Ray Epps Story is a Good Indicator of Fake News Outlets and Real News Outlets

[jpn]

The theory that Ray Epps was an FBI informant stoking the mob was covered widely by the likes of Joe Rogan, the Breaking Points Podcast, the Daily Wire, and more. This theory was brought up over twenty times on Tucker Carlson’s show alone, not to mention elsewhere on Fox.

Now, thanks to the January 6th investigations and the work of actual journalists, we know that all of their hypotheses were completely wrong. Ray Epps was just an idiot shouting stupid shit in a sea of idiots shouting stupid shit on January 6th.

There was never any actual proof of this accusation. Accordingly, responsible news outlets never promoted the accusations that Fox and others did. In fact, Fox and the others hid exculpatory information, such as video of Epps trying to calm down the protesters and helping bring an injured person to safety before any of the violence against police started.

There's a real difference between right-wing media and real information sources.

 

[Ishm]

The GOP way is to promote as many stories as they can to distract from whatever they are doing wrong. Evidence and accuracy are just not their concerns. Their concern is to either distract from their own failings, or damage the dems and distract from anything they are achieving. Fear and hate are today's Republicans currency. I hate watching it happen as it seriously diminishes the credibility of the GOP among anyone who can think further than a headline. Unfortunately, their attempts to mislead the voters are often effective. It's a sad reflection on the intelligence of the average Republican voter today, and it wasn't always like that.

 

[Mr Person]

Is the new theory that the FBI abandoned him to make "The Deep State" look good?

The lying idiot base will say anything

 

[Fishking]

The theory that Ray Epps was an FBI informant stoking the mob was covered widely by the likes of Joe Rogan, the Breaking Points Podcast, the Daily Wire, and more. This theory was brought up over twenty times on Tucker Carlson’s show alone, not to mention elsewhere on Fox.

Now, thanks to the January 6th investigations and the work of actual journalists, we know that all of their hypotheses were completely wrong. Ray Epps was just an idiot shouting stupid shit in a sea of idiots shouting stupid shit on January 6th.

There was never any actual proof of this accusation. Accordingly, responsible news outlets never promoted the accusations that Fox and others did. In fact, Fox and the others hid exculpatory information, such as video of Epps trying to calm down the protesters and helping bring an injured person to safety before any of the violence against police started.

There's a real difference between right-wing media and real information sources.

People that were there with him on that day were calling him a fed for a reason. He was specifically, and repeatedly, calling for people to break into the Capitol. Then he was left to walk, while people that were basically just in the vicinity were charged for much less than his specific calls of incitement. It's not unreasonable to assume something fishy here, and the government's position of denying everything, even in congressional hearings, didn't do anything to dispel it.

 

[Davin]

People that were there with him on that day were calling him a fed for a reason. He was specifically, and repeatedly, calling for people to break into the Capitol. Then he was left to walk, while people that were basically just in the vicinity were charged for much less than his specific calls of incitement. It's not unreasonable to assume something fishy here, and the government's position of denying everything, even in congressional hearings, didn't do anything to dispel it.

Yeah the reason could NEVER be that people want to use him as a scapegoat for their own criminal trespass right?

 

[Fishking]

Yeah the reason could NEVER be that people want to use him as a scapegoat for their own criminal trespass right?

That statement has nothing to do with him getting a pass and not being charged, nor does it excuse other people from their own actions. You made up shit that has nothing to do with what I said.

 

[Davin]

That statement has nothing to do with him getting a pass and not being charged, nor does it excuse other people from their own actions. You made up shit that has nothing to do with what I said.

He's getting a pass huh? Your comments are nothing but a shill and proves you lied and your comments are nothing more than partisan hackery.

Ray Epps To Be Criminally Charged For Events On January 6, His Attorney Says

An attorney for Ray Epps, a man seen on video wearing a Trump hat during the January 6 riot, says that his client has been informed by federal law ...

www.allsides.com

 

[Ambig]

People that were there with him on that day were calling him a fed for a reason. He was specifically, and repeatedly, calling for people to break into the Capitol. Then he was left to walk, while people that were basically just in the vicinity were charged for much less than his specific calls of incitement. It's not unreasonable to assume something fishy here, and the government's position of denying everything, even in congressional hearings, didn't do anything to dispel it.

Seriously? You think Donald Trump used his presidential power to corrupt the FBI, making them send in one of their secret agents to help instigate his insurrection?

I wouldn't put it past him, but where is the evidence?

 

[Winston]

I totally disregardrd this Ray Epps story because when it was going on I just thought it was irrelevant right wing lies, looks like I was right

 

[watsup]

People that were there with him on that day were calling him a fed for a reason. He was specifically, and repeatedly, calling for people to break into the Capitol. Then he was left to walk, while people that were basically just in the vicinity were charged for much less than his specific calls of incitement. It's not unreasonable to assume something fishy here, and the government's position of denying everything, even in congressional hearings, didn't do anything to dispel it.

He has explained all this. Look it up.

 

[Threegoofs]

People that were there with him on that day were calling him a fed for a reason. He was specifically, and repeatedly, calling for people to break into the Capitol. Then he was left to walk, while people that were basically just in the vicinity were charged for much less than his specific calls of incitement. It's not unreasonable to assume something fishy here, and the government's position of denying everything, even in congressional hearings, didn't do anything to dispel it.

Sounds like you think that people who invited Jan 6 should be charged and legally held to account.

 

[Callen]

People that were there with him on that day were calling him a fed for a reason. He was specifically, and repeatedly, calling for people to break into the Capitol. Then he was left to walk, while people that were basically just in the vicinity were charged for much less than his specific calls of incitement. It's not unreasonable to assume something fishy here, and the government's position of denying everything, even in congressional hearings, didn't do anything to dispel it.

That is untrue. The only people charged either harmed a law enforcement officer, destroyed property or entered the Capitol building. Epps did none of those things. Name one person who was charged for yelling stupid things.

 

[Mycroft]

The theory that Ray Epps was an FBI informant stoking the mob was covered widely by the likes of Joe Rogan, the Breaking Points Podcast, the Daily Wire, and more. This theory was brought up over twenty times on Tucker Carlson’s show alone, not to mention elsewhere on Fox.

Now, thanks to the January 6th investigations and the work of actual journalists, we know that all of their hypotheses were completely wrong. Ray Epps was just an idiot shouting stupid shit in a sea of idiots shouting stupid shit on January 6th.

There was never any actual proof of this accusation. Accordingly, responsible news outlets never promoted the accusations that Fox and others did. In fact, Fox and the others hid exculpatory information, such as video of Epps trying to calm down the protesters and helping bring an injured person to safety before any of the violence against police started.

There's a real difference between right-wing media and real information sources.

If all this were true, then why did the DOJ, in March, tell him they were "seeking to bring him up on charges? It seems they thought they had something to charge him with. And, why did they wait more than two years to tell him this? Also, why HAVEN'T they brought charges against him for the last four months?

These question fly in the face of those claims you've made.

I think you need to do some logical and deductive thinking about this issue.

 

[Davin]

If all this were true, then why did the DOJ, in March, tell him they were "seeking to bring him up on charges? It seems they thought they had something to charge him with. And, why did they wait more than two years to tell him this? Also, why HAVEN'T they brought charges against him for the last four months?

These question fly in the face of those claims you've made.

I think you need to do some logical and deductive thinking about this issue.

More conspiracy nonsense. Trump supporters are known liars and supporters of criminal activity as evidence over the last 3 years.

 

[trouble13]

The theory that Ray Epps was an FBI informant stoking the mob was covered widely by the likes of Joe Rogan, the Breaking Points Podcast, the Daily Wire, and more. This theory was brought up over twenty times on Tucker Carlson’s show alone, not to mention elsewhere on Fox.

Now, thanks to the January 6th investigations and the work of actual journalists, we know that all of their hypotheses were completely wrong. Ray Epps was just an idiot shouting stupid shit in a sea of idiots shouting stupid shit on January 6th.

There was never any actual proof of this accusation. Accordingly, responsible news outlets never promoted the accusations that Fox and others did. In fact, Fox and the others hid exculpatory information, such as video of Epps trying to calm down the protesters and helping bring an injured person to safety before any of the violence against police started.

There's a real difference between right-wing media and real information sources.

What is your theory on why he wasn't charged?

 

[Fishking]

He's getting a pass huh? Your comments are nothing but a shill and proves you lied and your comments are nothing more than partisan hackery.

Ray Epps To Be Criminally Charged For Events On January 6, His Attorney Says

An attorney for Ray Epps, a man seen on video wearing a Trump hat during the January 6 riot, says that his client has been informed by federal law ...

www.allsides.com

Yeah...he got a pass for years. Nothing happened until the obvious overlooking of him by the DOJ, when they went after people for lesser crimes, wasn't able to be ignored. Why the hell do you think it's a story again?

 

[Fishking]

Seriously? You think Donald Trump used his presidential power to corrupt the FBI, making them send in one of their secret agents to help instigate his insurrection?

I wouldn't put it past him, but where is the evidence?

I don't know how you pulled that entirely made up assertion from what I posted. Quite imaginative.

 

[Fishking]

Sounds like you think that people who invited Jan 6 should be charged and legally held to account.

That's literally the point. He wasn't charged for years, while others had the hammer brought down on them for less.

 

[Fishking]

He has explained all this. Look it up.

Lol...there's nothing to explain about him getting a pass for direct incitement.

 

[soap box]

If all this were true, then why did the DOJ, in March, tell him they were "seeking to bring him up on charges? It seems they thought they had something to charge him with. And, why did they wait more than two years to tell him this? Also, why HAVEN'T they brought charges against him for the last four months?

These question fly in the face of those claims you've made.

I think you need to do some logical and deductive thinking about this issue.

If all that were true, then why would the FBI want a riot on J 6?

Did they remove him from the most wanted list before or after they interrogated him?

 

[lwf]

Yeah...he got a pass for years. Nothing happened until the obvious overlooking of him by the DOJ, when they went after people for lesser crimes, wasn't able to be ignored. Why the hell do you think it's a story again?

They are still charging other people too for the insurrection. More charges are expected into 2024. Why did those people get a pass for years?

 

[Callen]

What is your theory on why he wasn't charged?

He did not harm a law enforcement person, he did not destroy property, he did not enter the Capitol building. Name one other person who was charged that did none of those things. It's funny how the right has decided that his exercising his first amendment right to say really stupid things is a crime.

 

[Fishking]

That is untrue. The only people charged either harmed a law enforcement officer, destroyed property or entered the Capitol building. Epps did none of those things. Name one person who was charged for yelling stupid things.

People were most definitely charged for just being there and walking in when police were letting it happen.

Judge issues the first outright acquittal of a defendant charged over the Jan. 6 riot

A federal judge on Wednesday acquitted a New Mexico man of misdemeanor charges that he illegally entered the U.S. Capitol and engaged in disorderly conduct during last year's riot.

www.npr.org

 

[Fishking]

They are still charging other people too for the insurrection. More charges are expected into 2024. Why did those people get a pass for years?

If you have evidence that they looked at other people and then cut them loose, present it.

 

[Davin]

Yeah...he got a pass for years. Nothing happened until the obvious overlooking of him by the DOJ, when they went after people for lesser crimes, wasn't able to be ignored. Why the hell do you think it's a story again?

So your claim is false again as they had to gatyher evidence and over the years they got it through tesitmony of the 1/6 group. You lied. Pathetic but then you Trump supporters have proven you just continue to lie about the situation. The only way for a Trump supporter to Make America Great Again is by dying, being deported or jailed.