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Re-re-re-debunking the Benghazi ‘stand down’ rumors[W:11]

Re: Re-re-re-debunking the Benghazi ‘stand down’ rumors[W:11]

The simple fact people would defend the one person who had the ability to stop this allowed the US Ambassador to Libya to be tortured for 13 hours straight and ignored his cries for help is disgusting.
 
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On the September 11, 2012 edition of Fox News' On the Record with Greta Van Susteren, Van Susteren twice repeated an Associated Press story that cited an anti-Islam video as a trigger for the Benghazi attack:

And? That means what?
 
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The simple fact people would defend the one person who had the ability to stop this allowed the US Ambassador to Libya to be tortured for 13 hours straight and ignored his cries for help is disgusting.

The fire in Villa C, where the Ambassador was hiding in a safe room, was set at about 10:02 PM. The Ambassador was probably dead of smoke inhalation by 10:48 PM, when the CIA rescue team arrived at the mission.
 
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That is for you to decide.

Oh I get it, Fox news reported what the administration was saying in the early part of a crisis situation and you think that matters and somehow negates questioning after the fact of events as new information comes to light. That line of thinking is, to be bluntly honest, pathetic. I get what you're trying to do, and I suppose when speaking to and with people who think bumper stickers are the height of witticism, you would be held in awe. However, I am not so easily distracted by juvenile debate tactics. Let's take your logic, then to a natural conclusion, there is no need to investigate anything after the fact. Whatever is reported on first, is all that matters. No need to ask questions, or reflect on events. If X happens, and a political entity says "It happened because of Y", reporters, with limited initial information report that Y is the cause.. then it is forever the cause. No need to look into what Y was, was it even the truth? Political entities said it was, a reporter repeated that and it's done. Y might be a lie, might not even be the truth, but who cares? It was initially reported on, so it is forever the truth.

How silly is that?

Yeah and that's the leg you're standing on, have fun with it.
 
Re: Re-re-re-debunking the Benghazi ‘stand down’ rumors[W:11]

The fire in Villa C, where the Ambassador was hiding in a safe room, was set at about 10:02 PM. The Ambassador was probably dead of smoke inhalation by 10:48 PM, when the CIA rescue team arrived at the mission.

BTW I note you fail to cite any sources for you information, does hillpac not have those available?
 
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BTW I note you fail to cite any sources for you information, does hillpac not have those available?

Google "time line Benghazi attack fire Villa C". It will take you numerous news stories on the timeline. I don't remember exactly which ones I read.
 
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Oh I get it, Fox news reported what the administration was saying in the early part of a crisis situation and you think that matters and somehow negates questioning after the fact of events as new information comes to light. That line of thinking is, to be bluntly honest, pathetic. I get what you're trying to do, and I suppose when speaking to and with people who think bumper stickers are the height of witticism, you would be held in awe. However, I am not so easily distracted by juvenile debate tactics. Let's take your logic, then to a natural conclusion, there is no need to investigate anything after the fact. Whatever is reported on first, is all that matters. No need to ask questions, or reflect on events. If X happens, and a political entity says "It happened because of Y", reporters, with limited initial information report that Y is the cause.. then it is forever the cause. No need to look into what Y was, was it even the truth? Political entities said it was, a reporter repeated that and it's done. Y might be a lie, might not even be the truth, but who cares? It was initially reported on, so it is forever the truth.

How silly is that?

Yeah and that's the leg you're standing on, have fun with it.
I am not interested in debating you. I just post the facts when I see factually incorrect statements.
 
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Security at the diplomatic mission was upgraded 13 times. A lock was installed on the front gate, but no one bothered to lock it that night, which enabled one of the attackers to scale the wall, open the gate and let a hundred armed men into the mission compound.

Please provide a link to your claim.
 
Re: Re-re-re-debunking the Benghazi ‘stand down’ rumors[W:11]

Google "time line Benghazi attack fire Villa C". It will take you numerous news stories on the timeline. I don't remember exactly which ones I read.

Im asking you what sources you are relying on. If youre afraid to post them that's on you.
 
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I am not interested in debating you. I just post the facts when I see factually incorrect statements.

But you wont post your sources. Lol
 
Re: Re-re-re-debunking the Benghazi ‘stand down’ rumors

On the September 11, 2012 edition of Fox News' On the Record with Greta Van Susteren, Van Susteren twice repeated an Associated Press story that cited an anti-Islam video as a trigger for the Benghazi attack:



You do realize that even before the attack was over the administration knew it was a coordinated and planned attack, they also knew what group was attacking.

The political game then perpetrated by the administration was at best shameful, what Hillary Clinton told the families as the coffins were coming off the plane was inexcusable.
 
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Lol, Media matters. Yep you posted some "real facts" there! The lengths people will go to to protect Hillary and Obama are down right scary.

The lengths some people will go to in order to avoid "real facts" are even scarier.

Especially, when they take the easy way out of insulting the source....rather than actually refuting it.
 
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Obsessing over 4 people. How many threads now?



You are obviously missing the point, the mis handling of Benghazi points directly to the honesty, character and competence of the Obama administration. It also ties into one who is now running for the presidency. I hardly think that is obsessing, It happens to be pointing out the truth.

Not to stray too far off topic but you do realize how many lives have been lost with this administrations incompetence, millions and counting. You and I have gone thru this before, to paraphrase, you stated “they are not Americans, I don’t care”. I’m not sure how to take that, are you suggesting some form of isolationism which will render the US immune form terror attacks like in Benghazi?
 
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The lengths some people will go to in order to avoid "real facts" are even scarier.

Especially, when they take the easy way out of insulting the source....rather than actually refuting it.

If the town fool tells you the mayor raped a kitten, do you spend the time investigating his claims?
 
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You are obviously missing the point, the mis handling of Benghazi points directly to the honesty, character and competence of the Obama administration. It also ties into one who is now running for the presidency. I hardly think that is obsessing, It happens to be pointing out the truth.

Not to stray too far off topic but you do realize how many lives have been lost with this administrations incompetence, millions and counting. You and I have gone thru this before, to paraphrase, you stated “they are not Americans, I don’t care”. I’m not sure how to take that, are you suggesting some form of isolationism which will render the US immune form terror attacks like in Benghazi?

hyperbole much?
 
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Insulting me because I said something you have no intellectual counter for... well there are other ways to raise the surrender flag I suppose but few as telling.

You basically sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting " I can't hear you!" is what I'm talking about. There was no stand down order. Fact.

Sorry you can't accept anything unless it comes from Fox News or Rush Limbaugh. But, that's not my problem.
 
Re: Re-re-re-debunking the Benghazi ‘stand down’ rumors

hyperbole much?


You may want to add up the deaths in the Middle East, Northern and Central Africa and get back to me.

I have a few standing questions with you, I’m guessing you choose not to debate the facts?
 
Re: Re-re-re-debunking the Benghazi ‘stand down’ rumors

You may want to add up the deaths in the Middle East, Northern and Central Africa and get back to me.

I have a few standing questions with you, I’m guessing you choose not to debate the facts?

Well, the only place with millions of deaths caused by the USA would be that country Bush invaded--you know, the one without any WMD.
 
Re: Re-re-re-debunking the Benghazi ‘stand down’ rumors

You basically sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting " I can't hear you!" is what I'm talking about. There was no stand down order. Fact.

Sorry you can't accept anything unless it comes from Fox News or Rush Limbaugh. But, that's not my problem.


So you are taking the word of the administration that has been proven to be dishonest about this attack from the very start. You then dismiss the actually people that were on the ground fighting the battle, are they the liars or is the administration lying?

Let’s get to some more lies you may believe, (ALL) the mourning Benghazi families stat that Hillary Clinton blamed the death of their loved one’s on the video and promised to go after the person that made it, who is telling the truth, Hillary or ALL the family members? Keep in mind Hillary is now on record saying she never said any such thing to all these people.
 
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So you are taking the word of the administration that has been proven to be dishonest about this attack from the very start. You then dismiss the actually people that were on the ground fighting the battle, are they the liars or is the administration lying?

Let’s get to some more lies you may believe, (ALL) the mourning Benghazi families stat that Hillary Clinton blamed the death of their loved one’s on the video and promised to go after the person that made it, who is telling the truth, Hillary or ALL the family members? Keep in mind Hillary is now on record saying she never said any such thing to all these people.

Blah blah blah...aren't you people sick and tired of being wrong? I know I would be by now.
 
Re: Re-re-re-debunking the Benghazi ‘stand down’ rumors[W:11]

Im asking you what sources you are relying on. If youre afraid to post them that's on you.

I can live with that.
 
Re: Re-re-re-debunking the Benghazi ‘stand down’ rumors

You do realize that even before the attack was over the administration knew it was a coordinated and planned attack, they also knew what group was attacking.

The political game then perpetrated by the administration was at best shameful, what Hillary Clinton told the families as the coffins were coming off the plane was inexcusable.

Witnesses at the scene of the attack said the attackers told them the attack was retaliation for the video that defamed the Prophet.
 
Re: Re-re-re-debunking the Benghazi ‘stand down’ rumors

You do realize that even before the attack was over the administration knew it was a coordinated and planned attack, they also knew what group was attacking.

The political game then perpetrated by the administration was at best shameful, what Hillary Clinton told the families as the coffins were coming off the plane was inexcusable.

As the attack in Benghazi was unfolding, Abu Khattala told fellow Islamist fighters and others that the assault was retaliation for the same insulting video, according to people who heard him.
 
Re: Re-re-re-debunking the Benghazi ‘stand down’ rumors

You are obviously missing the point, the mis handling of Benghazi points directly to the honesty, character and competence of the Obama administration. It also ties into one who is now running for the presidency. I hardly think that is obsessing, It happens to be pointing out the truth.

Not to stray too far off topic but you do realize how many lives have been lost with this administrations incompetence, millions and counting. You and I have gone thru this before, to paraphrase, you stated “they are not Americans, I don’t care”. I’m not sure how to take that, are you suggesting some form of isolationism which will render the US immune form terror attacks like in Benghazi?

How was Benghazi mishandled?
 
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