'Race' riots hit Spain now. (That goes with Britain, France, Greece, Holland... etc.)

[Republic_Of_Public]

Some people just don't know how to behave in other peoples' houses:

SPAIN: Muslim immigration brings riots in the streets « Bare Naked Islam's Weblog



I could go on and list all the other examples of the likes of Morroccan Muslim immigrants going on a bender of burning destruction and hate, but we all know the drill by now.

Though lest I be accused of thinking it's always just about Muslims to my mind, let me ask are they doing it because they're Islamic or doing it because they're criminal scum?!

 

[PeteEU]

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LOL one protest of 100 people in one town in Catalonia is suddenly a riots all over Spain? Have not even heard about this "riot". Had heard about a bunch of immigrants protesting the injury to a fellow immigrant who was running from the police... but how can that be a "race" riot suddenly?

Have you even read why the protests started?

 

[William Rea]

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Aside from the usual array of batcrazy anti-Islam sites I could only find one article referring to this but it is in Spanish which I do not speak at all well.

From the "Diary of Girona" newspaper....

Un centenar de joves cremen contenidors i bolquen motos protestant contra la policia - Diari de Girona

Are you able to translate Pete EU?

 

[Republic_Of_Public]

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Week of violent riots in Salt, as found in the BNI post:

¿Qué buscas?

Google Translate

And I never said it was all over Spain.

Had heard about a bunch of immigrants protesting the injury to a fellow immigrant who was running from the police...

Ah, so my question is answered: it's because they're criminal vermin. As in France, the police chase a criminal - so obviously the place has to get burned down by savages in revenge. Anarchists call that social justice.

Are you able to translate Pete EU?

And if good European Pete's away, Google Translate saves the day:

Google Translate


The best effort it made at translation (under Spanish) was the headline:

One hundred cremated joves Contenidors i blockaded protestant against police motorcycles

Nice.

 

[Manc Skipper]

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So where were the Muslims at this protestant blockade?

 

[PeteEU]

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Aside from the usual array of batcrazy anti-Islam sites I could only find one article referring to this but it is in Spanish which I do not speak at all well.

From the "Diary of Girona" newspaper....

Un centenar de joves cremen contenidors i bolquen motos protestant contra la policia - Diari de Girona

Are you able to translate Pete EU?

There was a kid, a know trouble maker and thief, who ran when police wanted to arrest him yet again and during the chase he got seriously injured. The immigrant population of course blame the police for these injuries and protested against the police.. not a wise move, especially when there are more trouble makers among the protesters. Most of the "rioters" were children for **** sake.... aged 9 to 15 years old.

Is it racial? I dont deny that the Spanish police (like all other police) tend to look extra at people from certain areas of the planet, but fact is the kid injured was a known convicted criminal. Do these kids feel marginalised? Sure, but then again.. go back to where they came from if you dont like it in Spain. If you break the law in Spain or any where else, then be prepared to suffer the consequences.. I would wager that even RoP would agree with that.

It is ironic how RoP does not mention a very similar situation in Greece.. a 15 year old gets killed fleeing the police and there are much more violent protests and riots. Why no mention of that RoP? Oh yea, the kid was a Christian and the rioters were also Christians.

Face it RoP, this has NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with religion!

 

[Republic_Of_Public]

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It's a bit disingenuous (though I believe unknowingly) to talk about Greek riots without common factors through them. They can be encouraged by anarchists to go nuts at the drop of a hat and have even been known to riot over a LANDFILL SITE the other year!

Anarchists' fury fuels Greek riots - CSMonitor.com


And to be fair, I did close the OP with a open question. However, the Salt riot, with burned out buildings and battered riot cops standing in testimony, had a common thread insofar as it's yet another case of young Muslim immigrants causing violent trouble and getting Liberals in a spin. And I went no further than that.

I would wager that even RoP would agree with that.

I do. Deal with them as any other vicious ne'er-do-well. (A pat on the head, comfy beds in a place OAPs would find superior to their places and an Ipod, if it's like here!)

 

[Manc Skipper]

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Deal with them as any other vicious ne'er-do-well. (A pat on the head, comfy beds in a place OAPs would find superior to their places and an Ipod, if it's like here!)

It would seem that the delusions extend to the British criminal justice system too.

 

[Republic_Of_Public]

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Hmm, let's see....

Bosses and politicians praise new scandal-hit Scottish jail | The Sun |Home Scotland|Scottish News

The pampered cons at the £65million complex in West Lothian enjoy en-suite showers, computers, flat-screen TVs and extra visits from relatives.

fishing in prison

Fury as killers munch through the credit crunch in prison | The Sun |News

Hell in the cells? Not for today’s spoilt lags - mirror.co.uk

27,000 new TV sets have been bought for prisoners | The Sun |News

Lags at Addiewell Prison steal mice to charge their mobile phones - The Daily Record

Midland prisoners get better Christmas Menu than brave British soldiers - Sunday Mercury

Inmate boasts of 'luxury' life in prison - Telegraph

You MUST respect the rapists, muggers and burglars for their self-esteem: MPs to look at why prison guards must call inmates 'Mr' - Telegraph

Jon Venables' 'luxury' prison cell - complete with widescreen TV, video games and a gym | Mail Online

Exclusive: Cons rioted at luxury jail over shortage of Mars bars - The Daily Record

Turkey with all the trimmings for jailbirds - Sunday Sun

Wakefield Prison: Inmates set to receive luxury festive feast - General Discussion - Digital Spy Forums , etc.

I could go on.


Leftards often turn to the disgusted Public and talk to them about how these poor malevolent vermin 'have to sleep three or four to a cell and not have much freedom and watch little telly and not see their mates and feel very alienated and live inside a pressure cooker', and all the rest of the feeble emotional blackmail.

But even then that's due to luck, as budgets are shorter and other existing jails are stuffed. Misleading Lefties bitch that it's because we're jailing too many criminals but it's actually because Labour REFUSED to build more jails to reflect the ballooning population. (And there's no such thing as too many criminals locked up!)



Anyway, the Left would doubtless want to follow the Guatamalan experience, for all the watering-down they've done: Prisoners' luxury jail recaptured | Metro.co.uk




...BUT SOD THE VICTIMS HOWEVER:

Pensioner taken to court for putting up fence to keep out vandals | Mail Online

 

[Manc Skipper]

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Show where "a pat on the head and a comfy bed" feature in sentencing.

Sentencing: an overview : Directgov - Crime and justice

 

[Republic_Of_Public]

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Only Lefties, Liberals and other Establishment fools are truly oblivious to how more vermin are given pats on the head. More and more receive sentences which are non-punishments or far too watered down.

Indeed, there are cases where the criminals are called victims and vice-versa:


United Against Yobs

Don't call them 'hoodie scum', police tell victim who complained about yobs | Mail Online

Myleene Klass warned after brandishing knife to deter intruders | UK news | guardian.co.uk

Brave grandma arrested after standing up to yobs | Mail Online

Father arrested for carrying out citizen's arrest on yobs 'who threw apples at him and his wife' | Mail Online

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/...rrest-on-yob-who-pelted-his-home-with-eggs.do

Woman arrested for swearing at yobs - Telegraph , etc.

 

[Republic_Of_Public]

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CRAP SENTENCES AND ABORTED PUNISHMENTS:



OH YOU CRETINOUS BE-WIGGED AND BE-ROBED TURDS: Judges told: Spare violent thugs jail | The Sun |News

UK VIOLENT THUGS MUST NOT BE SENT TO JAIL, SAY TOP JUDGES « factstoknow.co.uk

FAT TORY C-WORD: U-turn on election promise to jail knife thugs | Mail Online



4 out of 5 knife yobs avoid jail | The Sun |News

Courts urged to avoid jail for Asbo breaches | UK news | The Guardian

Jail's the wrong place for burglars, say our new justice minister | Mail Online

Drunken yob who threatened to burn down Eccles mosque avoids jail - Manchester Evening News

Yob's Facebook boasts after he avoids jail - Portsmouth Today

Thugs who tortured an autistic boy escape jail - mirror.co.uk

ILFORD: Thugs who intimidated sisters escape jail (From East London and West Essex Guardian Series)

Four in five carrying a knife still avoid jail despite Brown's tough on crime pledge | Mail Online



And so it goes on.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

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CRAP SENTENCES AND ABORTED PUNISHMENTS:



OH YOU CRETINOUS BE-WIGGED AND BE-ROBED TURDS: Judges told: Spare violent thugs jail | The Sun |News

UK VIOLENT THUGS MUST NOT BE SENT TO JAIL, SAY TOP JUDGES « factstoknow.co.uk

FAT TORY C-WORD: U-turn on election promise to jail knife thugs | Mail Online



4 out of 5 knife yobs avoid jail | The Sun |News

Courts urged to avoid jail for Asbo breaches | UK news | The Guardian

Jail's the wrong place for burglars, say our new justice minister | Mail Online

Drunken yob who threatened to burn down Eccles mosque avoids jail - Manchester Evening News

Yob's Facebook boasts after he avoids jail - Portsmouth Today

Thugs who tortured an autistic boy escape jail - mirror.co.uk

ILFORD: Thugs who intimidated sisters escape jail (From East London and West Essex Guardian Series)

Four in five carrying a knife still avoid jail despite Brown's tough on crime pledge | Mail Online



And so it goes on.

Did we ever find out about the muslims having riots all over Spain and how it's hitting Britain, France Greece etc as postulated in the OP?

 

[Republic_Of_Public]

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It can't be denied that there have indeed been bursts of violent and riotous mayhem from Muslim immigrants. Or, if you like, immigrants who are Muslim too. And these have been the largest single group of people causing such troubles, as far as I can gather. Morroccan Muslims seem to be amongst the most seething and destructive.

Could put it this way - seeing as it's not really honest to claim any evil nationalities (not even the Germans), you can't blame it being Morroccan in itself. But you can look at culture. Anything shared?

Islam doesn't help when it's not the prime motovation.

 

[Wiseone]

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CRAP SENTENCES AND ABORTED PUNISHMENTS:



Drunken yob who threatened to burn down Eccles mosque avoids jail - Manchester Evening News

So you hate yobs more than Muslims? I'm really curious how you made a decision to hate the Yob instead

 

[Mr. Invisible]

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The city of Salt=/= the entirety of France. Also this source obviously has ulterior motives, seeing as how you've bought it up last time.

 

[Republic_Of_Public]

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A couple of glaring things.

I'm really curious how you made a decision to hate the Yob instead

Let's break it down for the Left and hard of understanding: I hate yobs. I despise Islam and resent Islamists. I don't know if my opposition can only concentrate in absolutes on one thing at a time, but I can temper my outlooks on various things perfectly well.

The city of Salt=/= the entirety of France.

Disingenuously incoherent. Gotta be nimble with my opposition! (Or at least not as tired.)

And Bare Naked Islam never claimed to be an impartial news portal, though it always links to a regular news article inside, for people to make up their own minds and provide proof of the latest in a long line of lunacies.

 

[Mr. Invisible]

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Disingenuously incoherent. Gotta be nimble with my opposition! (Or at least not as tired.)

And Bare Naked Islam never claimed to be an impartial news portal, though it always links to a regular news article inside, for people to make up their own minds and provide proof of the latest in a long line of lunacies.

Ok, let me clear it up for you. I said that the city of Salt does not equal the entirety of France. To say that there are race riots all over France when in actuality it is only one city in France makes no sense at all and is a lie.

 

[Dutch]

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I dunno, guys. I seem to remember muslims rioting in europe not so long ago.



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Rioting in Paris after Muslim Youths Killed
James Joyner · Monday, November 26, 2007 · 20 Comments
Rioting has been ongoing in the Paris suburbs for hours after the deaths of two teenagers in what appears to be an accidental crash with a police vehicle.


Details are a bit sketchy in the early reports.

“Riot grips Paris suburb after youths killed in police crash,” AFP

French police were on alert Monday for a new flare-up of violence in the Paris suburbs, after the death of two teenagers in a crash with a police car sparked six hours of rioting by angry youths.

Gangs torched cars and looted shops and buildings in the north Paris suburb of Villiers-le-Bel, injuring 25 police officers, following the death of the youths aged 15 and 16, whose cross-country motorbike collided with a police car at around 5:00 pm (1600 GMT) on Sunday. Some 100 angry youths quickly thronged the crash site, in a flashpoint high-rise housing estate, demanding the “truth” about the accident, as rioting spread across the town.

In 2005, the accidental death of two youths allegedly fleeing police in another north Paris suburb sparked three weeks of riots in suburban estates across France, the country’s worst social unrest in decades.

Omar Sehhouli, the brother of one of Sunday’s victims, accused police of ramming the motorbike and of failing to assist the injured teens. “This is a failure to assist a person in danger… it is 100-percent a (police) blunder. They know it, and that’s why they did not stay at the scene,” he told France Info radio. “I know they will say they left because they were afraid of clashes or of being assaulted… but up until now we have had no apology from the police chief.”..........

 

[Republic_Of_Public]

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So to re-clear the uncleared clarity:

I said that the city of Salt does not equal the entirety of France.

Geographically, yes. Though the inclusion of that as a political statement does the opposite of clarify.

To say that there are race riots all over France when in actuality it is only one city in France makes no sense at all and is a lie.

I did not say there were race riots across the entirity of France, as you seem to imply. Though more than one city in France has indeed tasted Islamic wrath, making your statement a lie. Examples: Toulouse, Lille, Strasbourg, Marseille, and Lyon.


'Religion of Peace, my hairy bum!' (Part 86,294,857)

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REAPING WHAT'S SOWN:

And the Islamics have earned themselves a stinky reputation. I've heard an extremist sentiment a few times now that had only the Muslims been in the West 70 years back instead of the Jews, Hitler could have done Europe a favour when clearing out an entire religious minority.

Sick stuff parroted by cranks but not for nothing have frustrated and angry sentiments in general sprung up in regards to fundamentalist Islamism, and appeasement to a weaker form of it by Government.

(And a foul irony even here is that Hitler actually made common cause with Balkan Muslims during the war, inducting them into the SS and sending them off to hunt Jews!)

 

[Dutch]

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Yep, I seem to remember even more. Of course this goes all the way back to 2006, and it was over something very important.......cartoons. Still........

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STEVE INSKEEP, host:

This is MORNING EDITION from NPR News. I'm Steve Inskeep.

Muslims held violent protests over the weekend in cities across Europe and the Middle East. They said they were enraged over newspaper cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad. The worst protest was in Beirut, Lebanon, where an early morning protest march led to an attack on a building housing the Danish mission. The protesters also ransacked a Christian neighborhood. The Danish government has urged its citizens to leave Lebanon.

All this is over cartoons that first appeared in a Danish newspaper four months ago. NPR's Deborah Amos reports.

DEBORAH AMOS reporting:

(Soundbite of sirens)

The protesters arrived in the Lebanese capital by the busloads, armed with Islamic banners and their anger. The police turned out in force, but were overwhelmed by a surging crowd determined to destroy the symbol of Denmark in the capital. Smoke billowed from the 10-story building that houses the Danish mission, broadcast live on television.

But the violence escalated into dangerous domestic territory. Muslim rioters turned on a nearby Christian neighborhood, stoning a church and rampaging through the streets, smashing parked cars and shop windows. Telephone text messages flashed through Lebanon's Christian communities, prompting young men to drive down from the mountains to the capital, as the riots threatened to revive deep sectarian tensions in a country that fought a 15-year civil war.......

 

[Republic_Of_Public]

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If Governments were serious on having true peace and benignity from the Muslim Communities away from their homelands, they'd deport such toxic troublemakers and arbitrarily close down terror schools and extremist mosques as the rule.

I believe, even in a roundabout way, the violent supremacism encourages and emboldens minor Islamists who do nothing but say 'I want halal this' and 'gimme Sharia that'. Otherwise they'll be 'offended' if they can't have native culture subverted to theirs. I've listed dozens of examples, from the likes of the MCB to countless individuals.


I once remember seeing the news that cocky Muslim youths told Tony Blair to give them Ramadan as a national holiday to help buy their placidity over Iraq. And when the MCB were asked for advice in helping to draft anti-terror measures with tact, all they received was more bellyaching and demands for extra concessions.

It's time to STOP appeasing. We've given them enough. Despite the ghettos and huge cultural upturns, there are STILL swathes of 'ordinary' Islamic extremists pouring into their mosques to 'let off steam' as Laila said of hers. And I disagree that it's a 'good thing'. (Aren't there any redundant police microphones or tv cameras to use to help clean up the Muslim 'Community'?)

POLITICIANS: Stop the appeasement and say you'll show them the constituency office door instead, and you'll let pushy Islamists know there are other people to help and please besides them.

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The Golden Fob-Off, in case you thought neutered Muslims gave the raging firebrands short patience, as we're ordered to believe: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/87827-terror-uks-new-christmas-export-7.html#post1059166094

WTF? Kuffar troublemakers not Islamic being the reason for their criminality, says Liberal: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/87827-terror-uks-new-christmas-export-6.html#post1059165586

 

[Republic_Of_Public]

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APPENDIX:

The Government advisory MCB website, with the Orwellian tagline 'Working For The Common Good', contains self-indulgently arrogant gems like:

The government can play a part in the process of reform..

Oh good. I wondered when Islamists would let them play a part!

(Some whining pamphlet or other) notes the growing disaffection among Muslims and anger at their disenfranchisement over the Iraq war...

The constant demonisation of British Muslims - often from pro-Israeli quarters - is wholly unacceptable

The priorities facing the Muslim community are evident ... removal of the bars to public participation (?), and greater sensitivity to Muslim concerns with foreign policy issues such as Palestine and Iraq.

And just a quick look: MCB

We reiterate that averting a terrorist attack in which innocents would be put in jeopardy is an Islamic imperative, and it is the duty of all - Muslims included - to help the authorities prevent such an atrocity.

Pity the gravitas is reversed by using the issue to sit on peoples' heads until they submit to emotional blackmail.




And though I didn't spot the online version of the Muslim 'Give us Ramadan or we'll roar' debacle, I did see this:

Tariq Ramadan: Muslims need to stop behaving like victims - Commentators, Opinion - The Independent

Muslims have clear-cut alternatives faced with the new reality: they can adopt the attitude of the aggrieved victim or they can confront their difficulties. Nothing will change until they accept full responsibility for themselves, become constructively critical, and self-critical; until they respond to the creeping "evolution of fear" with a firmly grounded "revolution of trust".

There are strings attached of course, like dumping talk of Western values before other Muslims can integrate (?), but if Islamists need a dressing down it's best to come from their own kind.

 

[Djoop]

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Tariq Ramadan ... /s

In NL we had some muslim youths rioting, trying to copycat their 'brothers' in France. Fact is, compared to the average dutchmen, they seldomly protest, let stand riot. Not going to deny the problems we have with maroccan youths, but we also have quite a number of Indonesian muslims. Don't think they ever started a riot in the 40 years they've been here, eventhough they did face serious racism back in those days.

 

[Dutch]

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Tariq Ramadan ... /s

In NL we had some muslim youths rioting, trying to copycat their 'brothers' in France. Fact is, compared to the average dutchmen, they seldomly protest, let stand riot. Not going to deny the problems we have with maroccan youths, but we also have quite a number of Indonesian muslims. Don't think they ever started a riot in the 40 years they've been here, eventhough they did face serious racism back in those days.

I became aware of this quite some time ago from a former dutch poster on the old whistlestopper forum. Tell me about muslims enforcing sharia on the streets of european cities.
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By Ben Bower
Sharia law may still be an alien concept to some Westerners, but it’s staring gay Europeans right in the face – and pointing toward a chilling future for all free people. Pim Fortuyn saw all this coming years ago; most of today’s European leaders still refuse to see it even though it’s right before their eyes.

Not very long ago, Oslo was an icy Shangri-la of Scandinavian self-discipline, governability, and respect for the law. But in recent years, there have been grim changes, including a rise in gay-bashings. The summer of 2006 saw an unprecedented wave of them. The culprits, very disproportionately, are young Muslim men.

It’s not just Oslo, of course. The problem afflicts most of Western Europe. And anecdotal evidence suggests that such crimes are dramatically underreported. My own partner chose not to report his assault. I urged him to, but he protested that it wouldn’t make any difference. He was probably right.

The reason for the rise in gay bashings in Europe is clear – and it’s the same reason for the rise in rape. As the number of Muslims in Europe grows, and as the proportion of those Muslims who were born and bred in Europe also grows, many Muslim men are more inclined to see Europe as a part of the umma (or Muslim world), to believe that they have the right and duty to enforce sharia law in the cities where they live, and to recognize that any aggression on their part will likely go unpunished. Such men need not be actively religious in order to feel that they have carte blanche to assault openly gay men and non-submissive women, whose freedom to live their lives as they wish is among the most conspicuous symbols of the West’s defiance of holy law........