NV should be forced to vote over again with proper oversight and no fraudulent ballots. Biden couldn't win any of those states except by fraud. The left accused Trump of somehow winning fraudulently in 2016 and yet, here they are, doing in 2020 what they falsely accused Trump of. There's a reason they wanted mass mail in ballots, earlier and earlier voting, later and later counting, went around state legislatures and wanted nobody observing the process. They can't win otherwise. The silver lining is that their lunatic policies ought to do enough damage in two years to put both houses of Congress in GOP hands.
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Where’s the actual proof to support your ridiculous accusations?

Answer: There is none.

* See my signature line. :)
 
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