Rand Paul plans to keep pushing to defund U.S. Planned Parenthood

[iguanaman]

A private institution that can't support itself has no valid reason to exist.

Why am I not surprised that you would say there is no valid reason for women to have health care?

 

[Henrin]

Why am I not surprised that you would say there is no valid reason for women to have health care?

Maybe you should stop lying about what I said.

 

[Fletch]

There is no Federal money used for abortions at PP and you know it. You can't stop women from wanting to end a pregnancy either. This is simply your way of showing hatred for women for having the right to control their own bodies.

LOL hatred of women. You liberals are just completely incapable of honest discussion of virtually every issue. If I disagree with you its not because we have an honest difference of opinion. No, its because I hate women. The sad part is that you probably actually believe that. So the only question that remains is whether your position is based upon stupidity or intellectual laziness and dishonesty. But only you can answer that. But I don't expect an honest reply to that question either.

 

[iguanaman]

LOL hatred of women. You liberals are just completely incapable of honest discussion of virtually every issue. If I disagree with you its not because we have an honest difference of opinion. No, its because I hate women. The sad part is that you probably actually believe that. So the only question that remains is whether your position is based upon stupidity or intellectual laziness and dishonesty. But only you can answer that. But I don't expect an honest reply to that question either.

I really could care less what your reasoning is. The results tell the story and if you don't hate women you have a funny way of showing them you don't.

 

[Fletch]

I really could care less what your reasoning is. The results tell the story and if you don't hate women you have a funny way of showing them you don't.

Of course you don't care. Liberals never care about the truth. Not caring what the reasoning is demonstrates two things 1) a lack of intellectual curiosity, and 2) an inability to discuss an issue rationally. You cant defend your position intelligently so you smear anyone who disagrees. Were I to engage in the same style of 'reasoning' I would argue that your stance on abortion and PP exists because you hate children. That is one of the difficulties in arguing with liberals--you have to not only fight their moronic beliefs, but the childish way in which they defend them.

 

[WCH]

Since PP founder and president, Margret Sanger's original intent was weeding out of the "unfit" and the "inferior races," and campaigning vigorously for sterilization, infanticide and abortion, in the name of "race betterment" under the guise of "family planning", none of this recent controversy is surprising.

Off with their heads.

Margaret Sanger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Entity=SangerM

 

[WCH]

LOL hatred of women. You liberals are just completely incapable of honest discussion of virtually every issue. If I disagree with you its not because we have an honest difference of opinion. No, its because I hate women. The sad part is that you probably actually believe that. So the only question that remains is whether your position is based upon stupidity or intellectual laziness and dishonesty. But only you can answer that. But I don't expect an honest reply to that question either.

I was accused of the same yesterday. Topical Leftist political propaganda.

 

[phattonez]

I really could care less what your reasoning is. The results tell the story and if you don't hate women you have a funny way of showing them you don't.

This is simply lazy argumentation. You don't have a real response and you just accuse him of hate. That ought not fly in mature discussions.

 

[iguanaman]

What do you call cutting up a female fetus and delivering its organs in exchange for money?

It is called research material and it is not anything like a living breathing women. The fact that you equate the 2 is disgusting. You would rather the material is thrown in the trash as the waste? You'd think you would at least want them to be of some use considering how "special" you believe these particular clumps of cells are. They are no more a human than your nose hair is a human.

 

[Henrin]

It is called research material and it is not anything like a living breathing women. The fact that you equate the 2 is disgusting. You would rather the material is thrown in the trash as the waste? You'd think you would at least want them to be of some use considering how "special" you believe these particular clumps of cells are. They are no more a human than your nose hair is a human.

That fact that you can't grasp that it is because I think they are human that I don't want them cut up and used for parts after being killed is telling.

 

[nota bene]

Emphasis on the word "used."

 

[Μολὼν λαβέ]

It is called research material and it is not anything like a living breathing women. The fact that you equate the 2 is disgusting. You would rather the material is thrown in the trash as the waste? You'd think you would at least want them to be of some use considering how "special" you believe these particular clumps of cells are. They are no more a human than your nose hair is a human.

This is a truly disturbing mindset typical of the left.

 

[iguanaman]

That fact that you can't grasp that it is because I think they are human that I don't want them cut up and used for parts after being killed is telling.

So you are against the use of parts of dead people too? What is your reason for that? What is so special about a dead person that his organs cannot be used to help the living?

 

[iguanaman]

This is a truly disturbing mindset typical of the left.

What is disturbing is those that believe that some "holy spirit" exists in a clump of cells that makes them human when they have no functioning brain. Human are not significantly different from any other mammal embryo in early pregnancy.

 

[Henrin]

So you are against the use of parts of dead people too? What is your reason for that? What is so special about a dead person that his organs cannot by used to help the living?

Personally I'm against using the parts of the dead to help the living as I feel it just makes the dead a resource that is less than human. If however people consent to being used in such a fashion then I suppose I won't step in the middle of it. This situation however is different than someone consenting to have their body used in such a way after they die. This situation involves a woman hiring another party to kill and harvest the organs of her unborn child. I do no approve of killers or people that hiring to have someone killed doing any such thing. If the party in question can not consent to having their organs harvested then in my mind the transaction has no valid reason to occur.

 

[Μολὼν λαβέ]

What is disturbing is those that believe that some "holy spirit" exists in a clump of cells that makes them human when they have no functioning brain. Human are not significantly different from any other mammal embryo in early pregnancy.

Except as you stated, they ARE human. Those "clump of cells" contain DNA that makes them human, not anything else.

Its interesting how you made up that "holy spirit" thing.

 

[iguanaman]

Except as you stated, they ARE human. Those "clump of cells" contain DNA that makes them human, not anything else.

Its interesting how you made up that "holy spirit" thing.

So you don't believe in the holy spirit? Don't lie now. As far as DNA, your fingernail clippings have it too. Does that make them human beings too?

 

[Μολὼν λαβέ]

So you don't believe in the holy spirit? Don't lie now. As far as DNA, your fingernail clippings have it too. Does that make them human beings too?

Those aborted are human and at ten weeks they begin to develop finger nails.

My beliefs have nothing to do with an inane comment about the holy spirit being in a clump of cells.