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If our laws and due process arent' meant for the worst of us, they won't protect any of us.If this is a drug boat, I don't hate what happened. However, I don't trust this admin to tell the truth.
Your feelings on the subject of our laws and due process are interesting but not applicable.I'm of the mind that 'OUR' laws apply to our citizens or those who are here legally.
I don't believe trafficking drugs carries a death sentence, and these people got no due process and were not engaging US forces. Given the sideshow we've seen in immigration cases and how badly this administration has been botching things up, there is no way I trust it to carry these kind of attacks unilaterally.If this is a drug boat, I don't hate what happened. However, I don't trust this admin to tell the truth.
They are to me.Your feelings on the subject of our laws and due process are interesting but not applicable.
Ok, which should make this attack even worse because it's not in the US nor its territorial waters, nor are the people on the boat US citizens.I'm of the mind that 'OUR' laws apply to our citizens or those who are here legally.
Right, but you're not well educated in our laws otherwise you'd know what you believe is a philosophy, but not applicable. Unless you'd like to make a case against reams of case law?They are to me.
Depends, imo.I don't believe trafficking drugs carries a death sentence.
Very true. Which is why I don't believe anything this admin says.and these people got no due process and were not engaging US forces. Given the sideshow we've seen in immigration cases and how badly this administration has been botching things up, there is no way I trust it to carry these kind of attacks unilaterally.
Don't get pissy because I said something on another thread. I'm absolutely have a right to an opinion and I expressed it and what I believe the law should be. I didn't say it was that way.Right, but you're not well educated in our laws otherwise you'd know what you believe is a philosophy, but not applicable. Unless you'd like to make a case against reams of case law?
You said you felt it was applicable, feel free to explain that. No, your'e not educated on our laws or due process. Clearly.Don't get pissy because I said something on another thread. I'm absolutely have a right to an opinion and I expressed it and what I believe the law should be. I didn't say it was that way.
You don't like it, move on. You don't need to tell me I'm not well educated on something. What's your cred? Are you a law scholar or lawyer?
You said you felt it was applicable, feel free to explain that. No, your'e not educated on our laws or due process. Clearly.
Indeed, and it's based on past offenses etc. but we have no idea who any of these people were nor did they get any kind of due process. I don't think any government targeting people this way is a smart approach.Depends, imo.
Very true. Which is why I don't believe anything this admin says.
And what Rand Paul is saying is how do any of us know who they truly were and if the boat was right off our Coast we would arrest them and not blow them up.It was a fast boat of the type used by smugglers / they had intercepts of it leaving. This happens hundreds of times a week
Except this one will not drug run again
Do you wonder how an open boat filled with so called drugs and 11 people is going to go all the way from Venezuela to the US without refueling and going through hurricane season on both coasts? I find it hard to believe that this is what the trump administration says it was.If this is a drug boat, I don't hate what happened. However, I don't trust this admin to tell the truth.
MAGA - "The car he drove was the kind used by drug dealers. Feds blew up his car, so no more dealing drugs."It was a fast boat of the type used by smugglers / they had intercepts of it leaving. This happens hundreds of times a week
Except this one will not drug run again
Just as I say about democrats. Trump Russian Collusion was a fabrication and based on that and the lies to the FISA court and other things, I never believe anything the democrats are saying. Democrats love the phrase, "your Truth". That's just an invitation to tell a lie. No such thing as "your truth"! There is just "the truth"!!!!!!!!!!If this is a drug boat, I don't hate what happened. However, I don't trust this admin to tell the truth.
I'm not sure how I feel about the US essentially killing people like this.
When Obama did it in Yemen, I had mixed feelings. A leader of ISSIS operating in Yemen is a threat to the US and our allies. These terrorists operate in these areas and manage stuff in other countries. It's a tough situation to deal with, but even those killings I was on the fence about.
Drug dealers is not the same as a ISSIS leader. I don't even trust this administration to get anything right. Remember when we obliterated Iran nuclear facilities but in reality, it set them back a couple of months? We bombed another country for almost zero strategic gain.
Oh wow, a boat left from shore?It was a fast boat of the type used by smugglers / they had intercepts of it leaving. This happens hundreds of times a week
Except this one will not drug run again
So are you claiming the above dialogue actually occurred or did you make it up?MAGA - "The car he drove was the kind used by drug dealers. Feds blew up his car, so no more dealing drugs."
Not MAGA - "Do you have proof that this person was a drug dealer?"
MAGA - "Yeah, by the type of car he drove."
That was Biden's signature strike after the Afghan pulloutMAGA - "The car he drove was the kind used by drug dealers. Feds blew up his car, so no more dealing drugs."
Not MAGA - "Do you have proof that this person was a drug dealer?"
MAGA - "Yeah, by the type of car he drove."
There has been no verifiable proof, except "the boat has 4 motors, which drug runners typically use".So are you claiming the above dialogue actually occurred or did you make it up?
Do you have proof that the target was not verified?
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