FinnMacCool
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FinnMacCool said:OK this might offend some people but I'm trying my best not to generalize all that support Bush. I am finding that a good number of people who are for Bush are very racist. Sometimes when I debate with people in certain chatgroups and even video games, these people who are pro-bush will make some stupid racial comment that is mostly unintelligable. My Uncle and his family are very conservative and all very prejudiced. My mother still keeps in touch with them though my Dad refuses to ever talk to them. I go over there as little as possible. Everytime I do, they say so much stupid ****, making jokes about "milk duds" and ranting about "scum that washed up on our shores." and of course they are avid fans of Bush and also I am their direct opposite politically and I often can't help but debate with them about politics. I usually get my points across but, alas, I'm outnumbered. So anyways, I'm wondering why is this? Do you think that its just their close minded attitude or something else?
MiamiFlorida said:Let's talk about the racist Democrats....shall we?
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44019
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Farah said:His website advocates the killing of Arab Muslims and Christians and the unconditional support for Israel. His articles also include criticisms of Roman Catholics and Anglicans.
Joseph Farah has often advocated the killing of Muslims and Asians and the invasion of Asian countries, including Nuclear attack on Asian Cities. His controversial articles appear on his G2 Bulletin newsletter. Farah also an evangelical Christian, also has given extensive financial support to groups that bring to light persecution of Christians in Asian countries. This is sometimes contrary to the call he makes for the Nuclear destruction of Asian cities that also contain christian populations. Most recent articles have been attacks on Cindy Sheehan, Anti-war Protestor and notably Hillary Clinton. He also calls for the destruction of Mecca and Medina, and advocates for Nazi Concentration camps to kill Muslims in America
Arch Enemy said:Hahah look who brought good ole Joseph Farah into this conversation. He doesn't hold any value, for he himself is a racist...
Your source is hereby null of any importance.
Connecticutter said:I voted for Bush, and I think the people that you describe need to learn how to be more respectful. However, just because you can point to people who happened to be racist and support Bush, it doesn't prove that any of Bush's actual policies are wrong. I've found plenty of liberals with racist attitudes.
Bush has been distancing himself from this kind of attitude. He makes it clear that he respects Islam and Muslims while prosecuting the war of terror. He's supported initiatives to allow more Mexicans to work in the US. He supports school choice which could end up putting more low-income minority families into mostly-white schools that fare better. Ask your family how they forgive Bush for doing these things given their attitude.
KevinWan said:I think Bush understand what hes doing on this issue also... and I think he learned from his father. Didn't the '92 Republican Convention that re-nominated George HW Bush get a little on the racist side? If I recall correctly there was gay/black bashing??? Or something along those lines...
However, I am also a Bush supporter, but I do see alot of Conservatives (not necessarily Republicans though...) who can be a bit racist. My father, grandparents, and some aunt and uncles. I just think they see the whole tolerance thing as sort of "nit-picky." Its all too complicated, and I think the racism can be contribute to them despising political correctiveness.... But, perhaps I'm wrong..
FinnMacCool said:OK this might offend some people but I'm trying my best not to generalize all that support Bush. I am finding that a good number of people who are for Bush are very racist. Sometimes when I debate with people in certain chatgroups and even video games, these people who are pro-bush will make some stupid racial comment that is mostly unintelligable. My Uncle and his family are very conservative and all very prejudiced. My mother still keeps in touch with them though my Dad refuses to ever talk to them. I go over there as little as possible. Everytime I do, they say so much stupid ****, making jokes about "milk duds" and ranting about "scum that washed up on our shores." and of course they are avid fans of Bush and also I am their direct opposite politically and I often can't help but debate with them about politics. I usually get my points across but, alas, I'm outnumbered. So anyways, I'm wondering why is this? Do you think that its just their close minded attitude or something else?
You want us to accept your source as creditable when in the very same article he wrote:MiamiFlorida said:Let's talk about the racist Democrats....shall we?
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44019
Now I don't happen to believe Neanderthals ever existed.
26 X World Champs said:You want us to accept your source as creditable when in the very same article he wrote:
Stupid Article by a Racist said:When Senate Democrats successfully blocked three of President Bush's nominees for federal appeals-court judgeships in a 40-hour debate initiated by Republicans, Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., told reporters that he would continue to oppose any "Neanderthal that is nominated by the president for any federal court."
Kennedy had demonstrated his utter contempt for women in the past – for instance, by leaving a drowning woman and the scene of an accident. But it seems to me Kennedy was speaking in racist code language here. Could "Neanderthal" be the new "N" word he and his colleagues use to discuss minorities who are disloyal to their Democratic Party patrons and others who leave the "progressive plantation
In one communication to Sen. Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, Estrada was singled out as "especially dangerous" because "he is Latino."
Arch Enemy said:Ok, so Edward Kennedy thinks less of these 3 nominees... doesn't mean they're racist. If I call someone a "Neanderthal", no matter what the race is, it's not considered racist.. it'd be like me calling James Brown a "hobbit", I'd probably get the "Frown" but it's not being racist.
Uhh.. Being sexist is totally different from being racist. Yes it's a bad thing, but it doesn't have anything to do with the topic of that article.
Neanderthal, the new "N" word? Hahah! There's no evidence that shows that Neanderthals were of colored. Calling someone a Neanderthal might hurt their self-esteem but it doesn't show any kind of racism.. hell, I'd love to be called a Neanderthal.
Notice the "TO", that means Sen. Durbin didn't say that Estrada was especially dangerous because he's latino. It means the DURBIN RECIEVED a memo saying that, from someone else..
So we're calling the Democratic Party as "racist" because of ONE PERSON and a MEMO? I don't have a soft-spot for the Democratic party, but that doesn't mean they're racist people.
Let us not forget that Bush doesn't speak in-front of the NAACP during his campaigns.. they somehow get over schedueled.
Arch Enemy said:But you shouldn't run from where you lack the support, you should go there to show them "you'll do whatever you can to win their support". Remember you don't achieve ANYTHING unless you meet some misfortunes.
MiamiFlorida said:Let's talk about the racist Democrats....shall we?
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44019
galenrox said:I think it's a mistaken coorilation, I think it's less that most Bush supporters are racist, and moreso most white racists support Bush.
Then again non-white racists don't have too much to support here.
AlbqOwl said:Just for the sake of debate (I know I'm gonna get egged here):
Speaking in the most general terms, white racist groups do tend to be more Republican or Libertarian and are generally condemned or disavowed by both groups. Certainly their support is not curried by GOP candidates or featured in campaigns.
Speaking in the most general terms, black racist groups tend to support Democrats and are rarely criticized, much less ignored or condemned.
I wonder which is more harmful? The racism that is overt, blatant, out there in the open for all to see? Or the racism that is wrapped in social welfare programs, victimization, and condescension all for the sake of generating voting blocks?
Keepstar1331 said:Thats probably in the top ten stupidest thing I've ever read.
As for the NAACP, there as almost as racist as the KKK. Try being white and signing up or getting information from one of their booths. they basically treat you like pond scum. Not to mention going to high school and dealing with African American students who seem to want to take years of oppression out on me... sorry mates, i don't owe you s***.
Both sides are racist. Not everyone from those sides, but some are. The difference is how forward they are about it.
Keepstar1331 said:Thats probably in the top ten stupidest thing I've ever read.
As for the NAACP, there as almost as racist as the KKK. Try being white and signing up or getting information from one of their booths. they basically treat you like pond scum. Not to mention going to high school and dealing with African American students who seem to want to take years of oppression out on me... sorry mates, i don't owe you s***.
Both sides are racist. Not everyone from those sides, but some are. The difference is how forward they are about it.
MiamiFlorida said:Well, I can't answer for the person who wrote the piece because frankly I don't know who he is.
But having said that...... exactly.....what is it about that piece that qualifies it as one of the "ten stupidest" things you've ever read?
Arch Enemy said:I believe Hypocritical pieces as such should be considered in the "top 10 stupidest" articles. It's like Hitler writing an article about "Why we shouldn't hate the Jewish Community" or Stalin writing "Why we should abolish Labor Camps".. it's pretty pathetic and stupid.. that's just my opinion.
Keepstar1331 said:I had made a friend with someone who was in a gang. I had started out by just tutoring him, but he was a really nice guy so we started hanging out. then somehow i got drug into this whole gang battle going on. My friend actually got punched once in the hallway just for sticking up for this kid to a member of another gang (right before the school cop got a knife pulled on him). Not to mention the fact that everyday at lunch i had to deal with the same group of African American girls who would push me aside and walk to the front of the lunch line, then threaten to beat me up if i said anything back. Sorry i like the way my face looks right now... I would not consider myself racist, one of my mentors in life was a African American teacher, but some of the stereotypes are true.
As for the article? His facts were just off. That was not racism but sexism. There were Neanderthals, unless years of biology have been wasted on me. And not that i adore durbin at all, but he impled he had written that note. Which he hadn't. I'm sure politcs get lots of racist/sexist/politically incorrect notes. That has nothing to do with his own views. I'm sure there were alternative motives for voting down those candidates.
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